President is really winding up the anti-immigrant crowd - order to end birthright citizenship

[Ajay]

I know let me explain better. Once there is an established candidate attempting to run against the President everything will be amped up.

And even the left leaning MSNBC will spend 75% of their time covering Trump. I’m going to go insane.

 

[soundforbjt]

I know let me explain better. Once there is an established candidate attempting to run against the President everything will be amped up.

Can it get amped up any further? Trump will destroy anyone who runs against him, unless something happens to the economy, Mueller's report comes out, or a war breaks out.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Can it get amped up any further? Trump will destroy anyone who runs against him, unless something happens to the economy, Mueller's report comes out, or a war breaks out.

Oh it can, it can.

Simply look at the “humor” posts from our resident Deplorables in P&Ns middle name thread from last election cycle.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'm referring to the nomination, not the general in my previous posts. I know it will get amped up for the election.

 

[Stokely]

GOP fear-mongers to gain votes, news at 11...

On "paper" I'd be considered a moderate Conservative in say Eisenhower's day.* If they paid more than lip service to the ideals they spouted, I might actually vote for them. Instead, they engage in boogeyman tactics (trans, gays, muslims, immigrants, blacks, socialists etc etc...the list recycles) and "with us or against us", all-or-nothing tactics. Well, ok then, I'm against you.

If real GOP "conservatives" (in what I consider the true meaning of the word) start winning primaries again, I'll consider them as an option. Until then--and not holding my breath--straight D as the best way to oppose the radicals that have taken over the GOP since at least Reagan's time (which was the last period I actually voted R).

*(socially, no, not at all, I wouldn't ever have been down with homosexuality being illegal, blacks having to use different bathrooms etc)

 

[SMOGZINN]

Can it get amped up any further?

They said that after pretty much every rally in 2016, and we have kept a steady course for the bottom ever since. We haven't found that rock bottom yet, but I suspect it is somewhere around declaring martial law and suspending the constitution to 'lock her up' or whatever dog whistle Trump decides on to tell to his faithful to commit violence against his opponents are in the next election. If he even bothers with a dog whistle, I suspect we are eventually going to get to Trump just telling crowds of people 'would someone just killer her for me?' and then claiming he was joking.

 

[pauldun170]

How many babies a year are classified as anchor babies?
What are the demographics of these children? What does the data say? How was it collected?

Does anyone have actual information?
Please, no youtube videos or editorial or commentary.
Looking for hard verifiable data.
I would imagine it would be by analyzing birth certificates and immigration cases where it is confirmed that both parents were in the US illegally at the time of birth.

If this is a real issue, then someone must have performed a study.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Midway thru this story - Trump says border troops could hit 15K, surprising Pentagon - I found this gem:

Trump insisted the media is underestimating the caravans. “You have caravans coming up that look a lot larger than it’s reported actually. I’m pretty good at estimating crowd size. And I’ll tell you they look a lot bigger than people would think,” he told ABC.

Lol...

 

[K1052]

Trump is apparently now scheduled to give "remarks on immigration" form the Roosevelt Room this afternoon.

He doesn't have anything to sell for the midterms but fear, fear, and more fear.

 

[Engineer]

Midway thru this story - Trump says border troops could hit 15K, surprising Pentagon - I found this gem:

Trump insisted the media is underestimating the caravans. “You have caravans coming up that look a lot larger than it’s reported actually. I’m pretty good at estimating crowd size. And I’ll tell you they look a lot bigger than people would think,” he told ABC.

Lol...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL....X 100.

 

[soundforbjt]

Trump is apparently now scheduled to give "remarks on immigration" form the Roosevelt Room this afternoon.

He doesn't have anything to sell for the midterms but fear, fear, and more fear.

And his base is scared to death as usual. For always acting like tough guys, they are the biggest snowflakes of all.

 

[K1052]

And his base is scared to death as usual. For always acting like tough guys, they are the biggest snowflakes of all.

They've already voted also so continuing this seems pointless except to potentially alienate anybody still on the fence. He asked people at his rally last night if they already voted and when they all raised their hands asked "what the hell he was doing there".

 

[soundforbjt]

They've already voted also so continuing this seems pointless except to potentially alienate anybody still on the fence. He asked people at his rally last night if they already voted and when they all raised their hands asked "what the hell he was doing there".

I heard that too, what he's doing there is bolstering his ego as is always the case.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Trump's tough talk

Aljazeera(spelling?) News
Sorry you lost me

 

[Fanatical Meat]

@Fanatical Meat
and where did I lose you
did you fall off my pocket or something
maybe there is a hole in it
even so I don't put meat in there

Mostly state owned news organization, not as bad as RT but I don’t like to pay attention to them.

 

[Jhhnn]

Mostly state owned news organization, not as bad as RT but I don’t like to pay attention to them.

AlJazeera Is actually a pretty good news source. The tone of that vid was very neutral. They let Trump's fear mongering lies speak for themselves.

