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PSA: Bear Grylls is harder than Les Stroud

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Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different variety
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.
building a raft or shelter =/= hard ;)

I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.
I somewhat disagree with your details, but if you're referring to straight survival then yes, Les is a better guide.
 

FoBoT

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i saw that show on TV
he was scared, you could tell he wasn't sure it was a good idea to try it

not to take anything away from the feat
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different variety
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.
building a raft or shelter =/= hard ;)

I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different variety
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.
building a raft or shelter =/= hard ;)

I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.
eh. The alternative argument is taht since bear DOES have all those things, he has the time to do all the ridiculous shit that he does. I mean when you factor in that Les DOES have to come back to pick up all his shit, that cuts out like half the day.

Besides, taking OUT the show, bear flew up 30k feet, with a freaking parachute thing and a giant motor/propeller strapped to his back. -

bear > les ;)
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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I don't understand why people insist on comparing these two guys. One of them is a survivalist. The other is a guy who just finds ridiculously dangerous / cool things to do and films himself doing them.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I don't understand why people insist on comparing these two guys. One of them is a survivalist. The other is a guy who just finds ridiculously dangerous / cool things to do and films himself doing them.
Because it's more fun to debate vs "will the plane fly?"
 
Aug 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different variety
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.
building a raft or shelter =/= hard ;)

I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.
When I see survivor man squeeze water out of elephant shit, or scoop out the contents of a dead camels stomach and drink it then I'll say he is harder than Bear.
 

zig3695

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les stroud is a boarderline pussy. bear grylls RULES! british special forces! muhahaha
 

zig3695

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Originally posted by: umbrella39


Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.
exactly my point. les is an idiot, the show would be 10x better if he could just do the show without complainin about the stupid cameras the whole time

and les is reality until he fails every other show and has to call for help early.
 
Nov 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different variety
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.
building a raft or shelter =/= hard ;)

I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.
well that's just stupid. The production is just annoying and bad and it's a waste of time for Les Stroud if only to prove a point that he's alone. I honestly couldn't give a shit.
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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meh. If he was hard he would have landed/dropped on the top and walked back down.
 

Farang

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He also did Foreign Legion bootcamp and it didn't seem to phase him at all, he had to motivate all of these other ex-Marine guys to not quit. His show isn't as good though because it is fake, with planted snakes and insects and whatnot.
 

randay

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fake? theres nothing fake about squeezing water out of elephant poop. if i were ever stuck on a deserted island with bear, theres no doubt in my mind that he would kill me, gut me, fill his cantina with my blood, and then swim back to civilization.
 

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