Problem Solved: Should I call the police

[racolvin]

I got the feeling that you were on the road alot and I understand your situation. You leave the keys with mom in case the car needs to be moved for some reason (blocking drive way, etc) or if mom's car breaks down, etc. I get it.

That said, some of the posts here are right - he will not learn and will not move on with his life if he isn't forced to. I assume he's still living with mom and mom works so she can't keep an eye on him, so he nabs the keys and does his thing.

One option would be to put the car in storage while you're gone. Lots of the places that you can rent storage for your household items also have places to park cars, boats, and RV's. Put the car there, even if it costs you $50/month. That way the car isn't in the way at mom's place, he doesn't have the keys and even if he did, he doesn't know the code to get into the storage place. Of course you could take the keys with you, pack in them in your carry-on luggage and be done with it.

As someone who went through the "useless sibling" thing, tough love is the only way to make them get on with things. As for calling the police, I actually did have to do that at one point on my own father - it was not a pretty picture. Don't go there unless you absolutely have to.

 

[Schfifty Five]

He has no insurance? Do NOT let him drive at all!!!!! You are just asking for more trouble than you bargained for if he gets into an accident.

 

[travisray2004]

Originally posted by: Whisper
I fail to see, based on what's been said in the thread thus far, why you can't simply take the keys from your mother once they've been returned. Is she in another state, or in an area that's far away/difficult to get to? If so, ask her to ship them to you, and offer to pay her back.

That, and remove him from your insurance policy. Make the return of insurance coverage contingent upon his finding, and keeping, a job.

Given that your brother is 18, is he still in high school? If not, is he planning on going to college, or is he just bumming around the house, unsure of what he wants to do?

I agree with you. But he is unsure what he wants, and I don't want a vehicle to effect what he does. When I come home from traveling I stay there with my family, I am looking for a place but do help out with things around the house. As far as insurance is concerned I am not able to tell you that he is or isnt covered. I know they have default coverage where if family in the current household of insured vehicle was in an accident they would cover it, but with the owners permission, or account holder. That is why I have him give me a notice and when he is driving. That way its not like I get a call 2am telling me that my vehicle is impounded. I know you may think I dont love my brother but I want him to grow up and act like an adult. I know jail would kill out relationship but would maybe solve his issue about asking for something.

Originally posted by: Bryophyte
What's his AT handle?

Why is your car stored at your mother's house? Store it elsewhere if you don't want him to mess with it while you're away.

Not going to disclose his AT account. He can reply here and say. Car is at mothers place because thats where I return to. Somewhere else would be 4 hours away or at the airport, which would get expensive. I am not saying I want him not to drive it, just ask prior to it,

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: buck
This sounds like high school shit.

Beat the shit out of him, he will learn from that. Don't call the cops unless you want to end your relationship with him.

What relationship? If the relationship mattered to the brother, he wouldn't be stealing the OP's car!!

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: buck
This sounds like high school shit.

Beat the shit out of him, he will learn from that. Don't call the cops unless you want to end your relationship with him.

What relationship? If the relationship mattered to the brother, he wouldn't be stealing the OP's car!!

Little brothers act like idiots sometimes, usually a good ass kicking will fix that. However, you get your brother tossed in jail, you are ruining what could be a good relationship down the road.
I am sure we are missing small things, but getting a family member thrown in jail is never an option for me.

 

[travisray2004]

Originally posted by: Vinfinite
uh hide the keys better? or keep it on yourself? Seriously, you have to ask the internet how to take care of your keys?

SERIOUSLY?

My old truck didnt require keys just needle nose pillers.( Already moved it 4 hrs away) And door key for it was broke. The internet is so that I can blow of steam, if you can see why I can responded quickly then youll know that its because I am at a boring hotel room waiting to hear back from him on whether he parked the car or not.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: travisray2004
I am not saying I want him not to drive it, just ask prior to it,

I understand that, but you've already shown him that if he does take it without your permission, you don't do anything about it. How will he ever change his ways if you don't give him any reason to?

Keep all the keys with you and don't give him any access to them. Then if he wants to drive the car, he will have no option but to ask you permission.