 

[Viper1j]

And his base is scared to death as usual. For always acting like tough guys, they are the biggest snowflakes of all.

If they were in prison, they would be referred to as "bitches", and "punks".

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump reaches out to grab conservatives right by their amygdalas. He does it so often than I suspect some of them have become entirely desensitized to it so that the thrill is gone.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Trump is apparently now scheduled to give "remarks on immigration" form the Roosevelt Room this afternoon.

He doesn't have anything to sell for the midterms but fear, fear, and more fear.

Trump is a fear seller. That is all he has.
As a person who has been involved in various sales positions I’ll say fear is an important part of decision making, it’s lazy and sloppy to only be able to sell to fear.

 

[pauldun170]

lol....

Luis Bracamontes, Cop-Killer in Trump’s Twitter Video, Actually Came Back to U.S. Under Bush
Trump also failed to mention that Bracamontes used an AR-15, a weapon that Republicans, including the president, don’t want to outlaw.

President Trump tweeted out a video on Wednesday designed to gin up fears of illegal immigration prior to the midterm elections. The spot, which drew comparisons to the infamous Willie Horton ad for its bigoted undertones, featured Luis Bracamontes, an undocumented immigrant who has been convicted and sentenced to death for murdering two deputies in Sacramento, California:

“Democrats Let him stay!” the ad declares.

And: “It is outrageous what the Democrats are doing to our Country. Vote Republican now!”

Except, that’s not the story.

Bracamontes was first deported to his native Mexico in 1997, during the Clinton administration, after he was busted selling drugs. But, according to U.S. Immigration officials, Bracamontes managed return to the United States by 2001, when he was deported a second time for being in the country illegally. That was during the first year of the Bush administration.

Bracamontes was back in America again by 2002. He married a U.S. citizen and remained in the country even as the Bush administration deported people at a record rate, topped only by the Obama administration.

When Bracamontes shot and killed the two deputies in 2014, he had been deported once under a Democratic administration and once under a Republican administration. He had been back in the United States for at least six years during the Bush administration and five years under the Obama administration.

Trump’s video also fails to mention that Bracamontes murdered the deputies with an AR-15 assault rifle, which both he and the Republicans have long resisted banning.

The AR-15 has been the weapon of choice for high-profile mass shooters. It was used by the manic who murdered 11 people in a synagogue in Pittsburgh this past weekend. He was a native born American and, unlike Bracamontes, was not featured in any Trump video or tweet.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/luis-...ter-video-actually-came-back-to-us-under-bush

 

[woolfe9998]

Does anyone have actual information?
Please, no youtube videos or editorial or commentary.
Looking for hard verifiable data.
I would imagine it would be by analyzing birth certificates and immigration cases where it is confirmed that both parents were in the US illegally at the time of birth.

If this is a real issue, then someone must have performed a study.

I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person here who can use Google properly. Try "how many achors babies are born in the US every year?"

You can skip the breitbart link and go here:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...n-in-u-s-to-unauthorized-immigrants-declines/

Explains how the data was collected and everything.

It should be noted that the majority of these are not what we would call "anchor babies." My understanding that the term refers to "birth tourism" where people come to visit/vaction then have a baby here, then later apply for citizenship for the parent because their child is a US citizen. Most of these are people who came here illegally, then had kids, but are obviously not applying for citizenship while living here illegally.

 

[fskimospy]

I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person here who can use Google properly. Try "how many achors babies are born in the US every year?"

You can skip the breitbart link and go here:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...n-in-u-s-to-unauthorized-immigrants-declines/

Explains how the data was collected and everything.

It should be noted that the majority of these are not what we would call "anchor babies." My understanding that the term refers to "birth tourism" where people come to visit/vaction then have a baby here, then later apply for citizenship for the parent because their child is a US citizen. Most of these are people who came here illegally, then had kids, but are obviously not applying for citizenship while living here illegally.

And to be clear 'later apply for citizenship' from my understanding is when that baby turns 21.

 

[Jhhnn]

I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person here who can use Google properly. Try "how many achors babies are born in the US every year?"

You can skip the breitbart link and go here:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...n-in-u-s-to-unauthorized-immigrants-declines/

Explains how the data was collected and everything.

It should be noted that the majority of these are not what we would call "anchor babies." My understanding that the term refers to "birth tourism" where people come to visit/vaction then have a baby here, then later apply for citizenship for the parent because their child is a US citizen. Most of these are people who came here illegally, then had kids, but are obviously not applying for citizenship while living here illegally.

They're not anchors, anyway, although I think they should be. When parents are deported they often take their American citizen children with them. Those children have the right to return, even though they may have received inferior educations & different acculturation in other societies. I don't think American kids need that, but they're obviously not real muricans to some.

 

[Jhhnn]

And to be clear 'later apply for citizenship' from my understanding is when that baby turns 21.

They have citizenship from birth they can assert at 18.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Mostly state owned news organization, not as bad as RT but I don’t like to pay attention to them.

Then you are missing out on good reporting from a news organization that has a rather good reputation. Your loss.