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Jeffg010

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2008
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You hear about all the broke winners and even Mike Tyson blew through 250 million so here is my advice to anyone that wins this 250 million.

You could spend 2 million a year and not spend it all. So this is what you do. You set up a trust account with restorations. The restorations are you can't touch the money no, ifs and or buts unless of a life threatening condition to you and your family. What the trust account will do is put in enough money once a day into a checking account to add up to 2 million a year. If you are an old fart you can maybe up the amount to 3 or 4 million a year.

Let’s look at the math:
2,000,000/365 = $5,480 I rounded up
So everyday you would see $5,480 in your account

Now don't cry that you can't run off right away and buy that 10 million dollar house and 3 or 4 millions worth of cars. This is what gets all those winners in big trouble. They start off buying the big house and a bunch of high end cars then decide they need a beach house in the outer banks anther in Florida, one in California and maybe a summer cottage in Main. Before they know it the houses have bled them dry.

This also would cut down on all the leeches I mean family members asking for a hand out. What are they going to do when you can't get at the money right away? The last big down fall is the risky investments into business that seem to go belly up. You could invest the money you get everyday but you are not going lose millions.

The last and final consideration is you will still have to show some restrain. You can’t just go to the bank and get a 25 million loan and go over board thinking it is no big deal because you have this trust account. You have to have the mind set that the money you see in the checking account is the only amount you are going to spend.
 

SearchMaster

Diamond Member
Jun 6, 2002
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Buying all the tickets is logistically impossible (well, anything is POSSIBLE, but...).

A group tried to buy all 7 million combinations for a VA lottery many years ago (http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/25/u...ge-bets-in-lottery.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm). They had several runners who went to various retail spots, each tasked with buying several hundred thousand tickets. However, many of them failed due to issues with the retailers (generally refusal to tie up the machines for several days) so they only got 5M tickets.

Now consider the size of the PB lottery. You'd need 25X as many runners.
 

Jeffg010

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2008
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Buying all the tickets is logistically impossible (well, anything is POSSIBLE, but...).

A group tried to buy all 7 million combinations for a VA lottery many years ago (http://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/25/u...ge-bets-in-lottery.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm). They had several runners who went to various retail spots, each tasked with buying several hundred thousand tickets. However, many of them failed due to issues with the retailers (generally refusal to tie up the machines for several days) so they only got 5M tickets.

Now consider the size of the PB lottery. You'd need 25X as many runners.

WoW interesting. It said "Only a lack of time prevented the group from buying tickets for the remaining 2 million combinations" They still won and were the only winners. I wonder how they felt when they realized they would not get the other 2 million tickets.

It said that the slips appeared to be hand done too. They must have been preparing the slips months in advance.
 
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SillyOReilly

Golden Member
Aug 11, 2007
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Odds are 1:175M now. Maybe I'll play if it hits $350M.

I see why you'd think this is clever, however you will not get your odds even if you win 350M.

I now only play any lottery if the pot odds are 4-1, I ignore the fact about the cash option being much less and the taxes taken out.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,134
2,450
126
You hear about all the broke winners and even Mike Tyson blew through 250 million so here is my advice to anyone that wins this 250 million....

Hey now... not all lottery winners are stupid when it comes to handling money. You advice reminds me of Dave Ramsey, where he says that NOBODY should have Credit Cards because some people don't know how to use them correctly.

Personally, I think that I'd get ONE nice car, ONE nice house, and bank the rest if I won the jackout. That said, I'm fiscally responsible enough not to spend $100 a week on lotto tickets.
 

rcpratt

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
10,433
110
116
I see why you'd think this is clever, however you will not get your odds even if you win 350M.

I now only play any lottery if the pot odds are 4-1, I ignore the fact about the cash option being much less and the taxes taken out.
Sarcasm fail. I have no plans to pay the stupid tax, as any jackpot that large will increase the number of players and, therefore, the chance for a split pot.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
65,469
5
76
Sarcasm fail. I have no plans to pay the stupid tax, as any jackpot that large will increase the number of players and, therefore, the chance for a split pot.

You can't win if you don't play. I'll probably buy 50 tickets.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,856
31,345
146
You hear about all the broke winners and even Mike Tyson blew through 250 million so here is my advice to anyone that wins this 250 million.

You could spend 2 million a year and not spend it all. So this is what you do. You set up a trust account with restorations. The restorations are you can't touch the money no, ifs and or buts unless of a life threatening condition to you and your family. What the trust account will do is put in enough money once a day into a checking account to add up to 2 million a year. If you are an old fart you can maybe up the amount to 3 or 4 million a year.

Let’s look at the math:
2,000,000/365 = $5,480 I rounded up
So everyday you would see $5,480 in your account

Now don't cry that you can't run off right away and buy that 10 million dollar house and 3 or 4 millions worth of cars. This is what gets all those winners in big trouble. They start off buying the big house and a bunch of high end cars then decide they need a beach house in the outer banks anther in Florida, one in California and maybe a summer cottage in Main. Before they know it the houses have bled them dry.

This also would cut down on all the leeches I mean family members asking for a hand out. What are they going to do when you can't get at the money right away? The last big down fall is the risky investments into business that seem to go belly up. You could invest the money you get everyday but you are not going lose millions.

The last and final consideration is you will still have to show some restrain. You can’t just go to the bank and get a 25 million loan and go over board thinking it is no big deal because you have this trust account. You have to have the mind set that the money you see in the checking account is the only amount you are going to spend.

