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MAME

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Speaking of cigarette smoke. The guy downstairs is on his balcony smoking all day, and the smoke goes into my windows, so I can't even air out my apt. I just told him about it, and he said he can't do anything about it, and to tell the manager, which I will on monday, but I doubt much will be done. So there you go. I either got to breathe stuffy air or cigarette smoke. I guess fresh air is not included in my rent. I guess I got him to stop caughing his lungs out at 5 in the morning directly below my bedroom window.
On the bright side, the lease is up in 1 month. So unless he dies of emphysema by then, I guess I am moving again, which is pissing me off cus I move every 6 months now.

That is weak. I would seek legal actions.

As for the OP, she's dumb but so are you for doing that to your body.
 

TitanDiddly

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Speaking of cigarette smoke. The guy downstairs is on his balcony smoking all day, and the smoke goes into my windows, so I can't even air out my apt. I just told him about it, and he said he can't do anything about it, and to tell the manager, which I will on monday, but I doubt much will be done. So there you go. I either got to breathe stuffy air or cigarette smoke. I guess fresh air is not included in my rent. I guess I got him to stop caughing his lungs out at 5 in the morning directly below my bedroom window.
On the bright side, the lease is up in 1 month. So unless he dies of emphysema by then, I guess I am moving again, which is pissing me off cus I move every 6 months now.


Say that you have an addiction to dropping water balloons filled with corned beef hash off of the balcony, and there's nothing you can do about it.
 

Mill

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Oddly enough I have a similar story. A friend of mine was at my house, and a friend of his was in the neighborhood. This guy came in with his six months pregnant girlfriend, and we were all sitting around drinking beer, and watching TV. She asks if she can have a beer, and I said no. She said why, and I said because you are FVCKING PREGNANT. Then she wanted to know if she could smoke in my house(no) and I grabbed her boyfriend and went outside. I said I hate to be a d!ck, but could you just take her home... I couldn't stand for someone to do that in my house. I saw the boyfriend a few months later, and they had broken up. The baby was born premature, and was still in the hospital at that point. He said she drank heavily and smoked throughout the entire pregnancy, and couldn't get her to stop. He broke up with her, but his insurance as covering the baby. The mother saw the baby twice since she had it at the hospital. He was there everyday and she spent most of her time drunk. He was trying to get custody and the time, and said dating her was the biggest mistake he ever made. I totally agreed with him. She was trash.
 
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Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Child welfare?

This is the simplest and seemingly most sensible option. But do I really have the right to change this kids future, even if I know it would be for the better?

in jail is a MUCH better place for a kid to be born than out of jail w/ fetal alcohol syndrom... ever try talking to someone born with that? it's just not good what she's doing to this person's next 80 years of life, 80 years of non-retardation you can save.
 

kenshorin

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Originally posted by: HotChic
It's the mother's choice, guys. Keep your anti-women, anti-choice noses out of it! It's just a fetus, not a baby; the woman can choose what she wants to do!









(For the developmentally disabled - I'm actually pro-life.)

We live in a culture where pregnant women are just that - JUST women, with all the choice belonging to them. If society rules that, pre-birth, the baby can be killed, guilt free, why should the caretaking of a pre-born baby seem any more important to these women than the baby's life itself?
Because for all practical purposes they intend the baby to be born?

I guess I suck at t3h sarcasm.

Some things just aren't meant to be joked about.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
Speaking of cigarette smoke. The guy downstairs is on his balcony smoking all day, and the smoke goes into my windows, so I can't even air out my apt. I just told him about it, and he said he can't do anything about it, and to tell the manager, which I will on monday, but I doubt much will be done. So there you go. I either got to breathe stuffy air or cigarette smoke. I guess fresh air is not included in my rent. I guess I got him to stop caughing his lungs out at 5 in the morning directly below my bedroom window.
On the bright side, the lease is up in 1 month. So unless he dies of emphysema by then, I guess I am moving again, which is pissing me off cus I move every 6 months now.

I know of quite a few apartment complexes that have rules about where people can smoke on the property.
 

jagr10

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Next the mother will be a single parent with a disabled child and she'll be living in social assistance housing and she'll be wondering why the government is helping her out more. It has to start with proper education and enviornment. No point in doing patch jobs afterwards.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Child welfare?

