Price cuts are offical for nVIDIA cards

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krnmastersgt

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
So the pricing scheme for MSRP will be as follows?

4850 = $199
4870 = $299
4870x2 = $499


9800GTX = $199
9800GTX+ = $229
GTX260 = $329
GTX280 = $499



In my opinion the 4850 still stomps the 9800GTX and an OC'd 4850 stomps the an OC'd 9800GTX a.k.a. the plus, NVidia still is charging too much in that segment.

The 4870 stomps the GTX260 and comes damn close to the GTX280. $299 < $329 and 4870 > GTX260.... still over priced.

GTX280... still over priced junk and I almost feel sorry for any NVidia fanboi that paid $650 for it.... okay not really. Anyone that paid that premium deserves to feel stupid.

I'm kind of annoyed at how many people call anyone who buys a card like the GTX 280 a fanboy or an idiot. Simply put you pay 2-3 times more for performance nowhere near that but the performance is still higher yes? If $650 is a price someone is willing to pay to know they own THE best single gpu card on the market, so be it? Their money, no need to insult them because you think it's a bad idea. People use CF and SLI and you don't get 100% scaling from them, so are they stupid? It's called the enthusiast's card (or cards if we're talking multi-gpu's) for a good reason, they're appealing to a very small portion of the market with it. The GTX280 is obviously not the most cost effective, but that doesn't make it a bad card, so stop insulting your own intelligence by insulting others.
 

HumblePie

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GTX280 at $650 = junk

GTX280 at $500 still junky.

GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

I consider anything overly priced compared to other competitive parts on the market at the exact same time, junk. I consider anyone who would brazenly always buy said part for any reason at that price stupid.

Now, for some people was it actually cost effective to purchase a GTX280? Yes. why? Not everyone paid $650 and some through the step up program found deals, others got theirs through connections and what not.

The GTX280 as a card is fine, as a whole it is not because the price tag factors into owning anything in my opinion. Always had and always will. If I had found a way to pick up a GTX280 for the same price I picked up my 4850's in CF then I would have. Would I still think the charging schema done for card thus far has been correct? Not a chance.

Capitalism for what it is, is what is it. I don't begrudge anyone trying to make as much as they can get for a product. I won't buy anything I don't feel is worth it or the vast majority can tell isn't worth it. Since the 48xx series and the GTX2xx series came out practically at the same time, buying the NV card this gen around the moment on release for anything other than bragging rights about how deep your wallet is I find pretty stupid.

Notice, I'm not calling anyone out or pointing at anyone specifically. I'm being broad in my claim because this goes for any product put out. Anyone that blindly opens their wallet for a product deserves the chagrin they get.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.
 

Hauk

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Originally posted by: HumblePie

...GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.

What's your level of experience with CF & SLI? Have you tested various games for gameplay smoothness using a high mem/bandwidth part (8800GTX) compared to a lower mem/bandwidth part (G92 GTS)? Would you say multi-gpu setups perform as reliably as a single gpu part of equal muscle? Are heat & power consumption between the two tangible factors?
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Wow, that was quick.

Eventhough I dont have a need for a new GPU. A 260 at 220 bucks is damn tempting!

Ill wait though. No need whatsoever for a new GPU.

It's NOT $220!
Thats the AIB

The retail is still $320!
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: SteelSix
Originally posted by: HumblePie

...GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.

What's your level of experience with CF & SLI? Have you tested various games for gameplay smoothness using a high mem/bandwidth part (8800GTX) compared to a lower mem/bandwidth part (G92 GTS)? Would you say multi-gpu setups perform as reliably as a single gpu part of equal muscle? Are heat & power consumption between the two tangible factors?

have you read the anandtech review on the 4870? Obviously not, because it shows the even a single 4870 can beat a GTX280 at some games.
 

Hauk

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: SteelSix
Originally posted by: HumblePie

...GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.

What's your level of experience with CF & SLI? Have you tested various games for gameplay smoothness using a high mem/bandwidth part (8800GTX) compared to a lower mem/bandwidth part (G92 GTS)? Would you say multi-gpu setups perform as reliably as a single gpu part of equal muscle? Are heat & power consumption between the two tangible factors?

have you read the anandtech review on the 4870? Obviously not, because it shows the even a single 4870 can beat a GTX280 at some games.

Did I question the power of a 4870? I'm looking at 4850's in CF right now.. ;)

 

JPB

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The EVGA and XFX Black Edition 9800GTX models, went up in price. The BE was $249 yesterday, and now its $279.99.

And the EVGA models are $240 average at Newegg. :confused:
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: SteelSix
Originally posted by: HumblePie

...GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.

