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[pinion9]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
but porn is acting as well.

To an extent. But you cannot tell me that a man can get a hardon and keep it up if he isn't in the gay state of mind.

During sex, my mom calls me at home, I instantly lose erection and have no interest in sex for the time being. Same thing if a dude tried to sit on it. No interest. Couldn't even fake it.

Oh, wait, maybe they are REALLY good actors. No. Try again.

Answer my question: is a hitman a murderer? Yes or no please.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: purbeast0
but porn is acting as well.

To an extent. But you cannot tell me that a man can get a hardon and keep it up if he isn't in the gay state of mind.

During sex, my mom calls me at home, I instantly lose erection and have no interest in sex for the time being. Same thing if a dude tried to sit on it. No interest. Couldn't even fake it.

Oh, wait, maybe they are REALLY good actors. No. Try again.

Answer my question: is a hitman a murderer? Yes or no please.

maybe they are good "actors." most people can't just cry on command but all of the movie stars can do it like its turning a switch on and off. maybe it's the same for these dudes who are taking it in the butt.

and yes a hitman is a murderer. just like if a cop kills someone, he's a murderer as well. whether it's justified or not, it's still taking another human being's life.

EDIT: and wtf does a hitman have to do w/2 guys sucking and fvcking eachother?

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

and yes a hitman is a murderer. just like if a cop kills someone, he's a murderer as well. whether it's justified or not, it's still taking another human being's life.

EDIT: and wtf does a hitman have to do w/2 guys sucking and fvcking eachother?

There was an argument here that since they are being paid to do it, they are not really gay. The hitman analogy was to show how stupid that argument is; just because you are paid to do something doesn't mean you aren't in fact "that thing."

In other words, if a man isn't gay because he is paid to have sex with the man, then a hitman isn't a murderer for the same reason.

Porn stars = prostitutes.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: purbeast0
but porn is acting as well.

To an extent. But you cannot tell me that a man can get a hardon and keep it up if he isn't in the gay state of mind.

During sex, my mom calls me at home, I instantly lose erection and have no interest in sex for the time being. Same thing if a dude tried to sit on it. No interest. Couldn't even fake it.

Oh, wait, maybe they are REALLY good actors. No. Try again.

Answer my question: is a hitman a murderer? Yes or no please.

It's all mental. As I said before, with enough conditioning, you would pop a stiff one at the sight of a piece of pie, or a shoe, or whatever. As long as you tell yourself that something feels good, then it will.

Besides, it's not for anyone to decide that someone's gay except for that person. They could be pounding some dude from behind, and turn to you and say, "I'm totally straight. Girls are teh sexx0r." And as long as that's what they believe, then that's what they are.

 

[chuckywang]

Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: purbeast0

and yes a hitman is a murderer. just like if a cop kills someone, he's a murderer as well. whether it's justified or not, it's still taking another human being's life.

EDIT: and wtf does a hitman have to do w/2 guys sucking and fvcking eachother?

There was an argument here that since they are being paid to do it, they are not really gay. The hitman analogy was to show how stupid that argument is; just because you are paid to do something doesn't mean you aren't in fact "that thing."

In other words, if a man isn't gay because he is paid to have sex with the man, then a hitman isn't a murderer for the same reason.

Porn stars = prostitutes.

wow you are a fvcking idiot.

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

Sure there is. However, it would make us gay prostitutes. I could live with that, myself, for a few billion dollars.

"I may be a gay prostitute, but I own 3 islands and a helicopter..."

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
wow you are a fvcking idiot.

Do you have a reason for saying that? Could you please explain why? Where is your counter argument? Or do you just troll for the sake of it?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

Average AT response: "Yea, but it is a bajillion trillion dollars, hahaha".

Few here are willing to admit the reality that their price would be considerably less rather than risk bruising their e-ego.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: purbeast0
wow you are a fvcking idiot.

Do you have a reason for saying that? Could you please explain why? Where is your counter argument? Or do you just troll for the sake of it?

here ... since it's so hard for you to understand ...

Originally posted by: pinion9
There was an argument here that since they are being paid to do it, they are not really gay. The hitman analogy was to show how stupid that argument is; just because you are paid to do something doesn't mean you aren't in fact "that thing."

In other words, if a man isn't gay because he is paid to have sex with the man, then a hitman isn't a murderer for the same reason.

Porn stars = prostitutes.

that's my proof right there. your "argument" comparing a hitman to a porn star is so out of context i don't even know where to begin.

and if porn stars are prostitues how come pornography is legal in the USA?

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

that's my proof right there. your "argument" comparing a hitman to a porn star is so out of context i don't even know where to begin.