This is the simplest and seemingly most sensible option. But do I really have the right to change this kids future, even if I know it would be for the better?

sounds to me you are looking for a reason to not interfere. If you are really worried about the baby then do something about it. the 2 ideas listed above are good ones.

the kid is not responsible enough to take care of a baby. if they are smoking pot and drinking while pregnant then whatever happens to them is justified. If they cant stop for the sake of there son/daughter then they deserve to be locked up.

I just hope you can sleep at night knowing that kid is going to have a hard life.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: jagr10
Next the mother will be a single parent with a disabled child and she'll be living in social assistance housing and she'll be wondering why the government is helping her out more. It has to start with proper education and enviornment. No point in doing patch jobs afterwards.

bingo!

It is us who will be taking care of the baby since neither of the parents are responsible enough to do it. Which is very obvious with them not wanting to stop smoking, drugs, and alcohol.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: chrisms
Please no advice on my own use of drugs. I am not 16 and I believe anyone telling me smoking pot and drinking moderately is something I should stop 'because it is bad,' is completely wrong. Just trust me that my mind will not change on this issue, especially on an internet forum.

So I guess my choice are mind my own business, call the cops and have them deal with it or call child services and have them deal with it.
That's perfectly fine if you are going to continue to use drugs and drink. But as long as you do, you have absolutely zero right to tell anyone else that they should stop. Pregnant or not, you're nothing more than a hipocrite if you think she should stop and you shouldn't.

ZV
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: chrisms
Please no advice on my own use of drugs. I am not 16 and I believe anyone telling me smoking pot and drinking moderately is something I should stop 'because it is bad,' is completely wrong. Just trust me that my mind will not change on this issue, especially on an internet forum.

So I guess my choice are mind my own business, call the cops and have them deal with it or call child services and have them deal with it.
That's perfectly fine if you are going to continue to use drugs and drink. But as long as you do, you have absolutely zero right to tell anyone else that they should stop. Pregnant or not, you're nothing more than a hipocrite if you think she should stop and you shouldn't.
What the hell are you on? There is nothing wrong with smoking and drinking. There is something majorly wrong with smoking and drinking whilst pregnant.

 

iliopsoas

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Originally posted by: HotChic
It's the mother's choice, guys. Keep your anti-women, anti-choice noses out of it! It's just a fetus, not a baby; the woman can choose what she wants to do!



(For the developmentally disabled - I'm actually pro-life.)

We live in a culture where pregnant women are just that - JUST women, with all the choice belonging to them. If society rules that, pre-birth, the baby can be killed, guilt free, why should the caretaking of a pre-born baby seem any more important to these women than the baby's life itself?

That is one of the most idiotic assinine things I have ever heard in my life. And I've met many idiotic people.

YOu said, it's the MOTHER'S choice. You are already assuming that she will carry the fetus to term. With that in mind, it is UNETHICAL for her to be consuming alcohol, smoking and doing drugs when the devastating consequences of her actions are almost inevitable. The caretaking of a fetus will ultimately have major bearings on its life as a person.

EDIT: oops. sorry, didn't see yer sarcasm.

 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: chrisms
Please no advice on my own use of drugs. I am not 16 and I believe anyone telling me smoking pot and drinking moderately is something I should stop 'because it is bad,' is completely wrong. Just trust me that my mind will not change on this issue, especially on an internet forum.

So I guess my choice are mind my own business, call the cops and have them deal with it or call child services and have them deal with it.
That's perfectly fine if you are going to continue to use drugs and drink. But as long as you do, you have absolutely zero right to tell anyone else that they should stop. Pregnant or not, you're nothing more than a hipocrite if you think she should stop and you shouldn't.
What the hell are you on? There is nothing wrong with smoking and drinking. There is something majorly wrong with smoking and drinking whilst pregnant.
Depends. If he's talking about one or two drinks, that's OK. It's actually not terrible to have a glass of wine every couple days while pregnant.

However, he said that he smokes marijuana and that he drinks, the implication being that he gets drunk. If you think there is nothing wrong with either of those, then you've got issues.

ZV
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: chrisms
Please no advice on my own use of drugs. I am not 16 and I believe anyone telling me smoking pot and drinking moderately is something I should stop 'because it is bad,' is completely wrong. Just trust me that my mind will not change on this issue, especially on an internet forum.