What's your level of experience with CF & SLI? Have you tested various games for gameplay smoothness using a high mem/bandwidth part (8800GTX) compared to a lower mem/bandwidth part (G92 GTS)? Would you say multi-gpu setups perform as reliably as a single gpu part of equal muscle? Are heat & power consumption between the two tangible factors?

have you read the anandtech review on the 4870? Obviously not, because it shows the even a single 4870 can beat a GTX280 at some games.



In that case, there are benches where a 9800GTX+ beats a 4850, and a 260 beats a 4870. But thats not the overall picture. I dont think anyone in thier right mind would argue that the 4870 is > than 280. That all changes with X2.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: HumblePie
So the pricing scheme for MSRP will be as follows?

4850 = $199
4870 = $299
4870x2 = $499


9800GTX = $199
9800GTX+ = $229
GTX260 = $329
GTX280 = $499



In my opinion the 4850 still stomps the 9800GTX and an OC'd 4850 stomps the an OC'd 9800GTX a.k.a. the plus, NVidia still is charging too much in that segment.

The 4870 stomps the GTX260 and comes damn close to the GTX280. $299 < $329 and 4870 > GTX260.... still over priced.

GTX280... still over priced junk and I almost feel sorry for any NVidia fanboi that paid $650 for it.... okay not really. Anyone that paid that premium deserves to feel stupid.


The top single desktop GPU on the planet having a $499 MSRP makes it "over-priced junk"? And you are calling other people fanbois? :confused:


I seem to remember paying $350 for a 8800GTS 640 the first week of this year.

I have a feeling this title will be short lived.
 

JPB

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I know I know...Grain of salt here



Dual GPU cards going cheap

Two for the price of one?

In case you're thinking about getting one of those dual GPU contraptions, we suggest you hold on just a bit longer.

Several retailers have listed EVGA's 9800GX2 for just ?279. This is a huge price drop, as some 10 days ago the same card was selling for more than ?400. However, the card is not available at this price yet. The cheapest available 9800GX2 comes from Leadtek and sells for ?330.

ATI's dual GPU card, the HD 3870 X2 is currently available for ?242. There are some recent listings with a much more appealing price, ?199, but these cards aren't available just yet.

Should these price drops materialize, both ATI's and Nvidia's dual GPU cards will become a very interesting alternative to recently introduced 4800/GT200 series cards from both camps. We don't think they'll stick around on the market for too long, so if you're interested, be ready to pounce as soon as they become available at the new prices.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: The Odorous One
After paying only $299.98 + tax for 2 x 4850's (CF BTW), all of those numbers look incredibly bloated ;)

Looks like you are one of the more *sensible* buyers :thumbsup:
 

lopri

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Originally posted by: HumblePie
GTX280 at $650 = junk

GTX280 at $500 still junky.

GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

I consider anything overly priced compared to other competitive parts on the market at the exact same time, junk. I consider anyone who would brazenly always buy said part for any reason at that price stupid.

Now, for some people was it actually cost effective to purchase a GTX280? Yes. why? Not everyone paid $650 and some through the step up program found deals, others got theirs through connections and what not.

The GTX280 as a card is fine, as a whole it is not because the price tag factors into owning anything in my opinion. Always had and always will. If I had found a way to pick up a GTX280 for the same price I picked up my 4850's in CF then I would have. Would I still think the charging schema done for card thus far has been correct? Not a chance.

Capitalism for what it is, is what is it. I don't begrudge anyone trying to make as much as they can get for a product. I won't buy anything I don't feel is worth it or the vast majority can tell isn't worth it. Since the 48xx series and the GTX2xx series came out practically at the same time, buying the NV card this gen around the moment on release for anything other than bragging rights about how deep your wallet is I find pretty stupid.

Notice, I'm not calling anyone out or pointing at anyone specifically. I'm being broad in my claim because this goes for any product put out. Anyone that blindly opens their wallet for a product deserves the chagrin they get.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.
8800 GTX was an extremely 'cost effective' card. I doubt anyone who spent $600 on its launch day would regret the purchase if he/she still has it. I feel stupid for selling mine after less than a half-year's of use thinking something better was around the corner. Early adopters of 8800 GTX got their money's worth.

GTX 280 is still the king of hill, and there was no way of knowing price drops to early adopters, as well as what AMD's offering will be like. On what ground you name-call others is beyond me. Sure you can call GTX 280 = junk, and that is your right. Name-calling others, isn't. Everyone has different priorities, not to mention different sizes of wallets.
 

Hauk

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With GTX 280 it's funny how the lifetime warranty partners' (EVGA, XFX, BFG) are still hovering over $500. I wonder if it's the partner or the e-tailer keeping the price up. I know Newegg likes to play around, offering free shipping on a certain brand one day, another the next, etc. Makes me wonder who's holding out. Their stock versions should be $499 any day me thinks..
 

