Powerboat owners...

[JulesMaximus]

Are they all a bunch of clueless dumbfucks?

I rented a 22' Capri down in San Diego yesterday and spent the day sailing in the bay. We were heading back to the marina sailing upwind on a starboard tack, there was another sailboat coming downwind on a port tack and this fuckwit in a powerboat on a collision course with me. I had to come up into the wind to avoid this clueless shithead who ended up splitting the two sailboats with only about two boat lengths to spare. He didn't alter course at all.

Ahhh, the infamous powerboat thread. It certainly seems to have drifted way off course, and in the wake of that, needs to be dry-docked.

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[BUTCH1]

Idiots can rent powerboats too, you can tell around here as there are numerous "no wake" zones to preserve the shoreline but spend the day fishing and I see it's violated routinely. One guy got his rental stuck in the muddy bottom and was going full throttle between forward and reverse trying to free it, mud, rocks and oyster sells slinging everywhere, LOL..

 

[Ichinisan]

Are they all a bunch of clueless dumbfucks?

I rented a 22' Capri down in San Diego yesterday and spent the day sailing in the bay. We were heading back to the marina sailing upwind on a port tack, there was another sailboat coming downwind on a starboard tack and this fuckwit in a powerboat on a collision course with me. I had to come up into the wind to avoid this clueless shithead who ended up splitting the two sailboats with only about two boat lengths to spare. He didn't alter course at all.

I recognize the Coronado Bay.

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Ha ha! I think the powerboat is actually captured in the satellite image.

 

[squirrel dog]

most people on boats are , have been drinking.

 

[Ichinisan]

http://maps.google.com/?ll=32.57517...=32.69233458,-117.1474403,58.36,-118.486,90,0

 

[natto fire]

The way I figured it, even a powerboat is more complicated to operate than a car. A large amount of people can't even operate a car safely. The only prerequisite to operating a boat is large amounts of disposable income. Statistically, there is going to be large amounts of incompetence on waterways. Luckily, waterways are usually large enough to avoid the dumbasses.

I used to see it all the time when I would kayak the ICW. I pretty much avoided the main channel because of this, and only crossed it in no wake zones with high visibility.

 

[olds]

Are they all a bunch of clueless dumbfucks?

...

Most of them.
I think people should have a boating license. I've boated with people that couldn't run a can opener much less a boat.

 

[alkemyst]

The way I figured it, even a powerboat is more complicated to operate than a car. A large amount of people can't even operate a car safely. The only prerequisite to operating a boat is large amounts of disposable income. Statistically, there is going to be large amounts of incompetence on waterways. Luckily, waterways are usually large enough to avoid the dumbasses.

I used to see it all the time when I would kayak the ICW. I pretty much avoided the main channel because of this, and only crossed it in no wake zones with high visibility.

In reality the rules of the sea is smaller vessels need to get the f out of the way of a larger one.

May not seem fair, but the seas still have not been pussified.

 

[JulesMaximus]

In reality the rules of the sea is smaller vessels need to get the f out of the way of a larger one.

May not seem fair, but the seas still have not been pussified.

That really only applies to large ships that can't turn or stop as well. This was a 30' pleasure craft. He could have and should have altered course. I had right of way.

 

[slag]

I have two powerboats and don't consider myself to be a dumbfuck, but dumbfucks are everywhere, on jetskis, powerboats, sailboats, swimming or fishing at the end of a dock where signs clearly prohibit such activity, driving cars, owning houses, posting on forums, etc.

 

[lxskllr]

Boats under sail always have right of way, and yes, powerboaters are mouth breathing fuckheads.

 

[roguerower]

In reality the rules of the sea is smaller vessels need to get the f out of the way of a larger one.

May not seem fair, but the seas still have not been pussified.

Negative. Part B, Section II, Rule 18 of the COLREGS state that vessels under power shall keep out of the way of vessels under sail. The only time that isn't in effect is when a vessel is restricted in her ability to maneuver (this may include vessels towing one another). Therefore, the boat owner in this scenario is a twat and you're an idiot.

Jules, not all boat owners are douches. My dad and I stick to the rules on our 18.5 footer.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Negative. Part B, Section II, Rule 18 of the COLREGS state that vessels under power shall keep out of the way of vessels under sail. The only time that isn't in effect is when a vessel is restricted in her ability to maneuver (this may include vessels towing one another). Therefore, the boat owner in this scenario is a twat and you're an idiot.

Jules, not all boat owners are douches. My dad and I stick to the rules on our 18.5 footer.

