PSA: cook your food, several people sick in canada

[Texashiker]

People dont know that cooking their meat kills bacteria?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/...r-eating-contaminated-steaks/?test=latestnews

Several people became ill after eating steaks that may contain E. coli bacteria sold at a store in Edmonton, Alberta, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency said.

I dont know how many times I have seen people order steaks or burgers with blood oozing out of the meat.

 

[hal2kilo]

People dont know that cooking their meat kills bacteria?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/...r-eating-contaminated-steaks/?test=latestnews



I dont know how many times I have seen people order steaks or burgers with blood oozing out of the meat.

Steaks yes, burgers no.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Cooking causes cancer. Raw meat only plskthxs.

 

[bononos]

Steaks yes, burgers no.

Its safer to eat steaks raw/rare and to cook burgers thoroughly.

 

[CycloWizard]

Cooking a steak to rare or even medium rare will not kill bacteria at the center. If you have quality meat, it shouldn't be an issue. The problem is low quality meat that doesn't get cooked thoroughly.

 

[Jaskalas]

Steaks are usually safe. Most everyone eats them below other food safety standards.

 

[bononos]

Its the center portion that is not smashed/cut up which is actually safer against foreign pathogens.

 

[Genx87]

Steaks dont usually contain much bateria in the center. Bacteria is introduced on the surface. Hamburger needs to be cooked through since the surface is mashed into the middle.

 

[Texashiker]

Its the center portion that is not smashed/cut up which is actually safer against foreign pathogens.

Steaks dont usually contain much bateria in the center.

And that is why we have outbreaks of diseases like E. Coli.

If you have quality meat, it shouldn't be an issue.

What does "quality meat" have to do with the overall health of the animal?

Personally, I treat "all" meat as it were contaminated - beef, chicken, pork, deer, squirrel, rabbit,,, there is no meat safe to eat that is not cooked all the way through.

 

[Genx87]

And that is why we have outbreaks of diseases like E. Coli.

No it isnt. How many people are infected with E. Coli from rare to medium rare steak? Bacteria resides on the outside of beef. Cooking the outside properly will kill most bacteria. Chickena and Pork need to be cooked through due to bacteria and parasites living within the meat, not on the surface. The same with ground beef. The bacteria is mixed into the middle of the meat and thus has to be cooked through.

 

[Texashiker]

No it isnt. How many people are infected with E. Coli from rare to medium rare steak?

"Assuming" meat is safe to eat is a contributor to outbreaks.

 

[CycloWizard]

What does "quality meat" have to do with the overall health of the animal?

It has everything to do with the overall health of the animal. Stop asserting your ignorance as fact and educate yourself.

Personally, I treat "all" meat as it were contaminated - beef, chicken, pork, deer, squirrel, rabbit,,, there is no meat safe to eat that is not cooked all the way through.

There is plenty of safe meat that isn't cooked all the way through. You've ruined hundreds of pounds of quality meat through your own ignorance. I would not let you in my kitchen and certainly not anywhere near my grill.

 

[Genx87]

"Assuming" meat is safe to eat is a contributor to outbreaks.

Sure, eating anything can get one sick. I had a muffing last week that had me sitting on the toilet most of the morning. But so what? I will ask again. How many people are infected with E.Coli from eating rare to medium rare steak? You cant get around how bacteria gets into beef.

 

[Texashiker]

It has everything to do with the overall health of the animal. Stop asserting your ignorance as fact and educate yourself.

Ignorance? That is laughable. I stay educated about various diseases that everything from livestock to wild animals can carry. I also subscribe to various public health newsletters about disease outbreaks.

So your saying an animal that might seem healthy can not have some kind of underlying health condition?

Then explain Bovine Spongiform.

If people would cook their meat all the way through, a lot of these outbreaks would be prevented.

The public is under the illusion that our beef is safe to eat, and that is a flawed mindset.

 

[kami333]

I'd rather stay hungry than eat a fully cooked (well-done) steak.

I've had overcooked meat in Russia and don't see why anyone would eat it voluntarily, I'll take the overcooked veggies instead.

 

[CycloWizard]

Ignorance? That is laughable. I stay educated about various diseases that everything from livestock to wild animals can carry. I also subscribe to various public health newsletters about disease outbreaks.

