Powerbook G4

[crabbyman]

Boooopssshhh...Booooopssshh <---Darth Vader breathing..

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: kitkit201
welcome to the dark side my friend

The Empire is bigger than the Rebellion, as is Wintel to Mac, so in essence he is bringing balance to the force.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: chris7b
cool....its all dependent on my acceptance to Columbia (which i should find out by the end of the weeK). If i get in....then I will definitely by it on my Amazon card and get somthing back in return =)

Ooh...this is at Columbia. I might have to ask my friend going there to pick one up...do they have any left?

 

[chris7b]

No....actually im at UCLA right now....I start at Columbia in Sept. When i bought mine on monday, they had 3 more remaining.

 

[imported_fictionised]

Originally posted by: Childs

Originally posted by: kitkit201
welcome to the dark side my friend

The Empire is bigger than the Rebellion, as is Wintel to Mac, so in essence he is bringing balance to the force.

Hahaha. Sif Apple is Dark Side- we're the Rebellion, dammit!

 

[helpme]

Put as much memory as you can in it (2GB Max). The operating system will use it all up to cache things you've been using. For example, when a program is done with some data, the operating system won't classify it as 'Free', but 'Inactive.' This is why it may look like you don't have any 'Free' memory when you look in the activity monitor.

If the program needs it again, it will still be in memory for its use, if another program needs memory it will over write some stuff in the inactive space.

This is why your system might feel faster after extended use.

I can't find the other link I was looking for, but here's a simple one from Ars Technica:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/01q4/macosx-10.1/macosx-10.1-6.html

 

[Kipper]

That article reference OS 10.1, and in my understanding RAM and performance issues were addressed in subsequent releases.

 

[helpme]

From what I remember reading, the memory subsystem behaves the same in 10.2 and 10.3. It's the way it's designed to operate.

Wired Memory: Memory that will never be released (Frameworks, kernel)

Active Memory: Currently used by applications, may be released when they are done with it

Inactive Memory: Data used by one or more applications in the past, this is where most of your memory under. If an application needs this memory again, it won't have to go to disk to get it, but it makes your Free memory appear very low. If an application needs memory, it will use memory from this area (turning it into 'active)

Free Memory: Your total memory minus the sum of the other three types, usually very low as much of it will stay in the inactive category.

Example: I have 2GB memory in my Powerbook. After using it for about 1 and a half days, activity monitor (or top) reports:

Wired: 175MB
Active: 355MB
Inactive: 994MB
Free: 522 MB

Page ins: 77648
Page Outs: 0

As you can see, even after only a day or so of usage, most of the ram is inactive and had been used by programs in the past, while the free memory value will continue to head towards 0.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

More RAM would be great. My sister recently got an iBook with only 256mb of RAM. She says somethings are quite slow, such as opening up Photoshop. But I will get her more RAM soon.

 

[cirthix]

here are the results of the benchmarks

they are obviously different cpus, judging by similarity of scores at over 2x the clockspeed as well as different amounts of cashe. also, dont try to compare video scores, they use VERY different video cards

his system:

Results 76.40
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.7 (7S215)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerBook3,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 800 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 201 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM7
Drive Type IC25N030ATCS04-0
CPU Test 96.02
GCD Loop 92.06 3.60 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 98.81 357.33 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 98.39 2.86 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 100.92 1.57 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 90.79 3.63 Mops/sec
Thread Test 66.26
Computation 47.59 642.43 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 109.06 1.37 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 108.54
System 116.98
Allocate 514.13 335.37 Kalloc/sec
Fill 125.59 999.66 MB/sec
Copy 63.54 317.71 MB/sec
Stream 101.23
Copy 95.44 697.66 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 94.71 699.00 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 104.77 670.54 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 111.95 684.04 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 123.26
Line 105.49 2.69 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 117.83 8.29 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 119.10 2.75 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 108.89 1.18 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 199.22 3.25 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 80.78
Spinning Squares 80.78 56.53 frames/sec
User Interface Test 158.50
Elements 158.50 50.98 refresh/sec
Disk Test 33.22
Sequential 30.84
Uncached Write 16.99 7.08 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 28.59 11.71 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 85.94 13.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 41.30 16.69 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 36.01
Uncached Write 22.22 0.33 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 40.25 9.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 49.96 0.33 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 47.11 9.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]
-----
and the other 1.67ghz 17" system:

