PS3 vs. XBox 360

[biggestmuff]

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

Uh...LOL, wut?

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

I don't have a PS3, but what can it do media-wise that a 360 can't either natively or via that TVersity software or whatever?
I'd be more than willing to make shelf space for a PS3 and MLB 09 if it did something with my media that my 360 couldn't.

Blu-Ray. And it's somewhat more quiet. The menu system is also arguably a bit better.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

Uh...LOL, wut?

It's advertised as a game console but it's really meant to be at the center of your "digital home". That is definitely the case for me. Even though I have a PS2 and an excellent Toshiba DVD/VCR, the PS3 does it all. I even converted my old, hard to find VCR tapes to mpeg so that I can stream it. I occasionally play games as well.

Granted, I have a Nintendo Wii but it's white and sits at the bottom of the shelf, where it gathers dust. Every now and then we may play it but the PS3 does it all.

 

[RedRooster]

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

I don't have a PS3, but what can it do media-wise that a 360 can't either natively or via that TVersity software or whatever?
I'd be more than willing to make shelf space for a PS3 and MLB 09 if it did something with my media that my 360 couldn't.

Blu-Ray. And it's somewhat more quiet. The menu system is also arguably a bit better.

Oh, I thought you meant streaming different media and whatnot. I'm not concerned with that other stuff, until the RCMP bust down my door for having mkvs.

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

I don't have a PS3, but what can it do media-wise that a 360 can't either natively or via that TVersity software or whatever?
I'd be more than willing to make shelf space for a PS3 and MLB 09 if it did something with my media that my 360 couldn't.

Blu-Ray. And it's somewhat more quiet. The menu system is also arguably a bit better.

Oh, I thought you meant streaming different media and whatnot. I'm not concerned with that other stuff, until the RCMP bust down my door for having mkvs.

You stream MKVs to your 360? What do you use? I've been converting mine to mp4. If it needs on-the-fly transcoding then I'll stick with mp4 - I hate the slow fast-forwarding.

 

[erwos]

Streaming media-wise, the main differences are that:
1. PS3 can play MPEG-4(H.264+AAC-5.1)
2. 360 can play ASF(WMV+WMA-5.1)

I tend to think the PS3 is the slightly better streamer because of the AAC-5.1 support, but I wind up streaming everything to my 360 anyways because of my Zune Pass.

 

[Golgatha]

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

I don't have a PS3, but what can it do media-wise that a 360 can't either natively or via that TVersity software or whatever?
I'd be more than willing to make shelf space for a PS3 and MLB 09 if it did something with my media that my 360 couldn't.

Blu-Ray. And it's somewhat more quiet. The menu system is also arguably a bit better.

I'll argue that the menu system on the PS3 is worlds better than the XBox 360. The 360's only saving grace is the dashboard applet when playing games. For finding, sorting, and playing back files though, the PS3 rules IMHO.

 

[arod]

Originally posted by: erwos
Streaming media-wise, the main differences are that:
1. PS3 can play MPEG-4(H.264+AAC-5.1)
2. 360 can play ASF(WMV+WMA-5.1)

I tend to think the PS3 is the slightly better streamer because of the AAC-5.1 support, but I wind up streaming everything to my 360 anyways because of my Zune Pass.

Windows 7 media center trumps everything the ps3 has over the 360 in the media playback arena.... media center can play back virutally every file format out there (including native mkv support with the divx tech preview). and has an interface that blows everything away.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: erwos
Streaming media-wise, the main differences are that:
1. PS3 can play MPEG-4(H.264+AAC-5.1)
2. 360 can play ASF(WMV+WMA-5.1)

I tend to think the PS3 is the slightly better streamer because of the AAC-5.1 support, but I wind up streaming everything to my 360 anyways because of my Zune Pass.

PS3 can certainly stream WMV. I use WMM to make 1080P home videos and it plays back nicely on my PS3.

 

[RedRooster]

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: oznerol

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Dari
People keep talking games as if it's the most important factor. In these days, when the concole sits at the center of your living room and is supposed to do everything except literally give you a blowjob (the streaming porn is a close replacement), it's hard to focus on just one feature. The PS3 does all that. It even cures cancer.

Oh, and it's also reliable.

