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Yossarian

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Originally posted by: Snatchface
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I am glad you are feeling better.

PS - The imaginary floating sadist in the sky you worship who gave you the ailment in the first place to had nothing to do with it going away. Bell's Palsy frequently resolves on it's own. The only effect all those suckers praying has was to increase the earth's CO2 level and increase the church's coffers.

It must make you feel very special, smart, and important to sh!t on someone's beliefs. A wiser man would just stfu.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: PipBoy
Originally posted by: Snatchface
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I am glad you are feeling better.

PS - The imaginary floating sadist in the sky you worship who gave you the ailment in the first place to had nothing to do with it going away. Bell's Palsy frequently resolves on it's own. The only effect all those suckers praying has was to increase the earth's CO2 level and increase the church's coffers.

It must make you feel very special, smart, and important to sh!t on someone's beliefs. A wiser man would just stfu.

Well said.

There's a time & place to spout your opinion, & there's a time & place to say nothing if you can't say anything nice.

This is the latter, use the manners you learned in kindergarten & play like a nice kiddie.

Viper GTS
 

Acts837

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
I'm glad God helped you out.. I guess all the other millions of people that die every day just don't pray hard enough... I don't mean to diminish your good fortune.. Congratulations....

P.S. I'm going to run off to spend the next 72 hours praying that God resurrects my dead grandfather like he did Lazarus.. He did it for that dude, why not my granddad?

You have got to be kidding me. Paul had a thorn in the side and was sickly. I guess he didn't pray either?

ivol07 - keep on praying.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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I pray every night for some people to die, unfortunately it hasn't happened yet.
 

datalink7

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Jan 23, 2001
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I'm glad you are doing better.

And how about those thread crappers stfu? He said he was just sharing an experience.

I'm an Atheist but that doesn't mean I can't respect others beliefs. Respect appears to be something some of you lack.

If you want a discussion on whether prayer works or not, how about start your own thread?
 

amnesiac

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: przero
"I guess God was too busy that day.. "

WRONG. HE just said no. God always answers prayers. Maybe not the answer you want, but it's an answer.

And you know this how?? Or is that just a loophole that you've been brainwashed to believe?

Look, we understand that you have a grudge against God. That's fine, you're entitled to it; he'll forgive you anyway.

However, it does NOT entitle you to launch a flamewar against everyone who doesn't share your sardonic and comically pessimisstic views. You've spoken your piece, we know you feel God has forsaken the ones you love, but that does not mean you should try to get into a fight every time the subject gets brought up. Your point's been made, now leave.
 
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Originally posted by: amnesiac
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: przero
"I guess God was too busy that day.. "

WRONG. HE just said no. God always answers prayers. Maybe not the answer you want, but it's an answer.

And you know this how?? Or is that just a loophole that you've been brainwashed to believe?

Look, we understand that you have a grudge against God. That's fine, you're entitled to it; he'll forgive you anyway.

However, it does NOT entitle you to launch a flamewar against everyone who doesn't share your sardonic and comically pessimisstic views. You've spoken your piece, we know you feel God has forsaken the ones you love, but that does not mean you should try to get into a fight every time the subject gets brought up. Your point's been made, now leave.

Wow.. This is an old thread.. Oddly enough, I apologized earlier in it..
 

TheNinja

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Jan 22, 2003
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That's great!! Our God truley is an Awesome God and does answer prayers in the way that He sees fit. Glad you are feeling better.
 
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
APOLOGY: NOT DUE TO A FEAR OF GETTING BANNED..


I need to apologize for turning this thread about one person's good fortune into an anti-religion rant... Congratulations on your good health - I wish everyone well and will move on.. I stand by my opinion but didn't mean to be a flaming idiot...

See...
 

amnesiac

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
APOLOGY: NOT DUE TO A FEAR OF GETTING BANNED..