Honestly, I would probably buy several properties from the start: rental properties. Maybe one or two vacation condos in a nice area--somewhere in the carribean, for example; and some condos and or a building in a nice city, with a good middle-class to upper-middle class work force. Basically, invest in properties with a constant pool of low-risk tenants.

That way, I actually have real income and real work. have property, build off of that.

Invest.

Then hookers and blow
 

Dr. Zaus

Lifer
Oct 16, 2008
11,764
347
126
:confused:
wtf are you talking about?

If you take the value of every ticket that wins.

Then divide that by the number of tickets.

You are getting paid less than minimum wage to to 10min out of your way to be GIVEN a loto ticket.

Unless you then turn-around and instantly sell the POS, in which case you're taking in a sold fucking $12 an hour - tax - expenses.

The loto isn't a game and it doesn't even qualify as gambling: you have to have some reasonable possibility of winning to gamble.

No, it's just a donation to the state.
 
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SearchMaster

Diamond Member
Jun 6, 2002
7,791
114
106
Honestly, I would probably buy several properties from the start: rental properties. Maybe one or two vacation condos in a nice area--somewhere in the carribean, for example; and some condos and or a building in a nice city, with a good middle-class to upper-middle class work force. Basically, invest in properties with a constant pool of low-risk tenants.

That way, I actually have real income and real work. have property, build off of that.

Invest.

Then hookers and blow

I saw an episode of "The Lottery Changed My Life" where a guy who won did just that (though all local properties). He was sort of my "lottery hero" - if I ever won I'd do a lot of the same that he did.
 

corwin

Diamond Member
Jan 13, 2006
8,644
9
81
If you take the value of every ticket that wins.

Then divide that by the number of tickets.

You are getting paid less than minimum wage to to 10min out of your way to be GIVEN a loto ticket.

Unless you then turn-around and instantly sell the POS, in which case you're taking in a sold fucking $12 an hour - tax.
I really think you're missing the point of playing the lotteryo_O
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,856
31,345
146
I saw an episode of "The Lottery Changed My Life" where a guy who won did just that (though all local properties). He was sort of my "lottery hero" - if I ever won I'd do a lot of the same that he did.

yeah, where I am now, I could definitely get away with doing local--as that sector of workers is all over the place, and it's easy to charge ridiculous prices for rentals and few would bat an eye, lol.

Though I'd like to get a nice building or two in a thriving downtown metro in another city or two. It shouldn't be too hard/costly to hire building managers and management companies to take care of all the hassle.


I mean--"limiting" yourself to $5,580 per day? I live well enough on significantly less than that per month...in a very expensive part of the country, lol. Basically, my Mom would never have to worry about money again--she could move out here to be close to her grandson, and I'd put more in for the nephew's trust, and dad would get a great deal of seed money for his various "projects," but that would be the only "gifts" I allow.
 

Red Storm

Lifer
Oct 2, 2005
14,233
234
106
If I won that much money I would retire, pay off any and all debts and live off of 1/4 of it, donate half of it to various charities, and the other 1/4 would be used for various things like helping out my family.
 

seepy83

Platinum Member
Nov 12, 2003
2,132
3
71
The loto isn't a game and it doesn't even qualify as gambling: you have to have some reasonable possibility of winning to gamble.
You do have a reasonable possibility of winning. In fact, the odds of winning for every lottery game are posted so you know exactly what the gamble is.

No, it's just a donation to the state.

Tell that to the people that win.

I don't think you understand the point of playing the lottery. You don't play the lottery with your mortgage/rent money. You don't play the lottery with your grocery money. You don't play it with the money that was going to pay the registration fees for your kid's little league team.
 

bignateyk

Lifer
Apr 22, 2002
11,288
7
0
I don't think you understand the point of playing the lottery. You don't play the lottery with your mortgage/rent money. You don't play the lottery with your grocery money. You don't play it with the money that was going to pay the registration fees for your kid's little league team.

Exactly. If I spend $2/month playing the lottery my whole life that's less than $2000 total. I spend more than $2 every day on dog treats.

On the other hand, if I were to win, my entire life would change. Will I win? I doubt it, but someone has to win. I'm sure they don't regret spending the money on a ticket.
 

TXHokie

Platinum Member
Nov 16, 1999
2,558
176
106
The winning number will be: 2-5-22-30-51 and PB 13
Pls send me a 1% cut if you play it and win. I'm too lazy to go to the store. Thanks.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
17,252
19
81
Honestly, I would probably buy several properties from the start: rental properties. Maybe one or two vacation condos in a nice area--somewhere in the carribean, for example; and some condos and or a building in a nice city, with a good middle-class to upper-middle class work force. Basically, invest in properties with a constant pool of low-risk tenants.

That way, I actually have real income and real work. have property, build off of that.

Invest.

Then hookers and blow

That sounds good, but honestly I wouldn't want to deal with the management of lots of property. I also wouldn't want to deal with farming out the management of the property. There's still a lot of oversight involved on your part no matter what you do, even if it's only worrying about whether your underlings are skimming money. It really all boils down to the fact that I don't really want the hassle.

I do want to work though, so to that end I'd probably just invest a sizable sum into my current business. Build a new, larger location. Double or triple the inventory, and put the rest of the money somewhere where it'll earn interest. The business is already headed in that direction anyway. This would just get me there maybe 10 years faster, and I'd be doing something I love.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
41,091
513
126
who knows....I know they are saying over all better odds of winning....anyone know how that is possible?

I dont buy it. Back in the day I would pick up a ticket every couple of weeks and be able to get a number or even a winning ticket. They changed it a few years ago to make it easier to win. I literally havent matched a number in a year.