Preferred ATI card maker ?

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Matthias99

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Except you're wrong. ATi doesnt manufacturer any cards thenselves.

Wtf are you troll talking? There is a huge difference between who makes the cards and who makes the mods. Your talking about a whole different thing in regards to what I'm stating.

No I am not. ATi doesnt make ATi branded cards. Sapphire makes them.

Sapphire, for a while, was definitely manufacturing at least some of ATI's "Built By ATI" brand cards. However, this was several years ago, shortly after the R3XX launch (when ATI didn't have enough manufacturing capacity to keep up with demand).

AFAIK, ATI for the most part makes their own cards, although it is likely they shop out at least some of the manufacturing to other companies. It's difficult to tell, since most ATI OEMs copy the reference designs very closely, and it's not like you can tell from visual inspection which factory a part came from.

And even if the "BBA" cards are being put together in Sapphire's facilities (and if you have information about this that you are drawing your conclusions from, please link to it), that doesn't necessarily make them identical to "Sapphire" cards, since they could use different components, different PCB layouts, etc.
 
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Originally posted by: mOeeOm
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For me, it depends on the card..

For example, for the x800XL PCI-E.. I like Asus and MSI for their dual-DVI capabilities..

Preferred card maker is generally personal and dependant on what features a person is looking for.

No..stay away from the Asus x800xl, its underclocked by 10mhz, it makes a very minimal difference between standard fps...like 3-6 frames per second in games, but on the other hand the Asus has a nice cooler, LED and some exta bells and whistles to go with its software, its also the cheapest X800XL when I bought mine.


I've already got two of them. And three of the MSI x800XLs..

Find me another cheap x800XL with dual-dvi. ;)
 

Ackmed

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Feel free to link to any info you have that Sapphire doesnt make ATi cards. Thanks.
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Feel free to link to any info you have that Sapphire doesnt make ATi cards. Thanks.

You want to link to something that says they do make ATI's cards?
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Matthias99

AFAIK, ATI for the most part makes their own cards

Link for that. Thanks.

ATi cards, are made by Sapphire.

Um, you started it. :p

Here's a link mentioning that Sapphire used to make ATI cards:

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Prior to Gigabyte coming onboard, this positioning had only been granted to one other graphics card manufacturer, Sapphire Technology. Sapphire has been producing ATI cards for years, and has been doing very well in the OEM business. In fact, (with the exception of Gigabyte?s cards), all early RADEON 9700 PRO production was handled by Sapphire, regardless if the board came from ATI, Sapphire, or one of the other RADEON 9700 PRO manufacturers.
 

KeepItRed

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Except you're wrong. ATi doesnt manufacturer any cards thenselves.

Wtf are you troll talking? There is a huge difference between who makes the cards and who makes the mods. Your talking about a whole different thing in regards to what I'm stating.


No I am not. ATi doesnt make ATi branded cards. Sapphire makes them.

GJ waiting for the third post to break out the name calling though.


Hmm I usually don't feed trolls.

Anyway, If I'm talking about modifications for the card, then you come whining about the brand of the card. That's 2 different topics. I don't understand where your trying to go. I've seen your other posts and I agree with Rollo on this one, he REALLY prooves you wrong.
 

rbV5

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Originally posted by: Matthias99
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Matthias99

AFAIK, ATI for the most part makes their own cards

Link for that. Thanks.

ATi cards, are made by Sapphire.

Um, you started it. :p

Here's a link mentioning that Sapphire used to make ATI cards:

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Prior to Gigabyte coming onboard, this positioning had only been granted to one other graphics card manufacturer, Sapphire Technology. Sapphire has been producing ATI cards for years, and has been doing very well in the OEM business. In fact, (with the exception of Gigabyte?s cards), all early RADEON 9700 PRO production was handled by Sapphire, regardless if the board came from ATI, Sapphire, or one of the other RADEON 9700 PRO manufacturers.


This pretty much sums up the Long standing relationship between ATI, Sapphire and PC PartnerLink
 

CraigRT

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not that partial, but I do love sapphire because they work awesome, and are usually cheap (not so much as in the past)
 

gunblade

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If you are in PC industry and have contact in Taiwanese nanufacturers, it is actually common knowledge that PC partners made Ati-branded cards and use the Saphire brand to sell in the channel and in retail. Another huge OEM Ati-based AIB partners is Tul which use Powercolor as their channel brand. They together make most of Ati-based design. Now, Asus and MSI are getting in the OEM market to compete with them.

Flextronics makes Nvidia OEM cards in the channel and all of the cards that used for review.
 

KeepItRed

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I think Sapphire are hard working people but they don't take care of their website/forums. I mean they make amazing cards and motherboards but their site still advertises the X550 and frigin Catalyst 5.4 :(
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: Matthias99
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Matthias99

AFAIK, ATI for the most part makes their own cards

Link for that. Thanks.

ATi cards, are made by Sapphire.

Um, you started it. :p

Here's a link mentioning that Sapphire used to make ATI cards:

article

Prior to Gigabyte coming onboard, this positioning had only been granted to one other graphics card manufacturer, Sapphire Technology. Sapphire has been producing ATI cards for years, and has been doing very well in the OEM business. In fact, (with the exception of Gigabyte?s cards), all early RADEON 9700 PRO production was handled by Sapphire, regardless if the board came from ATI, Sapphire, or one of the other RADEON 9700 PRO manufacturers.


This pretty much sums up the Long standing relationship between ATI, Sapphire and PC PartnerLink

That article would seem to confirm that, while both ATI and Sapphire contract out to PC Partner (Sapphire moreso than ATI, apparently), Sapphire does not directly manufacture ATI's graphics cards.