Proof that the MAJORITY of NYC is ILLEGALS

[glugglug]

There was an article in the Metro today about how they are considering changing the tax cemetaries must pay for burials, which is $8 per body.
That tax lately has been amounting to $2.2 million per year, but the maintenance, graffiti removal, etc. on the cemetaries costs only $1.8 million per year.

Anyways, $2.2 million/year at $8 per body means 275,000 deaths/year, not including those cremated, or "disposed of" by other means, which is probably pretty substantial. Even if the 275,000/year was ALL the deaths in the city, with an estimated 8-9 million residents, that would mean the average lifespan was only 30 years. Using a more normal lifespan estimate of 70 years would mean the actual # of people in NYC (or at least the # destined to be properly buried) is 19.25 million.

So the fact only 8-9 million are accounted for by censuses means that there are more than 10 million illegals in NYC.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: glugglug
There was an article in the Metro today about how they are considering changing the tax cemetaries must pay for burials, which is $8 per body.
That tax lately has been amounting to $2.2 million per year, but the maintenance, graffiti removal, etc. on the cemetaries costs only $1.8 million per year.

Anyways, $2.2 million/year at $8 per body means 275,000 deaths/year, not including those cremated, or "disposed of" by other means, which is probably pretty substantial. Even if the 275,000/year was ALL the deaths in the city, with an estimated 8-9 million residents, that would mean the average lifespan was only 30 years. Using a more normal lifespan estimate of 70 years would mean the actual # of people in NYC (or at least the # destined to be properly buried) is 19.25 million.

So the fact only 8-9 million are accounted for by censuses means that there are more than 10 million illegals in NYC.

:laugh:

 

[BurnItDwn]

What about people from the suburbs who want to be burried in the city?

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: glugglug
There was an article in the Metro today about how they are considering changing the tax cemetaries must pay for burials, which is $8 per body.
That tax lately has been amounting to $2.2 million per year, but the maintenance, graffiti removal, etc. on the cemetaries costs only $1.8 million per year.

Anyways, $2.2 million/year at $8 per body means 275,000 deaths/year, not including those cremated, or "disposed of" by other means, which is probably pretty substantial. Even if the 275,000/year was ALL the deaths in the city, with an estimated 8-9 million residents, that would mean the average lifespan was only 30 years. Using a more normal lifespan estimate of 70 years would mean the actual # of people in NYC (or at least the # destined to be properly buried) is 19.25 million.

So the fact only 8-9 million are accounted for by censuses means that there are more than 10 million illegals in NYC.

Where do you get your average lifespan from and how to you account/calculate for the number of births each year?

 

[JSt0rm]

I wish I was scientist too

 

[Jaskalas]

How does the OP connect dots between burials in a cemetery and people being illegal?

 

[BurnItDwn]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How does the OP connect dots between burials in a cemetery and people being illegal?

Perhaps he just has a really good imagination!

 

[jman19]

Dumbest thread of the day.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: jman19
Dumbest thread of the day.

 

[yllus]

Man, this is almost as bad as your last stroke of genius:

Anyone notice what gold & oil prices did on Friday?

Originally posted by: glugglug
For most of the day, the prices ($/ounce of gold & $/barrel of oil) were perfectly flat - didn't vary by even a penny.

This seems impossible to me, and thinking about it more, it just screams of manipulation. That and the MSM couldn't repeat enough how the lower gold & oil prices (& higher stock prices) Thursday & Friday were due to renewed confidence & a possible market turnaround.

Am I the only one thinking this is the work of the President's Working Group On Financial Markets??

How much more debt did the American taxpayer just acquire to short the gold & oil markets in an attempt to hold the price back below the psychological $1000/ounce barrier?

Originally posted by: Martin
Dude, it was a holiday...

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: yllus
Man, this is almost as bad as your last stroke of genius:

Anyone notice what gold & oil prices did on Friday?

Originally posted by: glugglug
For most of the day, the prices ($/ounce of gold & $/barrel of oil) were perfectly flat - didn't vary by even a penny.

This seems impossible to me, and thinking about it more, it just screams of manipulation. That and the MSM couldn't repeat enough how the lower gold & oil prices (& higher stock prices) Thursday & Friday were due to renewed confidence & a possible market turnaround.

Am I the only one thinking this is the work of the President's Working Group On Financial Markets??

How much more debt did the American taxpayer just acquire to short the gold & oil markets in an attempt to hold the price back below the psychological $1000/ounce barrier?

Originally posted by: Martin
Dude, it was a holiday...

thats a classic

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: yllus
Man, this is almost as bad as your last stroke of genius:

Anyone notice what gold & oil prices did on Friday?

Originally posted by: glugglug
For most of the day, the prices ($/ounce of gold & $/barrel of oil) were perfectly flat - didn't vary by even a penny.

This seems impossible to me, and thinking about it more, it just screams of manipulation. That and the MSM couldn't repeat enough how the lower gold & oil prices (& higher stock prices) Thursday & Friday were due to renewed confidence & a possible market turnaround.

Am I the only one thinking this is the work of the President's Working Group On Financial Markets??

How much more debt did the American taxpayer just acquire to short the gold & oil markets in an attempt to hold the price back below the psychological $1000/ounce barrier?

Originally posted by: Martin
Dude, it was a holiday...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Vonkhan]

the idiot is strong in this one ...