I don't have a PS3, but what can it do media-wise that a 360 can't either natively or via that TVersity software or whatever?
I'd be more than willing to make shelf space for a PS3 and MLB 09 if it did something with my media that my 360 couldn't.

Blu-Ray. And it's somewhat more quiet. The menu system is also arguably a bit better.

Oh, I thought you meant streaming different media and whatnot. I'm not concerned with that other stuff, until the RCMP bust down my door for having mkvs.

You stream MKVs to your 360? What do you use? I've been converting mine to mp4. If it needs on-the-fly transcoding then I'll stick with mp4 - I hate the slow fast-forwarding.

No, I do the same as you, nothing special. With XenonMKV.
Works for my use I guess.

 

[lokiju]

Well if money is the biggest factor, get a xbox.

If not, get a PS3.

You can hack a xbox pretty easily now days also if that's your thing.

I have a PS3 though and like to keep things legit now days.

Plus I use it as a media streaming device to play all my movies and Hulu to my TV as well as Blu-Rays.

The only exclusive game I have for it to date is Uncharted: Drake's Fortune and it seems like these days most games are on both systems.

 

[Industrial]

does the OP even care anymore?

Last I heard he got a Wii :laugh:

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: arod

Originally posted by: erwos
Streaming media-wise, the main differences are that:
1. PS3 can play MPEG-4(H.264+AAC-5.1)
2. 360 can play ASF(WMV+WMA-5.1)

I tend to think the PS3 is the slightly better streamer because of the AAC-5.1 support, but I wind up streaming everything to my 360 anyways because of my Zune Pass.

Windows 7 media center trumps everything the ps3 has over the 360 in the media playback arena.... media center can play back virutally every file format out there (including native mkv support with the divx tech preview). and has an interface that blows everything away.

It's definitely got a lot of features. Unfortunately, for me, even on a Gb switch that both my HTPC running XP Media Center and my 360 are plugged into, it tends to lag a lot and sometimes just drop the trusted connection between the 360 and HTPC for no real reason. Now I just use the HTPC natively instead of trying to pipe it through the 360. Plus, I had a lot of issues tracking down codecs for some stuff that I wanted to stream to the 360 from my HTPC, while the PS3 Media Server has been pretty much flawless.

 

[jhu]

Originally posted by: Industrial
does the OP even care anymore?

Last I heard he got a Wii :laugh:

Actually I've had a Wii for a while, and it rarely gets used. There's rumors of a PS3 price drop coming soon. I can wait.

 

[DivideBYZero]

EVERYONE MUST VALIDATE MY CHOICE OF CONSOLE, TOO!

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx
It's definitely got a lot of features. Unfortunately, for me, even on a Gb switch that both my HTPC running XP Media Center and my 360 are plugged into, it tends to lag a lot and sometimes just drop the trusted connection between the 360 and HTPC for no real reason. Now I just use the HTPC natively instead of trying to pipe it through the 360. Plus, I had a lot of issues tracking down codecs for some stuff that I wanted to stream to the 360 from my HTPC, while the PS3 Media Server has been pretty much flawless.

Xbox 360 doesn't have gigabit Ethernet.

 

[sourceninja]

For what it is worth. I own a wii, xbox, xbox 360, ps2, gamecube, and ps3. If I could only keep one of them, I'd keep the xbox 360.

I regret my ps3 purchase. I only keep it around in hopes that I start watching blueray movies someday. I found streaming to just be too hokey for use on any system and setup my own little computer hooked right to the TV. This way I get Hulu, my own videos, rips, etc without any fuss. The exclusive games just arn't worth it for me, and all my friends have 360's, so if it's not exclusive I'll buy it for the 360 to play with them. The online content gets pushed slower then the 360, and there is less of it.

I spend most of my time on the wii playing sega/snes games. But when I'm playing nextgen titles, it's on my 360.

 

[alcoholbob]

One thing to consider is that once you weed out the games that are also on the PC, the 360's list of (good) exclusive games suddenly looks pretty bare compared to the PS3. If you game on the PC extensively I would recommend the PS3. Additionally, the 360 sounds like a god damn dust buster, and cost of ownership with Xbox Live actually makes the PS3 the greater value/$.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: erwos
Streaming media-wise, the main differences are that:
1. PS3 can play MPEG-4(H.264+AAC-5.1)
2. 360 can play ASF(WMV+WMA-5.1)

I tend to think the PS3 is the slightly better streamer because of the AAC-5.1 support, but I wind up streaming everything to my 360 anyways because of my Zune Pass.