So I guess my choice are mind my own business, call the cops and have them deal with it or call child services and have them deal with it.
That's perfectly fine if you are going to continue to use drugs and drink. But as long as you do, you have absolutely zero right to tell anyone else that they should stop. Pregnant or not, you're nothing more than a hipocrite if you think she should stop and you shouldn't.
What the hell are you on? There is nothing wrong with smoking and drinking. There is something majorly wrong with smoking and drinking whilst pregnant.
Depends. If he's talking about one or two drinks, that's OK. It's actually not terrible to have a glass of wine every couple days while pregnant.

However, he said that he smokes marijuana and that he drinks, the implication being that he gets drunk. If you think there is nothing wrong with either of those, then you've got issues.
Yes, and drinking and smoking marijuana help me solve them :D ;)

I don't see anything wrong with intoxication, if you want to cause harm to your body that should be your choice, but seriously screwing up the life of your unborn baby is just wrong.
 

Mallow

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she can probably be charged with child abuse in some states. the rights of fetuses are on the rise.
 

Eug

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I was sitting at a bus stop once and there was a teenage girl and a woman about 50 sitting there. They had just started up a conversation when I sat down near them, and it went something like this:

Woman: I see you're pregnant.
Girl: Yeah, #2. What are you doing here? Just waiting for someone? I'm waiting for my boyfriend.
Woman: I'm waiting for my boyfriend, too. He got out of prison today so I thought I'd meet him at the bus stop. So #2. How's the other kid?
Girl: Fine, but he was too big when he was born. I'm eating salads only and smoking a lot now so the baby will be smaller this time.
Woman: Oh yeah, I heard smoking makes the baby smaller.
Girl: Yeah, that's what they told me so hopefully the labour won't be so bad.

And yes, I'm serious. That has got to be the strangest conversation I've ever heard.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Eug
I was sitting at a bus stop once and there was a teenage girl and a woman about 50 sitting there. They had just started up a conversation when I sat down near them, and it went something like this:

Woman: I see you're pregnant.
Girl: Yeah, #2. What are you doing here? Just waiting for someone? I'm waiting for my boyfriend.
Woman: I'm waiting for my boyfriend, too. He got out of prison today so I thought I'd meet him at the bus stop. So #2. How's the other kid?
Girl: Fine, but he was too big when he was born. I'm eating salads only and smoking a lot now so the baby will be smaller this time.
Woman: Oh yeah, I heard smoking makes the baby smaller.
Girl: Yeah, that's what they told me so hopefully the labour won't be so bad.

And yes, I'm serious. That has got to be the strangest conversation I've ever heard.
:Q
People scare me.
 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Child welfare?

This is the simplest and seemingly most sensible option. But do I really have the right to change this kids future, even if I know it would be for the better?

do you really have the right to do nothing when you know she is killing its chance at a decent future?
 

PunDogg

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Originally posted by: chrisms
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Child welfare?

This is the simplest and seemingly most sensible option. But do I really have the right to change this kids future, even if I know it would be for the better?

Yeah i think you do, but i would go with some more proof than just what you saw. Pics/video but if something like that goes on over and over again, i would def tell someone

Dogg
 
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Eug
I was sitting at a bus stop once and there was a teenage girl and a woman about 50 sitting there. They had just started up a conversation when I sat down near them, and it went something like this:

Woman: I see you're pregnant.
Girl: Yeah, #2. What are you doing here? Just waiting for someone? I'm waiting for my boyfriend.
Woman: I'm waiting for my boyfriend, too. He got out of prison today so I thought I'd meet him at the bus stop. So #2. How's the other kid?
Girl: Fine, but he was too big when he was born. I'm eating salads only and smoking a lot now so the baby will be smaller this time.
Woman: Oh yeah, I heard smoking makes the baby smaller.
Girl: Yeah, that's what they told me so hopefully the labour won't be so bad.

And yes, I'm serious. That has got to be the strangest conversation I've ever heard.
:Q
People scare me.

in comparison to drinking, sure; otherwise... wow.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: chrisms
Yesterday I went to a kids house and his pregnant girlfriend was smoking pot, cigarettes, and drinking. Mind you I do all of these things, but I'm not pregnant. My friend and I told them off angerly, and asked the kid (who I used to be good friends with) why he would let this go on in his house. The girl responds to no reasoning whatsoever so I didn't even try much with her. We then left.

I feel really bad for this baby because the girl won't take care of it and her family is really messed up. Not on speaking terms with either of them anymore, what can I do?

Buy her a bicycle helmet, and when she asks why you got it for her, tell her, "You'll need it for your kid."