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Profit-rich Toyota threatens Big Three

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Me I'm boycotting English goods because of King George. That bastard didn't want us going free. And don't tell me that something that happened 200 years ago isn't just like boycotting sweatshops in business today. My hate justifies anything and makes even absurdities look rational.

Get in the real world and boycott something that makes sense. Your old hate is insane. That's a political opinion I'm expressing to you. You have every right to be a nut cake. I just what to point it out. The times long passed to harbor such stupid ancient grievances. How much killing does it take, how many race religious and ethnic wars do there have to be before you see that you are the cause, you who hate. Modern Japan actuall learned something from the sins of their past as did the Germans. And the victoms want revenge, want to wipe out all that hard won wisdom because they themselves have not learned.
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I love how some Jewish people I know won't buy a BMW because it's German, but go ahead and buy a Ford, even though Henry Ford was a huge anti-semite and Nazi sympathizer before WW2.
 
im not liking my camry anymore. it's an 84, with 230,000 miles... 10,000 more and it makes it to the moon! (near earth orbit) but i dont like my camry anymore, i feel the damn thing's about to break apart. i'd rather be driving my truck, it it werent so uneconomical with fuel.
 
Shouldn't Toyota making 8 billion tell us something about the car industry ?????
They are charging us waaaaayyyyy too much for cars.

I mean even Ford reported a profit of $400 million?? in its first quarter.
Man, they need to charge alot less for cars if they're making that much money.
Never will happen though as Americans look to car as a status symbol.
 
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All I want out of the Big 3 is for them to build QUALITY cars that are dependable and reliable.
What is so hard about that? It seems that the Big 3 American car makers cannot figure this out. Why!!?? Don't they see that this is why they are losing business?

I really, really wanted to buy American last time I bought a new vehicle. However, my last American car (a Dodge) was a complete disaster. It was in the shop more times than I can remember, and ended up costing me thousands in repair bills over it's life.

I ended up buying a Japanese import last time, and it's been a trouble free driving experience ever since.

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Shouldn't Toyota making 8 billion tell us something about the car industry ?????
They are charging us waaaaayyyyy too much for cars.

I mean even Ford reported a profit of $400 million?? in its first quarter.
Man, they need to charge alot less for cars if they're making that much money.
Never will happen though as Americans look to car as a status symbol.
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Perhaps you've heard of supply and demand or market economics? What do you propose, having the government regulate the car industry right down to what prices they could charge?
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I guarantee you prices would go up then.

Also, you're missing the big picture as to just how freakin' huge these car companies are. Their plants are bigger than small cities, they employ hundreds of thousands of people, and their revenues are larger than most countries' GDP's.
 
Originally posted by: LeeTJ

because i'm korean and i hate what they did to koreans during the Occupation and during WWII.

before people get on me about buying other japanese products, electronics and such, truth is japanese products have become unavoidable, i'm not going to deny that. i just choose not to buy Japanese cars as a political statement because of what the auto industry signified. during the '70's the birth of the auto industry signified the shift of industrial power from the US to Japan. even tho the ECONOMIC war is far from over and it's still debatable who is winning (US or Japan). the shift in manufacturing power from US to Japan was a HUGE economic shift. it's what made japan the 2nd largest economic force in the world today. well, mb the EU is larger, but they really aren't a single entity yet.

anyway, basically that is why.
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Though that's your choice, but the whole picture is actually pretty muddy. Keep in mind that many Toyota, Honda and Nissan models are built in the US today.

For example, if you bought a Corolla (built in california), you'd actually be supporting more working class americans than if you bought a Ford Focus (built in mexico).

At anyrate, the auto industry isn't so critical to the US economy anymore. Supposedly Intel makes more money than GM, Ford and Chrysler put together.

Manufacturing as a sector isn't really hot anymore, most of it is being shipped out to third world countries where labor is cheap. For all the war drumming during the 80s about japanese economic take over of the world, it didn't play out and the japanese economy is still in pretty bad shape today. And despite the recession, the US economy is still what is holding up the global economy.

Also, one thing about japanese culture, views and perspectives are rapidly changing in Japan. Traditionally, the Japanese as a culture has been racist and hateful of outsiders. But that's not really true with younger generations. My friend worked for a year in japan about a year ago and this is what he is seeing. You might be holding a grudge against an aspect of japanese culture that is dying out.
 