Results 107.62
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.7 (7T62)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,6
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.67 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.67 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type Hitachi HTS541080G9AT00
CPU Test 98.94
GCD Loop 91.14 3.56 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 84.69 306.28 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 97.05 2.82 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 99.73 1.55 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 134.62 5.39 Mops/sec
Thread Test 82.45
Computation 65.62 885.81 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 110.90 1.39 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 120.81
System 116.07
Allocate 839.91 547.87 Kalloc/sec
Fill 102.39 815.04 MB/sec
Copy 67.16 335.81 MB/sec
Stream 125.95
Copy 118.90 869.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 129.75 957.56 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 128.22 820.63 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 127.51 779.06 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 148.45
Line 140.25 3.57 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 117.01 8.23 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 125.79 2.90 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 156.28 1.70 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 273.60 4.46 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 121.72
Spinning Squares 121.72 85.18 frames/sec
User Interface Test 180.65
Elements 180.65 58.11 refresh/sec
Disk Test 71.20
Sequential 77.00
Uncached Write 85.79 35.76 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 59.93 24.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 105.95 16.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 70.59 28.52 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 66.21
Uncached Write 56.05 0.84 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 70.68 15.94 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.80 0.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 72.01 14.82 MB/sec [256K blocks]

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: cirthix
here are the results of the benchmarks

they are obviously different cpus, judging by similarity of scores at over 2x the clockspeed as well as different amounts of cashe. also, dont try to compare video scores, they use VERY different video cards

his system:

Results 76.40
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.7 (7S215)
Physical RAM 512 MB
Model PowerBook3,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 800 MHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 201 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card ATY,RageM7
Drive Type IC25N030ATCS04-0
CPU Test 96.02
GCD Loop 92.06 3.60 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 98.81 357.33 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 98.39 2.86 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 100.92 1.57 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 90.79 3.63 Mops/sec
Thread Test 66.26
Computation 47.59 642.43 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 109.06 1.37 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 108.54
System 116.98
Allocate 514.13 335.37 Kalloc/sec
Fill 125.59 999.66 MB/sec
Copy 63.54 317.71 MB/sec
Stream 101.23
Copy 95.44 697.66 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 94.71 699.00 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 104.77 670.54 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 111.95 684.04 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 123.26
Line 105.49 2.69 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 117.83 8.29 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 119.10 2.75 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 108.89 1.18 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 199.22 3.25 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 80.78
Spinning Squares 80.78 56.53 frames/sec
User Interface Test 158.50
Elements 158.50 50.98 refresh/sec
Disk Test 33.22
Sequential 30.84
Uncached Write 16.99 7.08 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 28.59 11.71 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 85.94 13.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 41.30 16.69 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 36.01
Uncached Write 22.22 0.33 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 40.25 9.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 49.96 0.33 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 47.11 9.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]
-----
and the other 1.67ghz 17" system:

Results 107.62
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.7 (7T62)
Physical RAM 1024 MB
Model PowerBook5,6
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.67 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.67 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type Hitachi HTS541080G9AT00
CPU Test 98.94
GCD Loop 91.14 3.56 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 84.69 306.28 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 97.05 2.82 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 99.73 1.55 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 134.62 5.39 Mops/sec
Thread Test 82.45
Computation 65.62 885.81 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 110.90 1.39 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 120.81
System 116.07
Allocate 839.91 547.87 Kalloc/sec
Fill 102.39 815.04 MB/sec
Copy 67.16 335.81 MB/sec
Stream 125.95
Copy 118.90 869.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 129.75 957.56 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 128.22 820.63 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 127.51 779.06 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 148.45
Line 140.25 3.57 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 117.01 8.23 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 125.79 2.90 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 156.28 1.70 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 273.60 4.46 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 121.72
Spinning Squares 121.72 85.18 frames/sec
User Interface Test 180.65
Elements 180.65 58.11 refresh/sec
Disk Test 71.20
Sequential 77.00
Uncached Write 85.79 35.76 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 59.93 24.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 105.95 16.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 70.59 28.52 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 66.21
Uncached Write 56.05 0.84 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 70.68 15.94 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.80 0.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 72.01 14.82 MB/sec [256K blocks]

That explains it. You misinterpreted the results. In Xbench, higher scores are better. Check here http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/ if you don't believe me. The older the hardware, the lower the score generally. Your brother's machine is not anywhere close to as fast as the newer al-book, but it is still definitely a serviceable OSX laptop.

 

[Childs]

Something still seems off with those scores, as the CPU tests are too close. A 1.25Ghz smokes a 800Mhz. Make sure the power settings are set to Performance.