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: glugglug
There was an article in the Metro today about how they are considering changing the tax cemetaries must pay for burials, which is $8 per body.
That tax lately has been amounting to $2.2 million per year, but the maintenance, graffiti removal, etc. on the cemetaries costs only $1.8 million per year.

Anyways, $2.2 million/year at $8 per body means 275,000 deaths/year, not including those cremated, or "disposed of" by other means, which is probably pretty substantial. Even if the 275,000/year was ALL the deaths in the city, with an estimated 8-9 million residents, that would mean the average lifespan was only 30 years. Using a more normal lifespan estimate of 70 years would mean the actual # of people in NYC (or at least the # destined to be properly buried) is 19.25 million.

So the fact only 8-9 million are accounted for by censuses means that there are more than 10 million illegals in NYC.

Where do you get your average lifespan from and how to you account/calculate for the number of births each year?

# of births doesn't really matter in this equation, but if the # of births & # of deaths aren't approximately equal, the population would be changing more rapidly.

The 30 years is based on 275,000 deaths per 8.5 million residents. 8,500,000/275,000 = 30.9, so the chance of any resident dying within a year is 1 in 30.9

 

[glugglug]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How does the OP connect dots between burials in a cemetery and people being illegal?

At the current burial rate, everyone officially accounted for in the city would be buried in 30.9 years. Therefore, since a normal human lifespan is much longer than 30.9 years, the difference must be made up by people NOT officially accounted for.

 

[idiotekniQues]

the thread title is misleading. NYC is not mostly illegals or legals. its mostly building and street/sidewalk material.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: jman19
Dumbest thread of the day.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
How does the OP connect dots between burials in a cemetery and people being illegal?

At the current burial rate, everyone officially accounted for in the city would be buried in 30.9 years. Therefore, since a normal human lifespan is much longer than 30.9 years, the difference must be made up by people NOT officially accounted for.

Unaccounted for is not necessarily illegal but that is a very interesting point.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: glugglug
There was an article in the Metro today about how they are considering changing the tax cemetaries must pay for burials, which is $8 per body.
That tax lately has been amounting to $2.2 million per year, but the maintenance, graffiti removal, etc. on the cemetaries costs only $1.8 million per year.

Anyways, $2.2 million/year at $8 per body means 275,000 deaths/year, not including those cremated, or "disposed of" by other means, which is probably pretty substantial. Even if the 275,000/year was ALL the deaths in the city, with an estimated 8-9 million residents, that would mean the average lifespan was only 30 years. Using a more normal lifespan estimate of 70 years would mean the actual # of people in NYC (or at least the # destined to be properly buried) is 19.25 million.

So the fact only 8-9 million are accounted for by censuses means that there are more than 10 million illegals in NYC.

Where do you get your average lifespan from and how to you account/calculate for the number of births each year?

# of births doesn't really matter in this equation, but if the # of births & # of deaths aren't approximately equal, the population would be changing more rapidly.

The 30 years is based on 275,000 deaths per 8.5 million residents. 8,500,000/275,000 = 30.9, so the chance of any resident dying within a year is 1 in 30.9

lots of people move to new york

 

[brxndxn]

Originally posted by: Vonkhan
the idiot is strong in this one ...

I'm sick of this kind of bullshit.. The OP at least attempted to make an argument. You post nothing but a single error in reasoning (namecalling) to support yours.

It is pretty easy to point holes in the OP - but you resort to a toddler's tactics.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: glugglug

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: glugglug
There was an article in the Metro today about how they are considering changing the tax cemetaries must pay for burials, which is $8 per body.
That tax lately has been amounting to $2.2 million per year, but the maintenance, graffiti removal, etc. on the cemetaries costs only $1.8 million per year.

Anyways, $2.2 million/year at $8 per body means 275,000 deaths/year, not including those cremated, or "disposed of" by other means, which is probably pretty substantial. Even if the 275,000/year was ALL the deaths in the city, with an estimated 8-9 million residents, that would mean the average lifespan was only 30 years. Using a more normal lifespan estimate of 70 years would mean the actual # of people in NYC (or at least the # destined to be properly buried) is 19.25 million.

So the fact only 8-9 million are accounted for by censuses means that there are more than 10 million illegals in NYC.

Where do you get your average lifespan from and how to you account/calculate for the number of births each year?

# of births doesn't really matter in this equation, but if the # of births & # of deaths aren't approximately equal, the population would be changing more rapidly.

The 30 years is based on 275,000 deaths per 8.5 million residents. 8,500,000/275,000 = 30.9, so the chance of any resident dying within a year is 1 in 30.9

Doesn't a one year old killed by abuse or birth defect and a 61 year old dying equate to 30.9 also?

Also, the number of births play a large part. NYC has been seeing a decline in births but no real change in population. A lot of smaller cities are seeing loss of population (meaning that the migration to NYC may very well be of legal residents).

I'm trying to follow your logic, but without more detailed information, you are just pulling numbers out of your arse. You would have to canvas a large amount of death certs just to get a somewhat accurate rate of illegals and to generate a margin of error and then you would have to survey a large portion of the city's population to do the same and then work the numbers.

I could tell you that Joe Blow averaged a home run every 9.5 at bats last year making him the MLB leader in that category. Without telling you that he only hit 2 home runs in 19 at bats, you might incorrectly leap to the conclusion that he led baseball in home runs also.

 

[Jaskalas]

I believe the use of deaths and life expectancy is asinine in regards to calculating total population. I won?t go into detail, but this just doesn?t mesh for me.