Pregnant cop complains about having to do cop work

[Sonikku]

www.cbsnews.com/news/field-work-or-no-pay-for-pregnant-kentucky-police-officer/

Seems to me that if she doesn't want to do police work she shouldn't be getting herself knocked up.

 

[master_shake_]

get her to assault some black guy and then get suspension with pay until she is cleared of all wrong doing.

 

[Nebor]

Seems fair to me. They're treating her just as they would a male employee.

 

[Newell Steamer]

During her first pregnancy last year, Trischler's department allowed her to take a desk job.

"It seemed to work well last time and I didn't have any reason to think it would be different," she said.

Oooo,.. yeah, they could be in trouble.

They have to explain why this was provided the 1st time and now it is being taken away. Taking it away AFTER she got pregnant a 2nd time makes them look bad.

If they took this away and announced it well before the 2nd time she got pregnant, I think it would have been fine.

 

[trenchfoot]

What we have here is their Police Department unwittingly planting the seeds of unionism in their work force.

I can just see how some national public workers union organizers are jumping at the chance to exploit this issue in their favor.

Well, I'm guessing that won't go over too well in Kentucky, although if i'm not mistaken, their legislature did recently kill a right-to-work bill.

 

[MrPickins]

Oooo,.. yeah, they could be in trouble.

They have to explain why this was provided the 1st time and now it is being taken away. Taking it away AFTER she got pregnant a 2nd time makes them look bad.

If they took this away and announced it well before the 2nd time she got pregnant, I think it would have been fine.

Or, it could be the case that they happened to have an open desk position at the time of her first pregnancy, but don't this time.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Or, it could be the case that they happened to have an open desk position at the time of her first pregnancy, but don't this time.

Understood - but, the lawsuit will play it as they are being unjust, unfair, etc. etc. and now they need to stop being mean to her,.. she is pregnant, they are making life difficult for her, so on and so forth.

I would be interested in seeing how this ends up.

I've been on a jury with a similar case - in federal court; where a 'held back' worker, who is black, was suing for not getting a better job from the town he lived and worked in. He lost - we found no ground or cause for discrimination.

 

[trenchfoot]

get her to assault some black guy and then get suspension with pay until she is cleared of all wrong doing.

lol. But if she wanted to do just that, from the looks of her baby, all she needs to do is beat up on her husband a few times with a standard issue tonfa and pistol whip him a couple of strokes for good effect.

edit - Aside from that, I would think that the NLRB is going to get involved somewhere in the time line.

 

[Jimzz]

Yea I was going to say she does not have much of a case since they treated her like any other cop. BUT if they offered her a desk job the 1st time but now they did not then they will have to explain that. They messed up and should have had a policy in place for matters like this and not flip flop between the 2.

 

[NesuD]

Past practice does not set a legally binding precedent. Just because they did it for her in the past does not legally obligate them in any way to do it again. Unless this circumstance is covered in a union labor agreement or by current policy that stipulates it there is no obligation provide the accommodation. She will lose.

 

[Jimzz]

Past practice does not set a legally binding precedent. Just because they did it for her in the past does not legally obligate them in any way to do it again. Unless this circumstance is covered in a union labor agreement or by current policy that stipulates it there is no obligation provide the accommodation. She will lose.

For the Fed Gov that is not correct, and since this is a union Gov job may cover as well. Its called the unwritten rule and has legal weight.

The best example of a case I read about was a guard messed up and an inmate escaped. He was fired. He appealed and he was reinstated and given back pay minus like 2 weeks or something. The reason was an inmate escaped before and the people were only suspended like 2 weeks or so. So since no rule existed that you are fired for a first offense for letting an inmate escape then they had to go by past handling of example like that.

In this case if they have a rule that pregnant cops keep working or take leave then again you may be right . If not then a judge can look at past examples and could go by that.

A lot of this will rest on what the written rules are and why she was allowed desk work last time but not this time.
I'm not saying she has a perfect case but I do believe it will make it to at least a judge/jury hearing it.

 

[Jhhnn]

Idiot cop brass does their best idiot routine & other idiots fall all over themselves lining up behind it. Unsurprising in this place.