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I'm sure a lot of ppl will gladly pay $600 if they make a card that can beat 9800GX2 the way 8800GTX did to 7950GX2.
I think 8800GTX beat everything by pretty good margin when it was released.
single GTX280 was beaten by 8800GT SLI, 9800GX2, and sometimes 4870, 4850 CF...
 

HumblePie

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Originally posted by: lopri
Originally posted by: HumblePie
GTX280 at $650 = junk

GTX280 at $500 still junky.

GTX280 if it was $300 to at max $400 = just right considering 4850's in CF or 8800GT's in SLI beat it for around that price range.

I consider anything overly priced compared to other competitive parts on the market at the exact same time, junk. I consider anyone who would brazenly always buy said part for any reason at that price stupid.

Now, for some people was it actually cost effective to purchase a GTX280? Yes. why? Not everyone paid $650 and some through the step up program found deals, others got theirs through connections and what not.

The GTX280 as a card is fine, as a whole it is not because the price tag factors into owning anything in my opinion. Always had and always will. If I had found a way to pick up a GTX280 for the same price I picked up my 4850's in CF then I would have. Would I still think the charging schema done for card thus far has been correct? Not a chance.

Capitalism for what it is, is what is it. I don't begrudge anyone trying to make as much as they can get for a product. I won't buy anything I don't feel is worth it or the vast majority can tell isn't worth it. Since the 48xx series and the GTX2xx series came out practically at the same time, buying the NV card this gen around the moment on release for anything other than bragging rights about how deep your wallet is I find pretty stupid.

Notice, I'm not calling anyone out or pointing at anyone specifically. I'm being broad in my claim because this goes for any product put out. Anyone that blindly opens their wallet for a product deserves the chagrin they get.

Again, I'm not calling anyone that owns a GTX280 a fanboy or an idiot. I'm calling anyone that actually PAID $650 for one that. Because well, they are.
8800 GTX was an extremely 'cost effective' card. I doubt anyone who spent $600 on its launch day would regret the purchase if he/she still has it. I feel stupid for selling mine after less than a half-year's of use thinking something better was around the corner. Early adopters of 8800 GTX got their money's worth.

GTX 280 is still the king of hill, and there was no way of knowing price drops to early adopters, as well as what AMD's offering will be like. On what ground you name-call others is beyond me. Sure you can call GTX 280 = junk, and that is your right. Name-calling others, isn't. Everyone has different priorities, not to mention different sizes of wallets.

Go re read my posts, because I haven't called anyone a name. I've called a CLASS or category of people a name, but that's like saying all people who drive without insurance are stupid. Perfectly acceptable to do so and both are claim I'll stand by until the day I die. Hell, George Carlin became famous off making fun of categories of people.

Now, if you are offended because you happen to fall into one of the categories of people I have so far called stupid, then so be it. On the other hand, I have been named called by having someone call me out on my intelligence when all I've done is state an opinion of mine that happens to differ from theirs. Great.

On another note, to the person asking about my experience with CF, I'll explain what I have.

I have 6 computers right now. My main has the best setup which includes and overclocked q9450 and 4850's in CF. Paid less than $300 for the pair. I also have a OC'd 8400 with a 4870 that I paid about $260 for. My other comps are OC'd opty 165s at 3Ghz each with 8800 GTX's. One GTX clocks at 660/2100 and the other at 640/2000. I paid $240 for one card and $200 for the other a little bit later. My other comp has an x850 xtpe on a single a64 3800+ and the last comp is a laptop with integrated graphics. Neither matter for this disuccsion but I'm stating what I have so people know at least have an ample room for comparisons.

I also had a single 8800 GT before I switched out to the 8800 GTX, paid $230 for the GT before selling it for the same and getting the original GTX for $240.

Now, in comparison with the following games, my 4850's CF works WONDERFULLY! The games I've made comparisons with on my soyo 24" MVA LCD at 19x12 are AoC (for the day I had it before the sub ran out when I got these cards), Crysis, Bioshock, Sins of a solar empire, Shadowrun, Gears of War, and Mass Effect. I haven't done much else though but I have a lanparty this weeked so who knows what I'll end up trying as more then likely I'll bring the 4 good comps because other guys there don't always have the best to play the rest of the games we may decide upon. Also, we'll more then likely try a bunch of older games as well.
 

Hauk

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@HumblePie, it's good to see the broad range of hardware in use. The dollar signs associated with the hardware help better explain your opinion and comments. Still, no point in calling a "class" of people stupid because they choose to pay launch price vs. what you consider worthwhile. None of this makes perfect sense you know. We're all guilty of wasting a little cash here. Enjoy those 4850's... :beer: