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PSA: cook your food, several people sick in canada

Cooking a steak to rare or even medium rare will not kill bacteria at the center. If you have quality meat, it shouldn't be an issue. The problem is low quality meat that doesn't get cooked thoroughly.
 
Steaks dont usually contain much bateria in the center. Bacteria is introduced on the surface. Hamburger needs to be cooked through since the surface is mashed into the middle.
 
bononos said:
Its the center portion that is not smashed/cut up which is actually safer against foreign pathogens.
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Genx87 said:
Steaks dont usually contain much bateria in the center.
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And that is why we have outbreaks of diseases like E. Coli.


CycloWizard said:
If you have quality meat, it shouldn't be an issue.
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What does "quality meat" have to do with the overall health of the animal?

Personally, I treat "all" meat as it were contaminated - beef, chicken, pork, deer, squirrel, rabbit,,, there is no meat safe to eat that is not cooked all the way through.
 
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Texashiker said:
And that is why we have outbreaks of diseases like E. Coli.
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No it isnt. How many people are infected with E. Coli from rare to medium rare steak? Bacteria resides on the outside of beef. Cooking the outside properly will kill most bacteria. Chickena and Pork need to be cooked through due to bacteria and parasites living within the meat, not on the surface. The same with ground beef. The bacteria is mixed into the middle of the meat and thus has to be cooked through.
 
Texashiker said:
What does "quality meat" have to do with the overall health of the animal?
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It has everything to do with the overall health of the animal. Stop asserting your ignorance as fact and educate yourself.
Personally, I treat "all" meat as it were contaminated - beef, chicken, pork, deer, squirrel, rabbit,,, there is no meat safe to eat that is not cooked all the way through.
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There is plenty of safe meat that isn't cooked all the way through. You've ruined hundreds of pounds of quality meat through your own ignorance. I would not let you in my kitchen and certainly not anywhere near my grill.
 
Texashiker said:
"Assuming" meat is safe to eat is a contributor to outbreaks.
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Sure, eating anything can get one sick. I had a muffing last week that had me sitting on the toilet most of the morning. But so what? I will ask again. How many people are infected with E.Coli from eating rare to medium rare steak? You cant get around how bacteria gets into beef.
 
CycloWizard said:
It has everything to do with the overall health of the animal. Stop asserting your ignorance as fact and educate yourself.
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Ignorance? That is laughable. I stay educated about various diseases that everything from livestock to wild animals can carry. I also subscribe to various public health newsletters about disease outbreaks.

So your saying an animal that might seem healthy can not have some kind of underlying health condition?

Then explain Bovine Spongiform.

If people would cook their meat all the way through, a lot of these outbreaks would be prevented.

The public is under the illusion that our beef is safe to eat, and that is a flawed mindset.
 
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I'd rather stay hungry than eat a fully cooked (well-done) steak.

I've had overcooked meat in Russia and don't see why anyone would eat it voluntarily, I'll take the overcooked veggies instead.
 
Texashiker said:
Ignorance? That is laughable. I stay educated about various diseases that everything from livestock to wild animals can carry. I also subscribe to various public health newsletters about disease outbreaks.

So your saying an animal that might seem healthy can not have some kind of underlying health condition?

Then explain Bovine Spongiform.

If people would cook their meat all the way through, a lot of these outbreaks would be prevented.

The public is under the illusion that our beef is safe to eat, and that is a flawed mindset.
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You are the ignorant public that understands nothing but thinks he's gleaned some insightful bit from a newsletter that puts him above real experts. I've learned that ignorant know-it-alls are the worst kind because they cannot be educated since they already believe they know everything despite knowing nothing. Proceed on your path to overcooked meat.
 
Texashiker said:
Ignorance? That is laughable. I stay educated about various diseases that everything from livestock to wild animals can carry. I also subscribe to various public health newsletters about disease outbreaks.

So your saying an animal that might seem healthy can not have some kind of underlying health condition?

Then explain Bovine Spongiform.

If people would cook their meat all the way through, a lot of these outbreaks would be prevented.

The public is under the illusion that our beef is safe to eat, and that is a flawed mindset.
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I thought cooking didn't affect prions? You basically have to incinerate it to affect it.
 
I'd say it's just as important to wash your hands before and during food preparation and to cut vegetables on a separate cutting board than the one the meat is prepared on.

The washing of hands thing is a reason why I'm generally sketchy about eating out.
 
Burgers should be cooked all the way through IMO. I see way too many underdone burgers out there. It is possible to cook them fully and not dry them out if done properly.

Steaks however should never be cooked beyond medium or medium-rare. I saw someone order a $50 dry aged bone in ribeye a few weeks ago and proceed to request that it be cooked well done. D:
 
CycloWizard said:
You are the ignorant public that understands nothing but thinks he's gleaned some insightful bit from a newsletter that puts him above real experts.
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I do not claim to be an expert.

You on the other hand are arrogant. All you are trying to do is make excuses for bad habits.


K1052 said:
Steaks however should never be cooked beyond medium or medium-rare. I saw someone order a $50 dry aged bone in ribeye a few weeks ago and proceed to request that it be cooked well done. D:
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The center should reach at least 150 degrees for at least 5 minutes.

But even then, I would probably cook it all the way through.


kami333 said:
I thought cooking didn't affect prions? You basically have to incinerate it to affect it.
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You missed the point of the question, is it not possible for a cow that appears to be well, to be in fact sick?
 
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Texashiker said:
I do not claim to be an expert.

You on the other hand are arrogant. All you are trying to do is make excuses for bad habits.
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Is it arrogance to assert that facts are facts? If so, I am truly an arrogant SOB. In my opinion, arrogance is asserting that malformed opinions such as yours as truth. Of course it's possible that bacteria is in the very center of a piece of quality beef I eat for dinner tonight. It's also possible that an asteroid will strike your house tonight while you sleep. The probabilities are approximately equal.
 
CycloWizard said:
Is it arrogance to assert that facts are facts? If so, I am truly an arrogant SOB. In my opinion, arrogance is asserting that malformed opinions such as yours as truth.
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How is it malformed that cooking meat all the way through will help reduce the risk of food-borne diseases?

Fact, Cooking meat all the way through kills any pathogens in the meat.

Fact, even though the risk is small, cattle can carry pathogens.

How are those malformed ideas?
 
Texashiker said:
How is it malformed that cooking meat all the way through will help reduce the risk of food-borne diseases?

Fact, Cooking meat all the way through kills any pathogens in the meat.

Fact, even though the risk is small, cattle can carry pathogens.

How are those malformed ideas?
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I said exactly why in the remainder of my post which you neglected to quote:
Of course it's possible that bacteria is in the very center of a piece of quality beef I eat for dinner tonight. It's also possible that an asteroid will strike your house tonight while you sleep. The probabilities are approximately equal.
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CycloWizard said:
I said exactly why in the remainder of my post which you neglected to quote:

Of course it's possible that bacteria is in the very center of a piece of quality beef I eat for dinner tonight. It's also possible that an asteroid will strike your house tonight while you sleep. The probabilities are approximately equal.
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Then what is your problem?

You get all pissed off when I say to cook meat, then you say there is a chance the meat can carry pathogens.

Are you bipolar or something?
 
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