I can't believe this is so hard for you to figure out.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: buck
This sounds like high school shit.

Beat the shit out of him, he will learn from that. Don't call the cops unless you want to end your relationship with him.

What relationship? If the relationship mattered to the brother, he wouldn't be stealing the OP's car!!

Little brothers act like idiots sometimes, usually a good ass kicking will fix that. However, you get your brother tossed in jail, you are ruining what could be a good relationship down the road.
I am sure we are missing small things, but getting a family member thrown in jail is never an option for me.

If the brother is a reasonable person, he'll eventually come around. If he's not, the relationship will be ruined eventually anyway, and the cause doesn't really matter.

 

[WA261]

This forum just keeps going down hill. Dude posts and gets a bunch of shit from little kids. I wish there was an age restriction here.

 

[travisray2004]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: travisray2004
I am not saying I want him not to drive it, just ask prior to it,

I understand that, but you've already shown him that if he does take it without your permission, you don't do anything about it. How will he ever change his ways if you don't give him any reason to?

Keep all the keys with you and don't give him any access to them. Then if he wants to drive the car, he will have no option but to ask you permission.

I can't believe this is so hard for you to figure out.

Like i said I dont want mean to think of me as the person that cost him his new job or to think that I am not willing to help him. I would take the keys and he would ask for them, and hed never get them when he would need the car by. I mean, hell ask for my moms keys and when she turns him down, he thinks he can take my. I dont know if you have brothers or sisters, but you should care enough to make them as successful as you. So they are not dependent on you. I just want him to get tired of asking me for the car, and finally get him own, and have his own job, and pay his own insurance.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: buck
This sounds like high school shit.

Beat the shit out of him, he will learn from that. Don't call the cops unless you want to end your relationship with him.

What relationship? If the relationship mattered to the brother, he wouldn't be stealing the OP's car!!

Little brothers act like idiots sometimes, usually a good ass kicking will fix that. However, you get your brother tossed in jail, you are ruining what could be a good relationship down the road.
I am sure we are missing small things, but getting a family member thrown in jail is never an option for me.

If the brother is a reasonable person, he'll eventually come around. If he's not, the relationship will be ruined eventually anyway, and the cause doesn't really matter.

I hear what you are saying, but me personally, I would keep the problem in the family instead of calling the cops.

 

[travisray2004]

Originally posted by: WA261
This forum just keeps going down hill. Dude posts and gets a bunch of shit from little kids. I wish there was an age restriction here.

People like you make us write blogs. Get used to it, you don't have to read this you know. Seems like you have bigger issues in your life then this thread so move on.

 

[AstroManLuca]

*facepalm*

I'm sorry, you're just too stupid for me to waste any more time on you or this thread.

 

[travisray2004]

Originally posted by: buck


I hear what you are saying, but me personally, I would keep the problem in the family instead of calling the cops.

I dont want to call cops, its the only leverage I have on the matter. I mean time I come home I am cooled off about the matter.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: buck
This sounds like high school shit.

Beat the shit out of him, he will learn from that. Don't call the cops unless you want to end your relationship with him.

What relationship? If the relationship mattered to the brother, he wouldn't be stealing the OP's car!!

Little brothers act like idiots sometimes, usually a good ass kicking will fix that. However, you get your brother tossed in jail, you are ruining what could be a good relationship down the road.
I am sure we are missing small things, but getting a family member thrown in jail is never an option for me.

If the brother is a reasonable person, he'll eventually come around. If he's not, the relationship will be ruined eventually anyway, and the cause doesn't really matter.

I'm glad you don't give advice in L&R.


.....oh wait.....

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: travisray2004

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: travisray2004
I am not saying I want him not to drive it, just ask prior to it,

I understand that, but you've already shown him that if he does take it without your permission, you don't do anything about it. How will he ever change his ways if you don't give him any reason to?

Keep all the keys with you and don't give him any access to them. Then if he wants to drive the car, he will have no option but to ask you permission.

I can't believe this is so hard for you to figure out.