 

[cirthix]

Originally posted by: sparkyclarky

Originally posted by: cirthix
here are the results of the benchmarks

they are obviously different cpus, judging by similarity of scores at over 2x the clockspeed as well as different amounts of cashe. also, dont try to compare video scores, they use VERY different video cards

his system---17" 1.667ghz new g4 powerbook

Results 76.40---107.62
Physical RAM 512 MB---1024 MB
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz---PowerPC G4 @ 1.67 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1---?
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)---32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 800 MHz---512K @ 1.67 GHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 201 MHz---none
Bus Frequency 134 MHz---167 MHz
CPU Test 96.02--- 98.94
GCD Loop 92.06 3.60 Mops/sec---91.14 3.56 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 98.81 357.33 Mflop/sec---84.69 306.28 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 98.39 2.86 Gflop/sec---97.05 2.82 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 100.92 1.57 Gflop/sec---99.73 1.55 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 90.79 3.63 Mops/sec---134.62 5.39 Mops/sec
Thread Test 66.26---82.45
Computation 47.59 642.43 Kops/sec, 4 threads---65.62 885.81 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 109.06 1.37 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads---110.90 1.39 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 108.54---120.81
System 116.98---116.07
Allocate 514.13 335.37 Kalloc/sec---839.91 547.87 Kalloc/sec
Fill 125.59 999.66 MB/sec---102.39 815.04 MB/sec
Copy 63.54 317.71 MB/sec---67.16 335.81 MB/sec
Stream 101.23---125.95
Copy 95.44 697.66 MB/sec [altivec]---118.90 869.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 94.71 699.00 MB/sec [altivec]---129.75 957.56 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 104.77 670.54 MB/sec [altivec]---128.22 820.63 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 111.95 684.04 MB/sec [altivec]---127.51 779.06 MB/sec [altivec]
User Interface Test 158.50---180.65
Elements 158.50 50.98 refresh/sec---180.65 58.11 refresh/secQ]



That explains it. You misinterpreted the results. In Xbench, higher scores are better. Check here http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/ if you don't believe me. The older the hardware, the lower the score generally. Your brother's machine is not anywhere close to as fast as the newer al-book, but it is still definitely a serviceable OSX laptop.

i reorganized it (and deleted graphics stuff, you really cant compare the vid cards, also took out hdd scores, were looking at bare cpu here) to show it more easily readable, it is faster, but BARELY. my point is that, assuming these scores are accurate (somebody else please bench their stuff), apple pulled an intel here and cranked the frequency with barely changing acutal performance. (its an analogy, dont even start an intel-amd flame war here)

notice how the new one wins only majorly when the ram is used a bunch? its because it has faster ram (ddr vrs sdram, also, its got more ram). the scores are way too close for a cpu with over twice the frequency

 

[cirthix]

Originally posted by: sparkyclarky

Originally posted by: cirthix
here are the results of the benchmarks

they are obviously different cpus, judging by similarity of scores at over 2x the clockspeed as well as different amounts of cashe. also, dont try to compare video scores, they use VERY different video cards

. his system---17" 1.667ghz new g4 powerbook

Results 76.40---107.62
Physical RAM 512 MB---1024 MB
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz---PowerPC G4 @ 1.67 GHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v2.1---?
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)---32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 800 MHz---512K @ 1.67 GHz
L3 Cache 1024K @ 201 MHz---none
Bus Frequency 134 MHz---167 MHz

CPU Test 96.02--- 98.94
GCD Loop 92.06 3.60 Mops/sec---91.14 3.56 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 98.81 357.33 Mflop/sec---84.69 306.28 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 98.39 2.86 Gflop/sec---97.05 2.82 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 100.92 1.57 Gflop/sec---99.73 1.55 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 90.79 3.63 Mops/sec---134.62 5.39 Mops/sec

Thread Test 66.26---82.45
Computation 47.59 642.43 Kops/sec, 4 threads---65.62 885.81 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 109.06 1.37 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads---110.90 1.39 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test 108.54---120.81
System 116.98---116.07
Allocate 514.13 335.37 Kalloc/sec---839.91 547.87 Kalloc/sec
Fill 125.59 999.66 MB/sec---102.39 815.04 MB/sec
Copy 63.54 317.71 MB/sec---67.16 335.81 MB/sec
Stream 101.23---125.95
Copy 95.44 697.66 MB/sec [altivec]---118.90 869.14 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 94.71 699.00 MB/sec [altivec]---129.75 957.56 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 104.77 670.54 MB/sec [altivec]---128.22 820.63 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 111.95 684.04 MB/sec [altivec]---127.51 779.06 MB/sec [altivec]

User Interface Test 158.50---180.65
Elements 158.50 50.98 refresh/sec---180.65 58.11 refresh/secQ]