So your saying an animal that might seem healthy can not have some kind of underlying health condition?

Then explain Bovine Spongiform.

If people would cook their meat all the way through, a lot of these outbreaks would be prevented.

The public is under the illusion that our beef is safe to eat, and that is a flawed mindset.

You are the ignorant public that understands nothing but thinks he's gleaned some insightful bit from a newsletter that puts him above real experts. I've learned that ignorant know-it-alls are the worst kind because they cannot be educated since they already believe they know everything despite knowing nothing. Proceed on your path to overcooked meat.

 

[kami333]

Ignorance? That is laughable. I stay educated about various diseases that everything from livestock to wild animals can carry. I also subscribe to various public health newsletters about disease outbreaks.

So your saying an animal that might seem healthy can not have some kind of underlying health condition?

Then explain Bovine Spongiform.

If people would cook their meat all the way through, a lot of these outbreaks would be prevented.

The public is under the illusion that our beef is safe to eat, and that is a flawed mindset.

I thought cooking didn't affect prions? You basically have to incinerate it to affect it.

 

[PowerYoga]

A little bit of knowledge is worse than no knowledge at all.

 

[blankslate]

I'd say it's just as important to wash your hands before and during food preparation and to cut vegetables on a separate cutting board than the one the meat is prepared on.

The washing of hands thing is a reason why I'm generally sketchy about eating out.

 

[K1052]

Burgers should be cooked all the way through IMO. I see way too many underdone burgers out there. It is possible to cook them fully and not dry them out if done properly.

Steaks however should never be cooked beyond medium or medium-rare. I saw someone order a $50 dry aged bone in ribeye a few weeks ago and proceed to request that it be cooked well done. D:

 

[Texashiker]

You are the ignorant public that understands nothing but thinks he's gleaned some insightful bit from a newsletter that puts him above real experts.

I do not claim to be an expert.

You on the other hand are arrogant. All you are trying to do is make excuses for bad habits.

Steaks however should never be cooked beyond medium or medium-rare. I saw someone order a $50 dry aged bone in ribeye a few weeks ago and proceed to request that it be cooked well done. D:

The center should reach at least 150 degrees for at least 5 minutes.

But even then, I would probably cook it all the way through.

I thought cooking didn't affect prions? You basically have to incinerate it to affect it.

You missed the point of the question, is it not possible for a cow that appears to be well, to be in fact sick?

 

[CycloWizard]

I do not claim to be an expert.

You on the other hand are arrogant. All you are trying to do is make excuses for bad habits.

Is it arrogance to assert that facts are facts? If so, I am truly an arrogant SOB. In my opinion, arrogance is asserting that malformed opinions such as yours as truth. Of course it's possible that bacteria is in the very center of a piece of quality beef I eat for dinner tonight. It's also possible that an asteroid will strike your house tonight while you sleep. The probabilities are approximately equal.

 

[Texashiker]

Is it arrogance to assert that facts are facts? If so, I am truly an arrogant SOB. In my opinion, arrogance is asserting that malformed opinions such as yours as truth.

How is it malformed that cooking meat all the way through will help reduce the risk of food-borne diseases?

Fact, Cooking meat all the way through kills any pathogens in the meat.

Fact, even though the risk is small, cattle can carry pathogens.

How are those malformed ideas?

 

[CycloWizard]

How is it malformed that cooking meat all the way through will help reduce the risk of food-borne diseases?

Fact, Cooking meat all the way through kills any pathogens in the meat.

Fact, even though the risk is small, cattle can carry pathogens.

How are those malformed ideas?

I said exactly why in the remainder of my post which you neglected to quote:

Of course it's possible that bacteria is in the very center of a piece of quality beef I eat for dinner tonight. It's also possible that an asteroid will strike your house tonight while you sleep. The probabilities are approximately equal.

 

[Texashiker]

I said exactly why in the remainder of my post which you neglected to quote:

Of course it's possible that bacteria is in the very center of a piece of quality beef I eat for dinner tonight. It's also possible that an asteroid will strike your house tonight while you sleep. The probabilities are approximately equal.

Then what is your problem?

You get all pissed off when I say to cook meat, then you say there is a chance the meat can carry pathogens.

Are you bipolar or something?