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NFS4

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Numbers in Virginia show Obama won women 58/42. He also captured 48% of the white vote (versus 51% for Hillary).

Clearly the coalition is building.

Coalition of the Willing :D

GO BARACK! :p
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: nullzero
Wow I am impressed by the amount Obama is winning.... I think we may hear a hillary conceding speech soon.

Not until March 5, even then she is going to try to come in through the backdoor with superdelegates
 

Fingolfin269

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Everywhere I go says 'Obama wins Virginia' but they don't even have any data posted yet. Hell, CNN shows it 51% Clinton 48% Obama. ;)
 

jpeyton

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Kerry endorsed Obama; did that just happen?

BTW, Obama should really be thanking the man responsible for blazing the trail he's walking down: President David Palmer.
 

nullzero

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Everywhere I go says 'Obama wins Virginia' but they don't even have any data posted yet. Hell, CNN shows it 51% Clinton 48% Obama. ;)

Obama had 3 to 1 margins in Virginia in the exit polling data that it was guranteed win for him.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Back on topic though, how can they call the race for Obama with only 4% reporting?
Because statistical analysis owns?

The only time exit polls have been wrong were in elections GWB rigged.
 

Vic

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64/35 Obama per CNN right now. No "Bradley effect" in sight. :)
 

mflacy

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Huckabee's pulling some impressive numbers in Virginia right now. 51% over McCain's 42%, still really early though.

6% reporting: Obama 63% / Clinton 36%
 

nageov3t

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I, for one, look forward to 4 years of mediocrity and masturbatory speeches :thumbsup: hopefully Obama manages to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell" in between being blindsided by the fact that people won't do what you tell them to just because you're a nice guy.
 

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I, for one, look forward to 4 years of mediocrity and masturbatory speeches :thumbsup: hopefully Obama manages to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell" in between being blindsided by the fact that people won't do what you tell them to just because you're a nice guy.
Losing hurts, huh? Does someone need a hug?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: loki8481
I, for one, look forward to 4 years of mediocrity and masturbatory speeches :thumbsup: hopefully Obama manages to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell" in between being blindsided by the fact that people won't do what you tell them to just because you're a nice guy.
Losing hurts, huh? Does someone need a hug?

eh. I'm a republican... I just don't grok Obama. or macs.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: loki8481
I, for one, look forward to 4 years of mediocrity and masturbatory speeches :thumbsup: hopefully Obama manages to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell" in between being blindsided by the fact that people won't do what you tell them to just because you're a nice guy.

Ah, the anger phase, or is it resignation?
 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: NFS4
Back on topic though, how can they call the race for Obama with only 4% reporting?
Because statistical analysis owns?

The only time exit polls have been wrong were in elections GWB rigged.

And just how did GWB rig the election?
 

mflacy

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Huckabee's falling 49 to 43.

Obama's numbers are dropping slightly as well: 62 to 37 with 14% of the vote.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: NFS4
Back on topic though, how can they call the race for Obama with only 4% reporting?
Because statistical analysis owns?

The only time exit polls have been wrong were in elections GWB rigged.

And just how did GWB rig the election?
"I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president." - Diebold CEO Walden O'Dell

His words, not mine. Why don't you phone him up?
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Pabster
There is no "Bradley Effect". That's just a figment of Clinton partisan imagination.

Tell that to Eugene Robinson, hardly a clinton supporter, who commented on MSNBC after New Hampshire that the Bradley effect probably played a role.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is a racist partisan Clintonite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...erse.22_Bradley_effect
After the Super Tuesday elections of February 5, political science researchers from the University of Washington found trends suggesting the possibility that with regard to Obama, the effect's presence or absence may be dependent on the percentage of the electorate that is black. The researchers noted that to that point in the election season, opinion polls taken just prior to an election tended to overestimate Obama in states with a black population below eight percent, to track him within the polls' margins of error in states with a black population between ten and twenty percent, and to underestimate him in states with a black population exceeding twenty-five percent. The first finding suggested the possibility of the Bradley effect, while the last finding suggested the possibility of a "reverse" Bradley effect in which black voters might have been reluctant to declare to pollsters their support for Obama. By comparison, with only one exception, in each state with inaccurate opinion polls for the Democratic contest involving Obama, those same polls accurately predicted the outcome of that state's Republican contest, featuring only white candidates.

While their cause continues to be debated, the pollsters' errors have raised expectations that as the presidential primary season progresses, Obama's polling numbers will be widely scrutinized as analysts try to definitively determine whether the Bradley effect has become a significant factor in the race.
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Seems somethings going on, and race may play a role. To flat out deny race may have an effect doesn't make you enlightened or post-partisan, it makes you willfully closed minded.
 

Lemon law

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This crapola baffles me. We all knew these primaries were to held today many moons ago. Now as the somewhat conflicting initial results start to come in, everyone seems to be building mountains over molehills.

Get a damn life, we will all get a clearer picture tomorrow. Show some damn patience-----scheeees. Like we can't wait another eight hours? The political conventions are still over six months into the future.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: loki8481
I, for one, look forward to 4 years of mediocrity and masturbatory speeches :thumbsup: hopefully Obama manages to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell" in between being blindsided by the fact that people won't do what you tell them to just because you're a nice guy.

Ah, the anger phase, or is it resignation?

I'm a republican... I just don't grok Obama. or macs.

resignation... I'm predicting that Obama will beat my candidate in the GE and go on to be the next JFK.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Exits show Obama won the Latino vote 55-45!

EDIT: This is Virginia.

That's impossible. A well informed poster said that Obama couldn't even win California in the general election because he can't win the Latino vote. Others say that Texas is impossible for him to win against Hillary for the same reason.

Do you have a link to where you got this information?
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
This crapola baffles me. We all knew these primaries were to held today many moons ago. Now as the somewhat conflicting initial results start to come in, everyone seems to be building mountains over molehills.

Get a damn life, we will all get a clearer picture tomorrow. Show some damn patience-----scheeees. Like we can't wait another eight hours? The political conventions are still over six months into the future.

you sound agitated