That explains it. You misinterpreted the results. In Xbench, higher scores are better. Check here http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/ if you don't believe me. The older the hardware, the lower the score generally. Your brother's machine is not anywhere close to as fast as the newer al-book, but it is still definitely a serviceable OSX laptop.

i reorganized it (and deleted graphics stuff, you really cant compare the vid cards, also took out hdd scores, were looking at bare cpu here) to show it more easily readable, it is faster, but BARELY. my point is that, assuming these scores are accurate (somebody else please bench their stuff), apple pulled an intel here and cranked the frequency with barely changing acutal performance. (its an analogy, dont even start an intel-amd flame war here)

notice how the new one wins only majorly when the ram is used a bunch? its because it has faster ram (ddr vrs sdram, also, its got more ram). the scores are way too close for a cpu with over twice the frequency

edited: formatting

 

[Childs]

Something is wrong with your friends machine, and should not be considered a reliable source of info.

My 12" 1.33Ghz

Results 124.02
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G33)
Physical RAM 256 MB
Model PowerBook6,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.33 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.33 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce FX Go5200
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 151.29
GCD Loop 154.95 6.05 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 121.33 438.78 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 162.89 4.73 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 166.81 2.59 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 160.78 6.44 Mops/sec
Thread Test 117.97
Computation 84.76 1.14 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 193.98 2.44 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 123.61
System 136.53
Allocate 846.28 552.03 Kalloc/sec
Fill 135.96 1082.25 MB/sec
Copy 74.43 372.14 MB/sec
Stream 112.92
Copy 115.22 842.26 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 117.42 866.55 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 112.56 720.36 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 107.01 653.85 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 137.28
Line 105.89 2.70 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 124.37 8.75 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 139.72 3.22 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 115.76 1.26 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 318.40 5.19 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 128.06
Spinning Squares 128.06 89.61 frames/sec
User Interface Test 197.65
Elements 197.65 63.57 refresh/sec
Disk Test 76.26
Sequential 94.28
Uncached Write 84.62 35.27 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 73.75 30.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 199.69 31.61 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 83.05 33.56 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 64.03
Uncached Write 49.99 0.75 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 63.33 14.28 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 69.93 0.46 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 80.78 16.62 MB/sec [256K blocks]

EDIT: Whats also interesting is that I just upgraded it to Tiger, and there was a 7% increase in the CPU Test score, 36% increase in the Floating Point Basic, and about a 2% decrease in vecLib FFT.

 

[Wuzup101]

Something is definitely wrong with that 1.67ghz machine. This is an Xbench run that I ran on the fly WHILE ON BATTERY POWER WITH POWER SETTINGS SET TO REDUCED on my 1.5ghz 15" (see sig).

EDIT: I should also mention that I didn't bother to stop doing what I was doing... so iTunes was playing... Word, Powerpoint, Excel, iCal, Camino, etc... are still open and all...

Results 110.73
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.9 (7W98)
Physical RAM 1280 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type Hitachi HTS548080M9AT00
CPU Test 161.80
GCD Loop 148.31 5.79 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 164.29 594.13 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 173.12 5.03 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 177.16 2.75 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 150.34 6.02 Mops/sec
Thread Test 105.82
Computation 73.98 998.72 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 185.75 2.33 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 121.93
System 118.44
Allocate 791.95 516.59 Kalloc/sec
Fill 111.14 884.68 MB/sec
Copy 66.36 331.81 MB/sec
Stream 125.64
Copy 120.96 884.25 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 122.40 903.34 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 132.23 846.29 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 127.56 779.41 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 135.16
Line 116.80 2.97 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 129.54 9.11 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 127.21 2.93 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 132.82 1.44 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 187.92 3.06 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 97.88
Spinning Squares 97.88 68.49 frames/sec
User Interface Test 146.23
Elements 146.23 47.03 refresh/sec
Disk Test 66.98
Sequential 74.83
Uncached Write 72.18 30.09 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 61.17 25.05 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 123.57 19.56 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 65.97 26.65 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 60.62
Uncached Write 50.14 0.75 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 63.19 14.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 63.82 0.42 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.74 14.15 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Edit: Here is the xbench w/ settings to highest:

Results 124.25
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.9 (7W98)
Physical RAM 1280 MB
Model PowerBook5,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.50 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.50 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type Hitachi HTS548080M9AT00
CPU Test 176.96
GCD Loop 162.84 6.36 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 178.69 646.19 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 184.40 5.36 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 185.24 2.88 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 175.57 7.03 Mops/sec
Thread Test 124.09
Computation 89.86 1.21 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 200.43 2.52 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 131.69
System 131.29
Allocate 947.99 618.37 Kalloc/sec
Fill 116.99 931.25 MB/sec
Copy 75.48 377.42 MB/sec
Stream 132.10
Copy 125.08 914.34 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 130.94 966.35 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 135.67 868.29 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 137.40 839.51 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 161.57
Line 138.46 3.52 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 146.27 10.29 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 157.69 3.63 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 162.74 1.77 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 227.24 3.70 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 115.97
Spinning Squares 115.97 81.16 frames/sec
User Interface Test 182.37
Elements 182.37 58.66 refresh/sec
Disk Test 67.84
Sequential 75.93
Uncached Write 80.38 33.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 58.28 23.87 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 123.20 19.50 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 66.82 27.00 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 61.31
Uncached Write 53.11 0.80 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 59.67 13.46 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 65.33 0.43 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 69.72 14.35 MB/sec [256K blocks]

 

[Childs]

Bastard. I thought I had the fastest powerbook on the planet!

But thats about right. Actually, better, as a 13% in clock speed results in a 17% increase in the CPU test. Maybe the L2 cache running at 1.5Ghz?

 

[chris7b]

Well...my 1.5 was a dud. Apple gave me a brand new 1.67. so i got a 1.67 for 1954 out the door with applecare. I'm happy =) Here are my stats on Xbench:

Results 141.87
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.9 (7W98)
Physical RAM 1536 MB
Model PowerBook5,6
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.67 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.67 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card ATY,RV360M11
Drive Type FUJITSU MHT2080AH
CPU Test 198.58
GCD Loop 192.59 7.52 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 197.23 713.26 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 200.79 5.83 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 202.72 3.15 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 199.87 8.00 Mops/sec
Thread Test 142.54
Computation 102.47 1.38 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 234.08 2.94 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 137.89
System 155.48
Allocate 1067.48 696.32 Kalloc/sec
Fill 196.34 1562.87 MB/sec
Copy 75.38 376.92 MB/sec
Stream 123.87
Copy 119.38 872.69 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 120.44 888.81 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 129.93 831.57 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 126.33 771.89 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 185.78
Line 147.64 3.76 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 169.98 11.96 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 180.04 4.15 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 194.79 2.12 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 280.20 4.57 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 135.83
Spinning Squares 135.83 95.06 frames/sec
User Interface Test 235.34
Elements 235.34 75.70 refresh/sec
Disk Test 76.68
Sequential 88.30
Uncached Write 89.75 37.41 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 71.91 29.45 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 129.55 20.51 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 79.78 32.23 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 67.76
Uncached Write 70.59 1.06 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 64.52 14.55 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 63.15 0.42 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 73.90 15.21 MB/sec [256K blocks]

 

[Childs]

Congrats!

 

[nick128]

I wish for a tablet Powerbook. I'm holding off til probably the end of may or mid-june. if no tablet PBs are announced or hinted at, and no new upgrades (such as dual core G4s) etc. are brought up, i'm going to take the plunge and buy a PB.

I really, REALLY want a tablet 'book w/dual core G4 though

 

[Commodus]

Odds are that Apple won't have a tablet Mac anytime soon - tablets sell poorly on the Windows side of the market, usually to doctors or warehouse managers who want more advanced stock tracking than notepads.

 

[Wuzup101]

Yeah, I doubt you'll see a tablet mac any time in the near future (read: next 5 years). It just wouldn't be practical for them to make one as the market for them is such a small niche. However, you will definitely see some form of processor enhancement (other than just a speed bump) sometime soon. Maybe not by mid june, but by xmas we should be much closer to a dual core G4 or G5 moblie chip! I really think the dual core G4 is where it's at. Dual cores running at 1.7ish would be extremely fast (probably faster than an entry level powermac).

 

[crabbyman]

I personally can't wait until the next revision of the iBooks or Powerbooks that isnt just a .1 Ghz increase...especially on the iBook level. I will be happy to get the Superdrive upgrade that I couldnt get when I got mine last year. I can't believe they still have just regular CD drives on base models on the cheapies.

 

[chris7b]

I agree that dual core g4 would be nice and really fast. But i can't imagine that thing having a decent battery life. Maybe they can add a bigger or second batter, but that will just increase the weightof the laptop by a lot. I think a thicker powerbook w/ G5 is more likely, which is the route they will have to go with to be able to cool the processor. Dual G4's will be too power hungry...don't you think?

 

[Childs]

According to Freestyle their new dual core G4s are very usable in a Powerbook. I also like the integrated memory controller, and increased FSB. Problem is, Apple will be using G7's before they actually get around to manufacturing any.