Like i said I dont want mean to think of me as the person that cost him his new job or to think that I am not willing to help him. I would take the keys and he would ask for them, and hed never get them when he would need the car by. I mean, hell ask for my moms keys and when she turns him down, he thinks he can take my. I dont know if you have brothers or sisters, but you should care enough to make them as successful as you. So they are not dependent on you. I just want him to get tired of asking me for the car, and finally get him own, and have his own job, and pay his own insurance.

But it's okay for you to think of him as the guy who stole your car.

Have you called the cops yet?

 

[travisray2004]

Originally posted by: sixone
But it's okay for you to think of him as the guy who stole your car.

Have you called the cops yet?

Nope, didnt really plan on it, just want to see if there is anything else I could do. Besides throwing my keys into my carryon

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: travisray2004

Originally posted by: sixone
But it's okay for you to think of him as the guy who stole your car.

Have you called the cops yet?

Nope, didnt really plan on it, just want to see if there is anything else I could do. Besides throwing my keys into my carryon

Dude...you said he has no insurance. Do you have any idea what the other poor sap will go through if your brother causes an accident? If God forbid, someone gets hurt?

Get him off the road, please.

 

[WA261]

Originally posted by: travisray2004

Originally posted by: WA261
This forum just keeps going down hill. Dude posts and gets a bunch of shit from little kids. I wish there was an age restriction here.

People like you make us write blogs. Get used to it, you don't have to read this you know. Seems like you have bigger issues in your life then this thread so move on.

Write blogs? wow, you are a loser

Get use to it? been here much longer then you, so don't need your advise

Bigger issues? yeah, not sure of the M3 or STi


With your attitude, I can now see why people treat you as a dipshit...

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
*facepalm*

I'm sorry, you're just too stupid for me to waste any more time on you or this thread.

LOL

 

[summit]

if he is not an insured driver, and he gets into an accident, you guys will be fucked buddy.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: travisray2004
Hello everyone,

I currently had and have trouble with my younger brother taking advantage of using my vehicles with out my permission. He currently does not have a job, and don't think he is motivated in getting one. He is using the car for pleasure usage. THIS ISN'T ABOUT DRIVING IT AND WASTING GAS. This is about the respect of my wished to wait to hear from me before driving it. I currently have a policy for him to use my vehicle. It is.

1. Ask three days in advance
2. Answer cell phone if called
3. Return it better then what it was ( Gas,oil, maintenance and dents and dings)
4. Be responsible. No recklessness
5. Return keys when done with it

I am not being an @ss about it. Or charging him for it, though i should, I might make enough to buy another car. Its not that I dont want him to drive it, I would like to know when I could use it if I was to come in. That, and its to make him look for another job, so he doesnt have to ask for it. BTW he wants to buy it from me. I would sell it to him for $1500, $100 a paycheck. I know that might be alot but its easier then trying to get a loan.

I would call the cops if this is a persisting issue.

 

[BW86]

Is this thread serious? lol....

Keep the keys on your person.......DUH

 

[Vinfinite]

Originally posted by: travisray2004

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

Originally posted by: travisray2004
I am not saying I want him not to drive it, just ask prior to it,

I understand that, but you've already shown him that if he does take it without your permission, you don't do anything about it. How will he ever change his ways if you don't give him any reason to?

Keep all the keys with you and don't give him any access to them. Then if he wants to drive the car, he will have no option but to ask you permission.

I can't believe this is so hard for you to figure out.

Like i said I dont want mean to think of me as the person that cost him his new job or to think that I am not willing to help him. I would take the keys and he would ask for them, and hed never get them when he would need the car by. I mean, hell ask for my moms keys and when she turns him down, he thinks he can take my. I dont know if you have brothers or sisters, but you should care enough to make them as successful as you. So they are not dependent on you. I just want him to get tired of asking me for the car, and finally get him own, and have his own job, and pay his own insurance.

Yeah i totally see your point, you're making him succesful...By letting him disrespect you and steal your property.

I'm sure you both will succeed in life.

 

[IEC]

Fvck uninsured drivers.

I don't care if you have to melt the keys down, keep your bro off the road.

 

[TallBill]

Are you sure that you and your brother are not 13?