probs with IC7, anyone have an idea....

[Foamfoot]

tried to setup my new IC7 board yesterday and everything was going well. i was using an SMC NIC card in the fourth PCI slot, it was the only PCI slot being used. i put it in the 3rd slot to give my 9700 card a little room. card was recognized, i installed the drivers and everything was going well. got online through my cable modem, dl'd WIN XP SP1 and some windows update files.

then i shut down and put my turtle beach santa cruz sound card in the next PCI slot. when i pwerd up, no new hardware was detected. i tried installing the santa cruz through device manager with no luck. no biggie, i can live with onboard sound for a bit but at this point my NIC card was no longer working. it was recognized in device manager with the "!". the error message was code 12, not enough resources. i checked but it didnt look like anything else was using the same resources.

as i assumed something with my sound card was screwing thinhgs up, i immediately removed it and did a fresh install of windows. as soon as the install finished, i went into device manager to install the drivers for my NIC and now immediately had the ! error of not enough resources. this is without any other PCI slots being used. i was only running 2 cdroms, 2 HDD both regular IDE. an agp video and the NIC, thats it.

i then tried disabling anything i could in the BIOS, clearing my CMOS, using the default BIOS, pretty much anything i could. the result was the same, an unuable NIC with error 12. i tried a linksys NIC i had sitting around, same prob.

i then tried a 3rd install of windows, same probs and im at a lost. can anyone help me out?

 

[Budman]

Looks like you're having IRQ sharing problems.

here's a few things you can try,first go in your bios & look for APIC no i didnt misspell ACPI it's APIC if you see it enable it also acpi if it's not on.

second you can try dissabling devices you dont use the free up irq's,look in your bios & disable com1 & 2 if you're not using your com ports;this will free up 2 irq's right there.

also try & set in your bios to Plug N play Bios to YES,also if you're not using your printer port disable that too but if you are try using ECP instead of ECP+EPP,the later uses 2 irqs i think.

Try that & hopefully this will fix it for you,also if that doesnt work try looking in your mobo manual, most have a page where they list what pci slot shares an irq with what other slot.

 

[Krk3561]

Try disabling on-board sound in the bios for your sound problem

 

[Foamfoot]

ok, i tried both suggestions with no luck. on my attempt this morning, i reinstalled everything and my system boots without issue. i disabled everything i could in the BIOS and this time i figured i would add my NIC card after everything was installed. APIC was enabled. i formatted my C drive and loaded WIN XP fresh. Windows loads without any problems. i loaded my INF from the Abit Disc. i rebooted and checked out device manager, everything looked good, ?? marks next to my video card as expected cause i dont like to install Catalysts for my 9700 until everything else is in.

i turned off the PC, popped in my NIC card, system reboots no prob. when the system boots i DONT get a message that the PC found new hardware as one would expect so i assume problems. i go to device manager and, as in the past, the damn ! is there and says i cannot use this hardware as "not enough resources are available". this is with 1 PCI slot being used, no infrared, no parrallel, no 1394, no onboard sound.... the only thing i was using was my AGP slot for my 9700 and 2 HDD and 2 CDROMS.

ive pretty much given up on the IC7 and i guess its going back on Monday. anyone else have any suggestions before i assume its a bad board?

not sure what i previously mentioned, but for whats its worth, the NIC card DID work initially until i tried to assign drivers to my PCI sound card (Turtle Beach Santa Cruz). the Santa Cruz was never recognized (with onboard sound disabled). i have tried several fresh installs and can't get the NIC card to work in any PCI slot. ive tried many installs without the santa cruz even being in the same room as my PC. ive cleared my CMOS, reinstalled windows several times, tried a linksys NIC card....the comp never automatically recognizes any new hardware that is plugged into any PCI slot. it does recognize the NIC card although it gives me the error message. the only PCI slot i have not tried is the first one as its too close to the 9700 in the AGP.

thanks again for any help!!

 

[snidy1]

did you try a bios update?

 

[Foamfoot]

i did not as the board is only out about one week. i believe there may be a beta bios that fixes some RAM timing issues but i dont recall anything listed on the bios that would impact my prob. guess it may be worth a try though.

 

[jaeger66]

Originally posted by: Foamfoot
i did not as the board is only out about one week. i believe there may be a beta bios that fixes some RAM timing issues but i dont recall anything listed on the bios that would impact my prob. guess it may be worth a try though.

If you're going to be buying a brand new board with a brand new chipset you really need to do a better job of keeping up with this sort of thing.

 

[Foamfoot]

i agree Jaeger and I usually do. i also anticipate performance type issues with new boards/technology - ie not getting everything out of it the first few weeks. its the price you pay for havinh tomorrow's technology now.

with that said, i dont see how a BIOS update is going to fix the problems i am having. if it were a BIOS issue, you'd see several posts of people with similar problems to me. i have searched every board - the abit forums, asusboards.com, overclockers.com to name a few - looking for anyone with similar probs. there are a few complaints about the IC7 and IC7-G but nobody with issues using their PCI ports. given the fact that the IC7 does not have onboard LAN, its safe to assume that anyone who has bought one had to install a PCI NIC card. i have not seen one complaint/issue other then mine.

after the earlier post, i double checked the new BIOS that was released and there was nothing in there that has anything to do with PCI issues. there was an issue with RAM mem timings and that was what the BIOS addressed among some other minor fixes.

i was just hoping that someone may have had a similar issue on a different abit MB or some other manufacturer MB and what the likelihood that this was a defect. or perhaps im just missing something in the BIOS...

as for keeping an eye on what has been released the only thing i have done other than several failed attempts at getting my new PC running, is reading every board posting and FAQ/troubleshooting item out there.

 

[eastvillager]

How old is the NIC?

While IRQ is the most common conflict in something like this, it could be a base address issue as well. Older NICs usually require a setup program to be run to modify this, instead of relying upon plug&pray. I'd download a system info tool and look for the conflicts, so you know exactly what is going on.

 

[Foamfoot]

the SMC NIC is brand new. other is a "standard" linksys that's maybe a year plus old. can you recommend any software to test out conflicts.. i can't think of any off the top of my head. much appreciated.

one other thing to consider though, the SMC NIC installed without issue the first time i put this system together. i was online in a few secs and everything was fine until i tried to install the drivers for my PCI TB Santa Cruz sound card. since then, even after clearing CMOS, formatting and reinstalling, i get the damn not enough resource error. even without anything else plugged in other then - CD ROM (2) HDD (2) and 1 PCI (my NIC Card).

thanks though worth a shot.

 

[smahoney]

I would recommend visiting the sites for the sound card and NIC. You may find that need a certain IRQ to function properly - this is a common issue with certain cards - IRQ's are often assigned automatically in BIOS based on the PCI slot - I would recommend installing each card by itself and try assigning different IRQ's in the BIOS after checking the sites and searching for recommended IRQ values.