PREDICTION: Jeb Bush will be nominated and win the next presidential election.

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glenn1

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Sep 6, 2000
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I think it's time for at least 50% of the gop nominees to stop wasting money, especially bush.
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I'd go a full 2/3. Cruz, Trump, Rubio, and Paul gives a decently plausible and diverse candidate set. Kasich may stay in but it's pretty obvious at this point that he's running for VP and not POTUS.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Slick willie thought he had this crap too. Why wouldn't Gore?

Bill was launching military strikes against Osama Bin Forgotten in spite of a Republican congress, whom were chalking it up to a big Monica distraction. Bush would later blame Clinton for not doing enough to stop 9/11.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Bush donors are now going to be Rubio donors. Of course he will not be beholden to them. Republican SCOTUS looked at it thoroughly and found out that unlimited political contributions "do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption."

Yes, it's been said enough times already and we get your position - corporations should just shut up and accept whatever politicians want to do to them without protest. You've said your piece and can move on now.
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Yes, it's been said enough times already and we get your position - corporations should just shut up and accept whatever politicians want to do to them without protest. You've said your piece and can move on now.

Believe it or not, the Citizens United decision is a huge election issue to many voters, in regards to the likely Supreme Court appointments in the near future.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Yes, it's been said enough times already and we get your position - corporations should just shut up and accept whatever politicians want to do to them without protest. You've said your piece and can move on now.

Glad to know you're pleased with the current corporate oligarchy instead of a true republic.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Yes, it's been said enough times already and we get your position - corporations should just shut up and accept whatever politicians want to do to them without protest. You've said your piece and can move on now.

Every single one of the employees in those companies can vote for the candidate of their choice. Just like all other Americans.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Believe it or not, the Citizens United decision is a huge election issue to many voters, in regards to the likely Supreme Court appointments in the near future.

What, are you afraid that some rich person might get their hands on more of the government loot?

If Citizens United falls then congratulations, the corporations who will determine future elections will be the media companies like Viacom, CBS, and others. That is until you decide the entire First Amendment is getting in the way of complete and total control over Uncle Sugar and his magic money bestowing machine.
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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Bill was launching military strikes against Osama Bin Forgotten in spite of a Republican congress, whom were chalking it up to a big Monica distraction. Bush would later blame Clinton for not doing enough to stop 9/11.
Well . . . He launched attacks against an empty camp - empty because he warned them, because one of the guests was a member of the Saudi royal family - and claimed he launching military strikes against Osama Bin Forgotten. He could have claimed to be launching strikes against Hitler with as much credibility.

What, are you afraid that some rich person might get their hands on more of the government loot?

If Citizens United falls then congratulations, the corporations who will determine future elections will be the media companies like Viacom, CBS, and others. That is until you decide the entire First Amendment is getting in the way of complete and total control over Uncle Sugar and his magic money bestowing machine.
Well said. And I predict that if and when Citizens United falls, then laws banning any speech deemed to be offensive to social justice warriors will soon follow. Remember, tax cuts are the new N word.
 

nickqt

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Jan 15, 2015
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Weird shift given the historical insignificance of Iowa.

No, it's not.

Iowa doesn't mean anything in terms of delegates, but it gives a candidate momentum.

Again, who was initially crowned the winner of Iowa in 2012?

Who actually won Iowa in 2012?

It's all about perception, which is what I've said before. Iowa isn't actually important, except that people think it's important, so it is important. It's the first real contest of the presidential election, and leads directly to NH.

Obama, who was the underdog to HRC, won Iowa and proved he could win elsewhere (minus the massive amounts of in-person voter fraud committed by hispanic preteens with calves the size of cantaloupes, aided by time-traveling Vincent Foster and the entire cast of Benghazi!).
 

bshole

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Mar 12, 2013
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No, it's not.

Iowa doesn't mean anything in terms of delegates, but it gives a candidate momentum.

Again, who was initially crowned the winner of Iowa in 2012?

Who actually won Iowa in 2012?

It's all about perception, which is what I've said before. Iowa isn't actually important, except that people think it's important, so it is important. It's the first real contest of the presidential election, and leads directly to NH.

Obama, who was the underdog to HRC, won Iowa and proved he could win elsewhere (minus the massive amounts of in-person voter fraud committed by hispanic preteens with calves the size of cantaloupes, aided by time-traveling Vincent Foster and the entire cast of Benghazi!).

Fuck Iowa and Fuck New Hampshire. It is utter bullshit that those two states have such an outsized influence on elections. There is no reason to vote in primaries by the time Wisconsin is reached, the previous states have already decided for the entire country.

The number one reason that we will never get rid of ethanol is because of Iowa's perverted influence on presidential elections. They system needs to be modified.
 

shady28

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Apr 11, 2004
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Fuck Iowa and Fuck New Hampshire. It is utter bullshit that those two states have such an outsized influence on elections. There is no reason to vote in primaries by the time Wisconsin is reached, the previous states have already decided for the entire country.

The number one reason that we will never get rid of ethanol is because of Iowa's perverted influence on presidential elections. They system needs to be modified.

Maybe.

At risk of liberal ire for quoting one of their hated :

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/02/cruz_smashes_the_ethanol_subsidy


RUSH: There's one other major, major, major thing that happened last night which nobody in the establishment is gonna want to admit to, nor are they going to talk about it, and that is, bye-bye ethanol. Sayonara ethanol. You don't think so, Snerdley? Okay. Okay, well, yeah, it's an anomaly for one campaign, but look what happened. You had the governor urging everybody in the state not to vote for Ted Cruz because Cruz wants to end the ethanol subsidy.

What happened? Cruz wins.
 

compuwiz1

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Oct 9, 1999
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How long until he drops out? What point is there for anyone polling so low to remain in the race? I predict after he gets his nose bloodied in New Hampshire he finally quits. His donors have made a bad investment.
 

nickqt

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Maybe.

At risk of liberal ire for quoting one of their hated :

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/02/cruz_smashes_the_ethanol_subsidy
Two things are almost universally true of Iowa Republican caucus results.
1. They vote for evangelical(s), or the one who hoots and hollers the most like an evangelical.
2. They vote for an eventual loser.
How long until he drops out? What point is there for anyone polling so low to remain in the race? I predict after he gets his nose bloodied in New Hampshire he finally quits. His donors have made a bad investment.
For the establishment candidates, it's about being the last establishment candidate standing. They have no reason, politically or financially, to drop out before Super Tuesday.