I need to apologize for turning this thread about one person's good fortune into an anti-religion rant... Congratulations on your good health - I wish everyone well and will move on.. I stand by my opinion but didn't mean to be a flaming idiot...

See...

Oh, my bad; didn't see that. You're a good man for apologizing like that. :)
 

Nocturnal

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The thing is, when sports team pray I think they know God doesn't have a favorite team. But have you ever thought that they are praying for their safety? To keep them safe? Keep them healthy? Keep them from getting injured so they can earn their fat salaries?

And regarding the hi-jackers and the people praying on the flight, God has a time for EVERYONE. It was their time to go. They're in a way better place than they were in now. Even though their families suffered a huge loss and are in pain. They know they'll be reunited. One day they will be reunited.
 

Nocturnal

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Jan 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
see also: the placebo effect

good luck.

Uhm, he did not know they were praying for him and he got better before his mother told him that they were praying for him. How exactly is that a placebo effect?
 

Vonkhan

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Feb 27, 2003
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what was that line about ... when something unexpected & good happens - its a miracle! but when sh!t happens, he's works in mysterious ways

rolleye.gif


"Organized religion makes a mockery of humanity" ~ Axl
 

ivol07

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Jun 25, 2002
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Originally posted by: Vonkhan
what was that line about ... when something unexpected & good happens - its a miracle! but when sh!t happens, he's works in mysterious ways

rolleye.gif


"Organized religion makes a mockery of humanity" ~ Axl

And where did I say it was a miracle?


Why does every "atheist" think there is no God just because he doesn't make everyone who believes in him rich and healthy and without problems? May I remind you that we are still human. It takes a lot of will and strength to be religious in this day and age. I think it would be WAY easier (and lazier) to just lay back and say "There is no God, what has he done for me lately". But I choose not to. Not because I was brought up that way, not because I have visions, but because IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD! Wow, what a concept! Every Sunday I sit in church and listen to readings of what I believe and it makes me feel good and makes me think. If some people can't understand that, or think I'm somehow a "freak" then so be it. Your lackadaisical remarks mean nothing to me. In fact most people that I see that put down my religion are the kind of people that I aspire NOT to be like.

So in the end for those who wished me luck, thank you. My Palsy has in fact gotten better since I wrote this. And for those who feel otherwise.......hey, whatever. You're entitled to your opinions about my situation.

 

dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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Glad you were able to recover from the Palsy. I went through a bout of it as well when I was under tremendous pressure and personal attack. I am also sure that the Power of Prayer had a lot to do with the recovery. I got better while in Church!
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: PipBoy
Originally posted by: Snatchface
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
I am glad you are feeling better.

PS - The imaginary floating sadist in the sky you worship who gave you the ailment in the first place to had nothing to do with it going away. Bell's Palsy frequently resolves on it's own. The only effect all those suckers praying has was to increase the earth's CO2 level and increase the church's coffers.

It must make you feel very special, smart, and important to sh!t on someone's beliefs. A wiser man would just stfu.

WHAT IS BELL'S PALSY?
Bells palsy is a condition that causes the facial muscles to weaken or become paralyzed. It's caused by trauma to the 7th cranial nerve, and is not permanent.

WHAT ABOUT RECOVERY FROM BELL'S PALSY?
Approximately 50% of Bells palsy patients will have essentially complete recoveries in a short time. Another 35% will have good recoveries in less than a year.

Regardless of the trigger, Bell's palsy is best described as an event - trauma to the nerve. As with any other injury, healing follows. The quality and duration of recovery is dependent on the severity of the initial injury. If the nerve has suffered nothing more than a mild trauma, recovery can be very fast, taking several days to several weeks. An "average" recovery is likely to take between a few weeks and a few months. The nerve regenerates at a rate of approximately 1-2 millimeters per day, and can continue to regenerate for 18 months, probably even longer. Improvement of appearance can continue beyond that time frame.

I cut myself once and prayed to my PC that it would stop bleeding. As it did within a few minutes I guess my PC was more powerful than a god who needs several days to weeks to solve Bell's Palsy!