PS3 can certainly stream WMV. I use WMM to make 1080P home videos and it plays back nicely on my PS3.

I agree. Did you notice the "WMA-5.1" part? Because the PS3, to the best of my knowledge, can't handle that.

As others have pointed out, Windows Media Center support is indeed awesome, especially with Windows 7... it's just not what most people think of when they say "streaming", for whatever reason.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: Astrallite
One thing to consider is that once you weed out the games that are also on the PC, the 360's list of (good) exclusive games suddenly looks pretty bare compared to the PS3. If you game on the PC extensively I would recommend the PS3.

How much did that PC cost again? You're very much comparing apples and oranges. Besides, there are a fair few 360 exclusives not on the PC that are still worth buying...

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: Astrallite
One thing to consider is that once you weed out the games that are also on the PC, the 360's list of (good) exclusive games suddenly looks pretty bare compared to the PS3. If you game on the PC extensively I would recommend the PS3.

How much did that PC cost again? You're very much comparing apples and oranges. Besides, there are a fair few 360 exclusives not on the PC that are still worth buying...

What are you typing on now? Oh thats right, a PC. And a "gaming" PC, costs a lot less than in years past.

Fact is, most people have both. Who are you to tell someone that a game is not worth playing now? If someone never played Mass Effect, because they didnt have a 360, what is wrong with playing it now? Nothing.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: erwos
Streaming media-wise, the main differences are that:
1. PS3 can play MPEG-4(H.264+AAC-5.1)
2. 360 can play ASF(WMV+WMA-5.1)

I tend to think the PS3 is the slightly better streamer because of the AAC-5.1 support, but I wind up streaming everything to my 360 anyways because of my Zune Pass.

PS3 can certainly stream WMV. I use WMM to make 1080P home videos and it plays back nicely on my PS3.

I agree. Did you notice the "WMA-5.1" part? Because the PS3, to the best of my knowledge, can't handle that.

As others have pointed out, Windows Media Center support is indeed awesome, especially with Windows 7... it's just not what most people think of when they say "streaming", for whatever reason.

I don't know. It plays WMA-HD. I'd assume it could also play surround sound. Got a link to a WMA-5.1 file I can try out?

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
What are you typing on now? Oh thats right, a PC. And a "gaming" PC, costs a lot less than in years past.

Actually, I typed it on a Mac laptop that my employer so kindly lends me.

Fact is, most people have both. Who are you to tell someone that a game is not worth playing now? If someone never played Mass Effect, because they didnt have a 360, what is wrong with playing it now? Nothing.

You're missing the point, which is that "PC+PS3" vs "Xbox 360" is not even a remotely fair comparison in terms of cost. Do we get to just assume this magical PC has Blu-Ray, too, so as to nuke the PS3's main non-gaming advantage?

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx
It's definitely got a lot of features. Unfortunately, for me, even on a Gb switch that both my HTPC running XP Media Center and my 360 are plugged into, it tends to lag a lot and sometimes just drop the trusted connection between the 360 and HTPC for no real reason. Now I just use the HTPC natively instead of trying to pipe it through the 360. Plus, I had a lot of issues tracking down codecs for some stuff that I wanted to stream to the 360 from my HTPC, while the PS3 Media Server has been pretty much flawless.

Xbox 360 doesn't have gigabit Ethernet.

Yeah, that probably doesn't help.

Still, with them both hardwired into a switch, you'd think it would be pretty fluid.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx
It's definitely got a lot of features. Unfortunately, for me, even on a Gb switch that both my HTPC running XP Media Center and my 360 are plugged into, it tends to lag a lot and sometimes just drop the trusted connection between the 360 and HTPC for no real reason. Now I just use the HTPC natively instead of trying to pipe it through the 360. Plus, I had a lot of issues tracking down codecs for some stuff that I wanted to stream to the 360 from my HTPC, while the PS3 Media Server has been pretty much flawless.

Xbox 360 doesn't have gigabit Ethernet.

Yeah, that probably doesn't help.

Still, with them both hardwired into a switch, you'd think it would be pretty fluid.

Yeah it should be. The problem could be the Xbox 360, the switch, the PC, or the cables between them. Are you using homemade Ethernet cables?