It isn't out of context. Someone stated that since they are receiving money to perform the action, they aren't really gay. I drew a parallel to the extreme that show how flawed that line of thinking is. It is quite a common method.

Let me ask you this: if a man kills a woman, for money, in a snuff film, is he not a murderer?

Originally posted by: purbeast0
and if porn stars are prostitues how come pornography is legal in the USA?

If mind altering drugs are illegal in the USA then why isn't alcohol illegal?

Did you know there are parts of the USA where prostitution is legal? Wow, you really are terrible at this...

edit: one other thing. Technically porn, smut magazines, etc. are illegal according to federal decency laws. Of course, they are never enforced for many reasons.

 

[chuckywang]

Urgh....you guys have GOT to learn the difference between necessary and sufficient conditions.

Being a murderer is AN ACT. It is SUFFICIENT to kill someone in order to be considered a murderer. Therefore, hitmans are murderers.

Being gay is A LIFESTYLE. It is NECESSARY to have sex with people your own gender to be gay. However, it is not sufficient.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

Average AT response: "Yea, but it is a bajillion trillion dollars, hahaha".

Few here are willing to admit the reality that their price would be considerably less rather than risk bruising their e-ego.

It's just sex. I have no idea what my price would be, but it probably only has 5-figures. Maybe even 4, even they are high enough. :laugh:

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

Sure there is. However, it would make us gay prostitutes. I could live with that, myself, for a few billion dollars.

"I may be a gay prostitute, but I own 3 islands and a helicopter..."

Yes, and after you have sex with another man on camera for a billion dollars, would you consider yourself gay?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

regardless of price, you wouldn't be able to do the deed if you were straight

 

[JDrake]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Anyone can be conditioned to get turned on by anything.

I believe them when they say they're straight, in that in their personal lives they don't have sexual encounters with men.

yes

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: pinion9
Let us all do a thought experiment. Try to get a BJ while looking at a picture of your mom naked. You are getting stimulation, right? So it should be easy? Doubtful.

Getting filled out like a job application by some dude makes you gay.

It is different for women because they can act. There are no signs that a woman is aroused that cannot be faked. Men, well, it is hard to fake it. Women can fake the O; men can't (well, Kramer said he could...)

Have sex with men = gay.

So dudes that get raped in prison, they're gay?

what a retarded question to ask... rape is rape. guys that get stuck in the butt against their will aren't gay... they had no say in what happened.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
So does this make Heath Ledger and Donnie Darko gay?

they didn't screw each other... they just kissed. that's different. i'd kiss a dude for as much as they got paid, easy... putting it in another dude's butt, on the other hand, is completely different.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

regardless of price, you wouldn't be able to do the deed if you were straight

That's not what I said.

 

[eits]

look, people

you = actor
your penis = not an actor

you acting gay = acting
you getting a boner while doing gay porn = you're gay

the end.

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Yes, and after you have sex with another man on camera for a billion dollars, would you consider yourself gay?

Didn't I state that? Reformed gay, but a gay prostitute at one time...

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: chuckywang
Everybody has a price. Believe me, there is a price for all of you straight men reading this that will make you have sex on camera with another guy.

regardless of price, you wouldn't be able to do the deed if you were straight

That's not what I said.

i'm challenging the fact that a straight guy could even physically have sex with another guy... that's what i'm saying. regardless of how much the dollar value, you wouldn't be able to put it to another dude's butt because you'd be limp.

 

[pinion9]

Originally posted by: eits
I'm challenging the fact that a straight guy could even physically have sex with another guy... that's what i'm saying. regardless of how much the dollar value, you wouldn't be able to put it to another dude's butt because you'd be limp.

I agree. In order for me to have sex with a dude for a billion dollars, I would have to be the, ahem, bottom. Couldn't get a wood for a dude. That is like saying "You would flap your arms and fly for a zillion dollars!!!!11one"

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: eits
look, people

you = actor
your penis = not an actor

you acting gay = acting
you getting a boner while doing gay porn = you're gay

the end.

Read: "omg....life too complicated....must hold hands over ears and hum loudly to maintain my overly narrow and uncompromising opinions"

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: pinion9

Originally posted by: eits
I'm challenging the fact that a straight guy could even physically have sex with another guy... that's what i'm saying. regardless of how much the dollar value, you wouldn't be able to put it to another dude's butt because you'd be limp.

I agree. In order for me to have sex with a dude for a billion dollars, I would have to be the, ahem, bottom. Couldn't get a wood for a dude. That is like saying "You would flap your arms and fly for a zillion dollars!!!!11one"

HAHAHAHAHA that's awesome haha