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mmonnin03

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Errors from the client would not make the score go down as the server would never see them as possible valid work. The 35k would need to be something completed as OK (Potential points during the competition) by the client but checked as No Good (Score reduced) by the server or comparing between main/check tasks. An Invalid so those CPU tasks.
 

Skillz

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Errors from the client would not make the score go down as the server would never see them as possible valid work. The 35k would need to be something completed as OK (Potential points during the competition) by the client but checked as No Good (Score reduced) by the server or comparing between main/check tasks. An Invalid so those CPU tasks.

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That's what I said.
 

Markfw

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That pic doesn't show the whole picture.

That box has:
14 CPU errors
19 GPU errors
20 CPU invalids

This leads me to believe it's most likely RAM related or possibly the SSD/disk is going bad. The latter part I'm guessing because some of the errors are related to this error
"Error: gproof_102.ckpt: bad file (crc32)"

Could this be the result of a drive failing and not writing the data correctly? It's a stretch.

Which is why with both CPU and GPU tasks being effected I'm leaning towards something wrong with the system memory causing errors.

However, I do agree with Tony that even an under volt or power limit can cause errors just as much as an overclock.

Bottom line is. Something is up with that system and it's effecting more than one thing.

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Upon further investigation it seems the only valid CPU tasks were returned late on the 16th and on the 17th. No CPU tasks before that were valid results. This leads me back to a possible heat problem. If the temps got lower on those days, but was higher on the days before. Then that could be the problem.

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Also seems the CPU tasks that got marked invalid took more time than those CPU tasks that did validate. Which could have been the result of heavy CPU throttling. Again pointing towards heat.

I'm on my phone trying to look this up. Someone, like Mark, should put all that data in a spreadsheet to sort through the data better by separating the errors, invalids and valids for CPU then do it again for the GPU in that box.
Well, the first thing is to check BIOS for that and the 9950x (also a problem, 7 of 40) The 9950x temp was at 95c (stock) and I set it to 80c. The SOC in bios was red at 1.35 and I set it down to 1.2. Now on the 7950x3d, it had already rebooted, so I know there is issue there. I wanted to check SOC and max temp in bios, but its the damn ASUS ROG bios and I can't find those 2 to change. There are screens that have SOC in the name, but is it memory or CPU ? and what name might they go by. Somebody that knows the ASUS ROG bios could be of a lot of help here. !
 

Markfw

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OK, thought I found it and it was 1.39, changed it to 1.2 and it would not boot, so I set it to 1.3 on the 7950x3d
 

StefanR5R

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Speaking generally without having looked at the results tables, there can be calculation errors which either the application or the client detect themselves, and calculation errors which only the validator ( = server with help of another host) detects. The latter type of errors is the one which cause point deductions in PrimeGrid challenges. Yet *if* there is interest in improving the host to compute correctly, it is obviously worthwhile to look at *all* of the types of errors to get a better picture of what went on. :-)
 
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Markfw

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I know this is about the August PG race, but before I forget, I will be out of down for it.
 

Ken g6

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This one's fast and at a good time for me so I'm aiming for half-day stats.

Day 0.5 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
5______16806751___markfw
7______14457768___crashtech
11_____8102172___10esseeTony
19_____5478265____cellarnoise2
20_____5069922____Orange Kid
29_____3889366____mmonnin
95_____747955_____Ken_g6
110____626665_____johnnevermind
111____618579_____w a h

Rank__Credits____Team
1_____57564234___Antarctic Crunchers
2_____55797443___TeAm AnandTech
3_____36273796___SETI.Germany
4_____21084245___Czech National Team
5_____19475131___Romania
 

Ken g6

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Day 1 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
5______31830539___markfw
6______29364309___crashtech
11_____16964428___10esseeTony
12_____16923998___cellarnoise2
21_____9804275____Orange Kid
25_____8498386____mmonnin
81_____2158962____[TA]Skillz
101____1536340____w a h
105____1463566____Ken_g6
112____1273545____biodoc
117____1196728____johnnevermind
133____1014793____Icecold
308____28301______kiska
376____4043_______zzuupp

Rank__Credits____Team
1_____122058170___TeAm AnandTech
2_____107450811___Antarctic Crunchers
3_____73643245___SETI.Germany
4_____49150751___Czech National Team
 

Ken g6

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Day 1.5 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
5______45976996___markfw
7______44869214___crashtech
11_____25143417___cellarnoise2
12_____24803805___10esseeTony
20_____14146457___Orange Kid
25_____12783966___mmonnin
28_____11979409___Icecold
62_____4669665____[TA]Skillz
72_____4014699____biodoc
100____2361112____w a h
111____2114489____Ken_g6
124____1774877____johnnevermind
142____1406964____ChelseaOilman
250____226408_____kiska
367____16172______zzuupp

Rank__Credits____Team
1_____196271478___TeAm AnandTech
2_____149041152___Antarctic Crunchers
3_____106739243___SETI.Germany
4_____73881782___Czech National Team
 

Ken g6

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Day 2 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
6______65387439___markfw
8______62626070___crashtech
11_____35287304___Icecold
12_____34211866___10esseeTony
14_____30888520___cellarnoise2
24_____19661109___Orange Kid
28_____18217758___mmonnin
57_____7887893____[TA]Skillz
59_____7515937____biodoc
99_____3634657____ChelseaOilman
103____3363776____w a h
115____2943304____Ken_g6
128____2502617____johnnevermind
274____226408_____kiska
388____28301______zzuupp

Rank__Credits____Team
1_____294382959___TeAm AnandTech
2_____210648386___Antarctic Crunchers
3_____149857838___SETI.Germany
4_____111324005___Czech National Team
 

Markfw

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I see that I apparently have found a bunch of different AP20's. No big deal ??

edit: and ap 21's
 

Ken g6

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Oh, right, Day 2.5 stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
7______83047263___markfw
8______79081080___crashtech
11_____48790924___Icecold
14_____42431285___10esseeTony
15_____41190084___cellarnoise2
24_____24439935___Orange Kid
28_____22939982___mmonnin
54_____10370295___[TA]Skillz
56_____10087285___biodoc
89_____5583383____ChelseaOilman
105____4216849____w a h
116____3658915____Ken_g6
131____3080766____johnnevermind
134____2902874____IEC
293____226408_____kiska
393____36387______zzuupp
442____16172______waffleironhead

Rank__Credits____Team
1_____382091801___TeAm AnandTech
2_____273375531___Antarctic Crunchers
3_____186172064___SETI.Germany
4_____161230797___BOINC@Poland
 

Ken g6

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And preliminary final stats:

Rank___Credits____Username
7______96850065___markfw
8______92026766___crashtech
12_____51997023___Icecold
14_____48989031___10esseeTony
15_____45358417___cellarnoise2
25_____28232269___Orange Kid
32_____23934560___mmonnin
55_____12213903___[TA]Skillz
56_____11550851___biodoc
84_____7135895____ChelseaOilman
101____5462093____IEC
118____4237064____Ken_g6
120____4216849____w a h
133____3545711____johnnevermind
306____226408_____kiska
409____40430______zzuupp
418____32344______waffleironhead

Rank__Credits____Team
1_____436049679___TeAm AnandTech
2_____324968254___Antarctic Crunchers
3_____225870281___BOINC@Poland
4_____216365188___SETI.Germany

Wow, @emoga that was close! Still might be - this is the last project with significant double-checks.