PSA - Comcast users - Data Cap

[ch33zw1z]

I'm doing a little better than you.

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Perspective, I'm doing better than you

 

[Aikouka]

Pretty much this. I am not against high usage people paying a little more but that should come with better low options, like a $20 500mb rate.

Why? What reason is there to agree other than "well, that doesn't sound that unfair..."? While a cap-less model is effectively treated like a buffet (i.e. heavier eaters are subsidized by those that eat less), there is a staunch difference... data isn't a limited resource like food. The limitation is in the transport rather than the resource itself, but if it was an issue with congestion, that's where actual mitigations would come into play such as rate reductions for high data users (like you see on some mobile plans).

 

[Viper1j]

Pretty much this. I am not against high usage people paying a little more but that should come with better low options, like a $20 500mb rate. Also they should auto step you to the next plan for example someone signs for $20 minimum usage rate and greatly exceeds it. They shouldn’t get billed $100 when the next appropriate tier for them is $50.
Additional data shouldn’t be pay per use, it should be a big bucket at a reasonable cost like above and the customer should get texts, emails and even pop up alerts when they are approaching a data cap.
Maybe it does work that way because I have never had a data cap other than a cap on my wireless hotspot.

What part of "Unlimited" is confusing to you? Every ISP in the country got to where they are today, by selling "unlimited Internet".

Now they want to use different dictionaries, but my dictionary still says that unlimited = NO LIMITS.

The assholes can't change the rules, just because people accepted their offer and gave them a lot of money.

 

[ecogen]

Data caps lol.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Why? What reason is there to agree other than "well, that doesn't sound that unfair..."? While a cap-less model is effectively treated like a buffet (i.e. heavier eaters are subsidized by those that eat less), there is a staunch difference... data isn't a limited resource like food. The limitation is in the transport rather than the resource itself, but if it was an issue with congestion, that's where actual mitigations would come into play such as rate reductions for high data users (like you see on some mobile plans).

Because that data has more value to the heavy user

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What part of "Unlimited" is confusing to you? Every ISP in the country got to where they are today, by selling "unlimited Internet".

Now they want to use different dictionaries, but my dictionary still says that unlimited = NO LIMITS.

The assholes can't change the rules, just because people accepted their offer and gave them a lot of money.

I don’t understand how previous unlimited plans relate to current offerings.
Also as before I am more than confident all those original TOS say subject to change.
Also those original 1mb connections ultimately got upgraded to 2-5-10-25 and so on. Basically good stay with your 2mb down 100kb up unlimited plan. Have a good time.

 

[MtnMan]

Of it ends up with lower costs for them and higher costs for the data usage...

Sounds similar to our tax structure - I'm always okay with THEM paying more.

Now I understand your love and admiration for Trump. You're just completely stupid.

 

[Svnla]

Wow, some of you are heavy users. The most I ever used was about 500 Gb/month within the last 12 months and I almost always stay below the 250 Gb/month cap. No cap here is 400 Mb/down and 1 Gb/down for $10 and $20 per month extra.

 

[Aikouka]

Because that data has more value to the heavy user

I'm not sure what this is supposed to suggest. I would suspect that the functionality of the service has the same value to both types, but one uses it more. It's like turning the faucet and expecting water to come out; one person may use more than the other, but the expectation is the same. ...just keep in mind that the actual item being transferred is a finite resource (water) vs. a generated resource (data).

 

[ch33zw1z]

Wow, some of you are heavy users. The most I ever used was about 500 Gb/month within the last 12 months and I almost always stay below the 250 Gb/month cap. No cap here is 400 Mb/down and 1 Gb/down for $10 and $20 per month extra.

If you have multiple people using it, and they're techie type people, it's easy to use a lot.

 

[MtnMan]

The other shoe...

Comcast raising TV and Internet prices, including a big hike to hidden fees

Internet prices to rise $3 a month; “Broadcast TV” hidden fee going up $4.50.

arstechnica.com

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm not sure what this is supposed to suggest. I would suspect that the functionality of the service has the same value to both types, but one uses it more. It's like turning the faucet and expecting water to come out; one person may use more than the other, but the expectation is the same. ...just keep in mind that the actual item being transferred is a finite resource (water) vs. a generated resource (data).

Market based pricing. The high user has more value to the data than the low user, the high user is more willing to pay for it. Hence better networks to some extent.
Please don’t confuse what I am saying. Some extra charge is fine to the Uber too end. The main problem is there isn’t enough viable choices and broadband companies have shitty billing practices which would be solved by having more competition.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The other shoe...