Wonder how they'd feel if it were their daughter & their grandchild she's carrying under that bulletproof(?) vest.

I wonder if they expect her to successfully engage in much of a foot chase, or if they'll engender much respect for the department among citizens she deals with.

Any department with what might pass for a lick of sense would rotate pregnant officers through desk jobs their last 3 months of pregnancy as a matter of policy.

Oh, wait. It's Kentucky & the hurf burf of white male privilege all rolled into one.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Idiot cop brass does their best idiot routine & other idiots fall all over themselves lining up behind it. Unsurprising in this place.

Wonder how they'd feel if it were their daughter & their grandchild she's carrying under that bulletproof(?) vest.

I wonder if they expect her to successfully engage in much of a foot chase, or if they'll engender much respect for the department among citizens she deals with.

Any department with what might pass for a lick of sense would rotate pregnant officers through desk jobs their last 3 months of pregnancy as a matter of policy.

Oh, wait. It's Kentucky & the hurf burf of white male privilege all rolled into one.

....in all honesty, what makes a worker entitled to a job rotation?

If you are no longer qualified to handle a position, you are no longer qualified....

 

[jruchko]

I just want to know why the US is the only first world nation without any required paid maternity leave.

 

[irishScott]

Uh, to the douchebags in this thread:

Trischler's fellow police officers have donated 160 hours of their own personal paid time off. She has four weeks to go before the checks run out.

Seems she has a fair bit of support from other cops. And this isn't her slacking off or suddenly being unqualified, this is goddamn pregnancy, and it's not like she's some baby-momma with 7 kids by 3 guys or anything. If they're not going to offer paid maternity leave, they should at least do the light/desk duty thing. I'm sure they can find someone somewhere who needs an "assistant" for a few months. It's not like they can't afford to pay her either. Brass is just being dicks.

 

[desy]

Exactly
She isn't the problem
women get pregnant this isn't new, was like that BEFORE they hired her and gee I guess can forsee what might happen with that employee, they had workplace accommodation in place that wasn't unreasonable, now they decide to F it up w a step backwards policy and are surprised when they get backlash.
duh

 

[smackababy]

It sounds like the policy was written to address people who were attempting to abuse the system, and didn't think of pregnancy. It could be a case of them not having officers to cover her shift, but it doesn't really say.


It isn't that they don't offer paid maternity leave, just that it isn't for 4+ months. Her initial complaint was when she was 5 months pregnant. And, I'm sure she is going to want time with her new born after she gives birth. Should we just offer a year of paternity leave for women who get knocked up now?

 

[desy]

Lots of places in the world do just that, a year for Maternity leave, my employer also offers a year Paternity leave if the woman wants to get back to work and have the man stay at home

 

[justoh]

this is what happens when you take nwa literally

 

[smackababy]

Lots of places in the world do just that, a year for Maternity leave, my employer also offers a year Paternity leave if the woman wants to get back to work and have the man stay at home

Which is incredibly silly. There is no reason 99.9% of women can't perform their job while pregnant. The early stages of pregnancy are not something that stops you from working.

 

[Paratus]

this is what happens when you take nwa literally

 

[Veliko]

Which is incredibly silly. There is no reason 99.9% of women can't perform their job while pregnant. The early stages of pregnancy are not something that stops you from working.

Well no, that's why the majority of maternity leave is for after the baby is born.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why wasn't the pregnancy planned ahead of time, with proper arrangements made?

 

[smackababy]

Why wasn't the pregnancy planned ahead of time, with proper arrangements made?

Because people still like to believe accidents happen, rather than the truth: actions have consequences. The entire idea of a traffic accident is proof. It wasn't some random occurrence in 99% of the cases; it was one, or more, parties involved not paying attention, obeying the law, or otherwise, operating their vehicle properly. Same with pregnancy. You didn't accidentally have sex. There was no "well, I was masturbating and when I finished, it shot out, hit the ceiling fan, ricocheted off the door, and landed in the vagina of my wife on the toilet completely unnoticed!

 

[ch33zw1z]

7.5 months pregnant? yes, she should no longer be in the field.