At anyrate, the auto industry isn't so critical to the US economy anymore. Supposedly Intel makes more money than GM, Ford and Chrysler put together.
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Yeah, those Intel chips sure do get the same work done as domestic cars and pickups 😉
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
At anyrate, the auto industry isn't so critical to the US economy anymore. Supposedly Intel makes more money than GM, Ford and Chrysler put together.
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Yeah, those Intel chips sure do get the same work done as domestic cars and pickups 😉
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Yaknow, just like the media industry, the tech industry really needs to get rid of that big head. It's not the end-all of end-all's.
The biggest industries in America are banking/lending, retail, gas/oil/electricity, auto, and food/food service.
 
Of course its about supply and demand.
Cars wouldn't be selling how its selling now without the demand
but I was just going off on a tangent thought.
Its almost a crime for a company to be making that much money.

Anyone knows how what was the most Microsoft ever made in a year ??
 
I am Korean and I don't have problems with Japanese.
I'm displeased with what had happened previously, but I don't base my decisions now on that tragic event.
I drive a Japanese car because their reliable and very cheap to keep over time.
I try to purchase japanese because their goods have quality. From electronics to food, they put a lot of effort into whatever they manufacture.
If you don't believe on my previous statement a sentence back ( go purchase a box of Japanese Green Tea vs US/whatever Manufactured Green Tea ).
Yes the japanese products may cost more. But I do believe they put it more time,effort, care into what they produce. That I think makes it worth the extra buck


I will however never purchase another american car. Why ? due to bad experiences. due to the fact that the car has been in the shop quite often.
Why would anyone want to put their self through those problems, when another car company offers cars with proven reliability.
 
OK, this is about Toyota. 🙂

"Toyota has nothing to do with WW2."

This is not correct Toyota produced war machinery during WW2.
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Originally posted by: CTrain
Of course its about supply and demand.
Cars wouldn't be selling how its selling now without the demand
but I was just going off on a tangent thought.
Its almost a crime for a company to be making that much money.

Anyone knows how what was the most Microsoft ever made in a year ??
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True with supply and demand, but American Automakers would be pulling in more profit if there were more demand for it.
How to increase the demand ? Build quality cars. Build cars that actually do not spend 1/2 it's lifetime in the shop.
I wouldn't hesitate a second if they build cars like the japanese.
 
Originally posted by: Leetman
All riceburners suck, including Toyotas.
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Hey, its not flamebait unless you can claim something tangible and be able to back it up, otherwise no one's gonna respect you enough to even respond.
 
They may run well and all, but their looks/comfort level just does not meet the same standards as american and european cars.

EDIT: To be more clear, I just feel like low-mid range American cars are built with more quality, Lexus has been known to please me, though I'm not to keen on how their SUV's are designed.
 
I have a '93 Toyota Camry with 91200 miles on it and it still runs the way it did 10 years ago... I'd not get another type of car because I'm boycotting the AFofL CIO and Teamsters cuz they serve onion rings with their burgers... at the meetings.. and the other makes of cars don't have "toy" in their names so I boycott them too. Now my wife Girlcotts anything uncool... so perception is all that matters... sharp as the blue pin is..
 
Originally posted by: Leetman
They may run well and all, but their looks/comfort level just does not meet the same standards as american and european cars.
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Looks ? Are you telling me American cars look better than Imports ? Have you looked at the Aztek ? the CTS ? Talk about comfort level? have you driven or even took a ride in a ES300 ( Lowest on the Lexus luxury line ) ?
You'd be surprised how comfortable Imports are.
 
Originally posted by: Leetman
They may run well and all, but their looks/comfort level just does not meet the same standards as american and european cars.
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Bullsh!t (at least compared to American cars).

Chevy can't match Toyota in cars.
Lincoln/Chrysler/Cadillac can't match Lexus in cars.

THAT is a fact
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Leetman
They may run well and all, but their looks/comfort level just does not meet the same standards as american and european cars.
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Bullsh!t (at least compared to American cars).

Chevy can't match Toyota in cars.
Lincoln/Chrysler/Cadillac can't match Lexus in cars.

THAT is a fact
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He should really take a ride in the lowest luxury lexus ES300 ... I'm sure his tune will change.
The interior in the new RX330 is heaven sent.

 
Originally posted by: Leetman
They may run well and all, but their looks/comfort level just does not meet the same standards as american and european cars.
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BWAHAHAHAHAH! Has your experience with Japanese cars been limited to civics and Echos?!?! Sit in an Infiniti or Lexus and then try and repeat that same statement, dumbass.
 
Edited my old post to be more clear.

I guess it's just a matter of opinion, but I like Chevy's much better than I like Hondas/toyotas/etc.

Lexus does have the ability to please for me, but the others just don't do much for me.
 
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