I know, its just that the idiots seem to stick out.

 

[roguerower]

I know, its just that the idiots seem to stick out.

That's because they're the ones breaking the rules and they're usually operating something that makes them even more obvious. My personal hatred is towards jetski's. More often than not those people are fucking idiots.

 

[alkemyst]

That really only applies to large ships that can't turn or stop as well. This was a 30' pleasure craft. He could have and should have altered course. I had right of way.

No, it applies to all sized vessels. If you are in the channel a larger boat tends to stick to it's course knowing it can clear the ground below it. Right of way almost always goes from larger boat to smaller. You can think otherwise, but you'd be wrong. Out of politeness a larger boat can move/yield.

Boat renters are a huge problem, the water maggot (jetski) crowd more so.

In general though usually the sail types stay out of the power boat areas and stick to the edges of a channel.

 

[roguerower]

No, it applies to all sized vessels. If you are in the channel a larger boat tends to stick to it's course knowing it can clear the ground below it. Right of way almost always goes from larger boat to smaller. You can think otherwise, but you'd be wrong. Out of politeness a larger boat can move/yield.

Boat renters are a huge problem, the water maggot (jetski) crowd more so.

In general though usually the sail types stay out of the power boat areas and stick to the edges of a channel.

No it doesn't. I've quoted the regulations yet you keep posting baseless drivel. A power driven vessel must give way to a vessel under sail. The only time this doesn't apply is when the power driven vessel is limited in its maneuvering.

 

[JulesMaximus]

No, it applies to all sized vessels. If you are in the channel a larger boat tends to stick to it's course knowing it can clear the ground below it. Right of way almost always goes from larger boat to smaller. You can think otherwise, but you'd be wrong. Out of politeness a larger boat can move/yield.

Boat renters are a huge problem, the water maggot (jetski) crowd more so.

In general though usually the sail types stay out of the power boat areas and stick to the edges of a channel.

I have a question, is being stupid painful?

http://www.boatingsafety.com/colregs.htm

Except where rule 9, 10, and 13 otherwise require:
(a)A power driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

• (i)a vessel not under command;
• (ii)a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
• (iii)a vessel engaged in fishing;
• (iv)a sailing vessel;

(b) A sailing vessel under way shall keep out of the way of:

• (i)a vessel not under command;
• (ii)a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
• (iii)a vessel engaged in fishing;

 

[alkemyst]

Ok dudes, make a case with your local coast guard.

Let me know how it goes.

 

[Greenman]

It's all a matter of point of view Jules. I used to know a fellow that drove a ferry in the San Francisco bay. He hated the weekend sail boats, called them the Tupperware fleet.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Ok dudes, make a case with your local coast guard.

Let me know how it goes.

COLREGS are the official boating rules. You can get a copy of them at your local Coast Guard office.

Just admit it, you are wrong.

 

[BUTCH1]

No it doesn't. I've quoted the regulations yet you keep posting baseless drivel. A power driven vessel must give way to a vessel under sail. The only time this doesn't apply is when the power driven vessel is limited in its maneuvering.

Alk is the Einstein of useless drivel, sorry Alk but you seem to argue in almost every thread even if your clearly wrong. legitimate maritime law has been accurately reported here and your to stubborn to admit your wrong..

 

[alkemyst]

COLREGS are the official boating rules. You can get a copy of them at your local Coast Guard office.

Just admit it, you are wrong.

I am going to tell you going up against a boat OWNER is going to be interesting for you.

A 30 footer is a bit more than a typical 'pleasure' boat...you paying by the hour is going to set a pretty interesting 'case'.

Like I said though it's not always fair.

 

[JulesMaximus]

It's all a matter of point of view Jules. I used to know a fellow that drove a ferry in the San Francisco bay. He hated the weekend sail boats, called them the Tupperware fleet.

It's not a matter of point of view. It's a matter of rules and he broke them.

This was a 30' cabin cruiser, not a ferry boat. He should have steered clear of us. I had to change course to avoid a collision with this dumbass.

I've sailed in this bay many times and never even come close to getting in the way of a commercial vessel or large ship. There was a Hornblower boat (big sucker) I was probably 500 yards away from that was coming down the channel at one point, I came about to avoid crossing the channel in front of him.

 

[DrPizza]

Ok dudes, make a case with your local coast guard.

Let me know how it goes.

Narcissism - will never admit when he's wrong. Maybe those rules simply don't apply to South Florida.

 

[TallBill]

Troll troll troll your boat...