Comcast raising TV and Internet prices, including a big hike to hidden fees

Internet prices to rise $3 a month; “Broadcast TV” hidden fee going up $4.50.

arstechnica.com

and this is a great example of shitty billing practices. Stupid add on fees were the main reason I went to streaming. My fios bill had something like $18 per month in local broadcast fees, sports fees, regulatory fees, then $12 more for the dumb box to view it. I probably spent over $1k in box rental fees over a few years. Absolutely nuts.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The other shoe...

Comcast raising TV and Internet prices, including a big hike to hidden fees

Internet prices to rise $3 a month; “Broadcast TV” hidden fee going up $4.50.

arstechnica.com

Brought to you by this guy, because this is how R's view the FCC

 

[MtnMan]

My Synology router tracks the amount of data transferred in total and per device. I have Spectrum internet 200/10 which tests at 215/15.

We have cut the cord, and stream a lot of TV, including 4K. Averaging 650 - 700M per month, and about 70% of that traffic is download to the 4K TV.

 

[MtnMan]

and this is a great example of shitty billing practices. Stupid add on fees were the main reason I went to streaming. My fios bill had something like $18 per month in local broadcast fees, sports fees, regulatory fees, then $12 more for the dumb box to view it. I probably spent over $1k in box rental fees over a few years. Absolutely nuts.

Industry standard practice. I dropped Dish for the same rational. When I called to cancel they of course tried to talk me into staying. "We can provide just your local channels for only $12/m" BS. With all the fees it would have been about $55/m.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

I am admitting to not reading the 160-something posts that followed the original posting but I wanted to remind folks that there is nothing that is preventing you from subscribing to a business class of Comcast cable modem service. For the same $/month you might get a slower connection (still robust, though) but that is without data caps. I serious was about to do this back in 2016-17 but then my ILEC upgraded my area with fiber and I went with AT&T instead.

 

[snoopy7548]

I am admitting to not reading the 160-something posts that followed the original posting but I wanted to remind folks that there is nothing that is preventing you from subscribing to a business class of Comcast cable modem service. For the same $/month you might get a slower connection (still robust, though) but that is without data caps. I serious was about to do this back in 2016-17 but then my ILEC upgraded my area with fiber and I went with AT&T instead.

In my area, the cost for business is $8 cheaper for the same plan (100/15Mbps): $70 vs. $78, with a two-year contract. After the two years, the price for business increases to $100. I'd basically be paying the "unlimited" fee of $25 extra per month. I wonder if they will allow me to switch between business and residential, and still get the promos...

 

[Svnla]

Get ready to pay more along with the cap, Comcast customers. Merry Christmas with a lot of love from Comcast.

Comcast raising TV and Internet prices, including a big hike to hidden fees | Ars Technica

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[ch33zw1z]

Get ready to pay more along with the cap, Comcast customers. Merry Christmas with a lot of love from Comcast.

Comcast raising TV and Internet prices, including a big hike to hidden fees | Ars Technica

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I think this is fantastic and exactly what Americans vote for.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

If binding arbitration is part of the contract, and THEY breached their own contract, I'm thinking they can't force it into binding arbitration.

By their own actions they have voided the contract.

Lol this guy.... Christ you're funny if you think a major giant cable company that owns mass media and ISP all around is less knowledgeable about legal docs than you.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Why? What reason is there to agree other than "well, that doesn't sound that unfair..."? While a cap-less model is effectively treated like a buffet (i.e. heavier eaters are subsidized by those that eat less), there is a staunch difference... data isn't a limited resource like food. The limitation is in the transport rather than the resource itself, but if it was an issue with congestion, that's where actual mitigations would come into play such as rate reductions for high data users (like you see on some mobile plans).

What it translates to is really "I'm not a part of the group that would pay extra so it doesn't bother me"

It's the same class of fucking morons that are for tax increases as long as it's not their income bracket.

 

[Viper1j]

Lol this guy.... Christ you're funny if you think a major giant cable company that owns mass media and ISP all around is less knowledgeable about legal docs than you.

I never said that Sparky.

I only pointed out that words mean things.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I never said that Sparky.

I only pointed out that words mean things.

Do you see this?

This, is internet tough guy 101. You will get raked over the coals.

If binding arbitration is part of the contract, and THEY breached their own contract, I'm thinking they can't force it into binding arbitration.

By their own actions they have voided the contract.

If they try to impose a data cap on me, I'll sue them into oblivion.

 

[LikeLinus]

Best thing I did was leave Comcast for ATT. Once fiber hit our neighborhood, I was probably the first one to sign up, lol. We've had it since last April and it's been solid. No caps and the speeds are great. Also, we initially signed up at $70 a month intro that raised to $99 after a year. They lowered my bill to $59 a month ago (permanently, no contract or time period) . $59 for gigafiber w/ no cap works for me!