Ah well, morons need religion to stop them from sh!tting themselves when facing the real world.
 

Palek

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Jun 20, 2001
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I cut myself once and prayed to my PC that it would stop bleeding. As it did within a few minutes I guess my PC was more powerful than a god who needs several days to weeks to solve Bell's Palsy!
:cookie:
Shoo-shoo, on your way now!

Glad to hear you're doing well, ivol07!
 

ivol07

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Jun 25, 2002
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I cut myself once and prayed to my PC that it would stop bleeding. As it did within a few minutes I guess my PC was more powerful than a god who needs several days to weeks to solve Bell's Palsy!

Ah well, morons need religion to stop them from sh!tting themselves when facing the real world.

rolleye.gif
From the looks of your signature it looks like you're a vital part of the "Real World".

I don't need any help facing the Real World. I face it every morning when I get up and drive to my $50k a year job. Or when I go home to my beautiful wife. Or when I go house hunting for the house I'm going to buy. I've faced the real world just fine for the 24 years that I've been here, thanks.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
The thing is, when sports team pray I think they know God doesn't have a favorite team. But have you ever thought that they are praying for their safety? To keep them safe? Keep them healthy? Keep them from getting injured so they can earn their fat salaries?

And regarding the hi-jackers and the people praying on the flight, God has a time for EVERYONE. It was their time to go. They're in a way better place than they were in now. Even though their families suffered a huge loss and are in pain. They know they'll be reunited. One day they will be reunited.

So are we to in fact believe that this was in fact a good thing? Should we praise the hijackers for being so kind as to speed those people on their way to a better place?
 

batmang

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Jul 16, 2003
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glad praying worked for you. most people think its a waste of time or its not worth doing cause its useless, but its all in what you beleive in. whatever works, works. theres no doubt about that. i personally dont pray or go to church or anything like that, but it doesnt mean i dont put my beleifs in some other manner, cause we all beleive in somthing.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

Lifer
Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: ivol07
I cut myself once and prayed to my PC that it would stop bleeding. As it did within a few minutes I guess my PC was more powerful than a god who needs several days to weeks to solve Bell's Palsy!

Ah well, morons need religion to stop them from sh!tting themselves when facing the real world.

rolleye.gif
From the looks of your signature it looks like you're a vital part of the "Real World".

I don't need any help facing the Real World. I face it every morning when I get up and drive to my $50k a year job. Or when I go home to my beautiful wife. Or when I go house hunting for the house I'm going to buy. I've faced the real world just fine for the 24 years that I've been here, thanks.

If you believe that that prayer cured you you are pretty stupid.
Read the page you linked to, the illness often doesn't last for more than a few days anyway. If you'd pray for all cancer patients to be cured, and tomorrow my mum's husband is cured, then I might believe.
 

ivol07

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: ivol07
I cut myself once and prayed to my PC that it would stop bleeding. As it did within a few minutes I guess my PC was more powerful than a god who needs several days to weeks to solve Bell's Palsy!

Ah well, morons need religion to stop them from sh!tting themselves when facing the real world.

rolleye.gif
From the looks of your signature it looks like you're a vital part of the "Real World".

I don't need any help facing the Real World. I face it every morning when I get up and drive to my $50k a year job. Or when I go home to my beautiful wife. Or when I go house hunting for the house I'm going to buy. I've faced the real world just fine for the 24 years that I've been here, thanks.

If you believe that that prayer cured you you are pretty stupid.
Read the page you linked to, the illness often doesn't last for more than a few days anyway. If you'd pray for all cancer patients to be cured, and tomorrow my mum's husband is cured, then I might believe.

See! There it is. Just because bad stuff happens there is no God. Educate yourself on what Religion is. It's not meant to be a cure all for everyone.


 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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*takes a deep breath, deletes 3 paragraphs, and says* I'm glad you are feeling better.