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PSA: Nobody cares that you "climbed Everest" anymore

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Case in point this whole climbed Everest thing is over the top:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mmit-Mount-Everest-died-stuck-bottleneck.html

The photo, taken by Ralf Dujmovits for Outside Magazine, is a stark portrait of just how crowded the world's highest peak has become -- loaded with mostly amateur climbers paying sherpas to do much of the hard work for them.
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I always thought it was bullsh*t paying these people to carry all your crap and then you just scale the last little bit and say you climbed it. So these assholes are paying $75,000 so that they can then come back and tell co-workers they climbed Everest.
 
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there was a thread a few days earlier regarding how some people died during their descent from Mount Everest. And that photograph definitely seems like an avalanche in the waiting.
 
I don't think it's a walk in the park but clearly it's not the immense physical challenge it used to be. Just the fact that there are so many people that they are in each other's way tells you it's no longer a superhuman achievement.
 
K2, Nanga Parbat & Annapurna 1 are reportedly much tougher mountains to climb than Everest.
 
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If 150 people are doing it at a time, then its no longer an impressive feat, its now just a tourist trip.

Need to install an oxygen bar up there. Charge like 10 grand a bottle.
 
I would give a shit if it was no oxygen or carry your own tank.

But yeah, now its just become a massive tourist attraction. The summit is also really littered with all those discarded oxygen tanks
 
I would still be impressed. But I'd also be cynical, I mean you had to drop $60,000 or so to do it. I know some climbers who have no aspirations whatsoever to climb Everest, it is just too much money and hassle when there are plenty of other 8k peaks to choose from.
 
The dead climbers were reportedly stopped for nearly three hours and ran out of oxygen? or they just could not handle the lack of oxygen because the tour guides should of had enough oxygen right? Did the tour guides take off with part of the group to get to the top and leave the rest to just wait?

Plus that pic is insane. To even let that many people try and climb it like that is stupid. It is all about greed.
 
if those people really pay $70k each to climb, i really need to switch professions and become an everest tour guide.
 
It's obvious that nobody in this thread has actually done any alpine climbing. I have. I'll agree that the Sherpa support clearly makes Everest easier than it once was, but that doesn't mean that it's anywhere near easy.
 
I dont care if 15 or 150 people attempt to climb everest at once. It is still a great physical challenge which requires accustoming your body to the elements. Death is a very real threat up there and not everyone can complete a climb like this.
 
NuclearNed said:
It's obvious that nobody in this thread has actually done any alpine climbing. I have. I'll agree that the Sherpa support clearly makes Everest easier than it once was, but that doesn't mean that it's anywhere near easy.
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NetWareHead said:
I dont care if 15 or 150 people attempt to climb everest at once. It is still a great physical challenge which requires accustoming your body to the elements. Death is a very real threat up there and not everyone can complete a climb like this.
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These two posters are smart, the rest of you aren't.

Tourist attraction? Oxygen bar? Come on. No - its not as hard as it used to be, yes, its not the same if you have support of experienced guides, but lets be serious - its still a very difficult and dangerous physical feat that very few posters on this forum could accomplish.
 
NuclearNed said:
It's obvious that nobody in this thread has actually done any alpine climbing. I have. I'll agree that the Sherpa support clearly makes Everest easier than it once was, but that doesn't mean that it's anywhere near easy.
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I've never done any, don't intend to.

But even I know that it's sheer idiocy to show up in Nepal and expect to make it safely up and back down without proper acclimation to high altitude and the oxygen deprivation that goes along with it.

These climbers should be intelligent enough to spend a few weeks hiking around Nepal, and getting their bodies used to the change in air pressure. Then they're better off when they do climb, and less dangerous to their guides and other climbers. That's what separates the serious athletes from the tourists.

This poor dead woman from Canada had no business on that mountain, endangering her life or anyone else's. She was completely unprepared for the conditions there, and she died because of that failure alone.
 
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But even I know that it's sheer idiocy to show up in Nepal and expect to make it safely up and back down without proper acclimation to high altitude and the oxygen deprivation that goes along with it.
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What makes you think that they didn't go through acclimation? They'd have never made it to the top without it.

sixone said:
This poor dead woman from Canada had no business on that mountain, endangering her life or anyone else's. She was completely unprepared for the conditions there, and she died because of that failure alone.
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Again, how do you know?

Are you aware that there is no amount of acclimation that can allow someone to survive at the top of Everest for more than a few hours? They call it the "Death Zone" for a reason.

The point of the story is that the commercialization is causing some people to not take the danger as seriously as they should, but that's no reason to go overboard.
 
sixone said:
These climbers should be intelligent enough to spend a few weeks hiking around Nepal, and getting their bodies used to the change in air pressure. Then they're better off when they do climb, and less dangerous to their guides and other climbers. That's what separates the serious athletes from the tourists.
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They acclimate on Everest for almost a month before making a summit push. They climb from base camp to camp II and back multiple times, base camp to camp III and back, etc, plus many other trips on the mountain on the "off" days.
 
NetWareHead said:
I dont care if 15 or 150 people attempt to climb everest at once. It is still a great physical challenge which requires accustoming your body to the elements. Death is a very real threat up there and not everyone can complete a climb like this.
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Yep, and now there are 4 less of them.
 
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