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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Ok, perhaps this has already been discussed, perhaps not. But tonight I rented the Step Into Liquid DVD set from Blockbuster. I played the WMVHD DVD on my system using WMP10 and average CPU usage was about 30%, playback was perfect and smooth, not one hitch or glitch. I then played the same trailer that this entire thread centered around and the average CPU usage was still up around 70-75% with the occassional stutter. How can this be? I mean, in both cases all the same drivers (video, IDE, sound) are being used, the only difference is the source of the video. 😕

On an aside, what an awesome movie guys. I really need to get back into the water. :heart:

I agree on getting back in the water 🙂, but is the DVD 720p WMV or 1080p?
 
How would I find out? I honestly don't know at this point, but if it is 720p then that would explain things, I know the trailer is 1080p.
 
Originally posted by: Megatomic
How would I find out? I honestly don't know at this point, but if it is 720p then that would explain things, I know the trailer is 1080p.

They have SIL trailers of both 720p and 1080p. You can right click on the WMV file in explorer, (Properties>advanced Summary) or File>Properties in WMP10 (WMP9)
 
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: rbV5
Step Into Liquid is a two-disc DVD set featuring a high definition (720p) version of the film in Windows Media High Definition Video (WMV HD)

Link
Well, thanks for clearing that up. I should have known that the drivers/WMP wouldn't be fixed yet. 😱

When it plays smooth and looks good, it doesn't matter so much about accelerated decode when you're getting <35% CPU utilization. However, the fact that the DVD is at 720p is a bit of a bummer, but again, if it looks great and plays smooth...thats all that counts🙂

 
It truly is a great flick wether you are a beach person or not 🙂 Insightful and very effective in showing how diverse those who participate are in everything from lifestyle to personal philosophy. The Cinematography is also beautiful and awe inspiring at times. I give it a big :thumbsup:

To try to clear up some of the confusion for P4 owners: The reason why your system plays the trailer flawlessly is likely because it favors the architecture and/or just needs raw mhz. Even with HT off the only real difference is CPU usage.
 
This is what I do to force a particular version (720P or 1080P) from the "Coral Reef" CD, I assume similar for "Step Into Liquid":

Insert WMV DVD and hold Shift key down so autoplay does not start
or
Use Alt-F4 to exit autoplay-started application (whatever it is, I never run it)

Right-click on DVD drive icon and "explore"

Run licgen.exe. Nothing visible happens, but it 'unlocks' the DVD content

Go to video folder. In "Coral Reef" there are two main movie files: "CoralReef720P.wmv" and a larger "CoralReef_Feature.wmv".

Right click on desired version and select "Play" (or "Open With..." if you want to select a different player.

This is not 'bypassing' content protection, it is just running manually.

BTW, though I have not done it enough to provide detail, I have noticed that running the SIL-1080 trailer on XP/WM10 has my CPU kissing 100% and occasional short stutter. Running same hardware on XP-64 RC2 and whatever WM player comes with that has the CPU at 70-80% and no stuttering. I'll try to provide more detail, drivers, versions, etc later...

nBd
 
I just upgraded from a Neo 2 Platinum mainboard and a PNY 128MB Geforce 6800NU AGP, ForceWare 66.93 drivers, to the Neo 4 Platinum and an ATI Radeon X800XL 256MB PCIe (non-VIVO, so no Rage Theater chip) with Catalyst 5.3 drivers. CPU has remained the same, an Athlon 64 3000+, so has the RAM (1GB), the two SATA hard disks, and the rest of the system.

Running the "Step Into Liquid" (1080) trailer, processor usage has dropped from a constant 99% with hitches and dropped frames to 75-85%, smooth as silk, no dropped frames, and that's in a maximized window (I would think full screen might lower CPU usage a bit more) . While the Radeon card has 256MB of RAM instead of the 128 from the Geforce and I now have a PCIe x16 graphics card, I truly believe this is due in no small part to the borked PureVideo setup on the Geforce card causing problems. The video now looks absolutely perfect.

Back to ATI for the forseeable future, and sorry I strayed. If anyone has any questions about my setup, just ask.
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Step Into Liquid is a two-disc DVD set featuring a high definition (720p) version of the film in Windows Media High Definition Video (WMV HD)

Link

that's odd, because the dvd had a bitrate of 8K just like the trailer in his screenshots. shouldn't the 720p version (normally) be lower? anyway, just do File Properties on the dvd one. my 1080p trailer shows a resolution of 1440 x 1080.
 
Using MPClassic

r9700pro
see rig in sig

23.68 fps
0 frames dropped
Fullscreen

Does it make a difference that I used the Classic player ?
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
High enough CPU speed??? DP you got some spainin' to do

I get worse every hardware upgrade

At the beginning of this thread I was on a 5900 and AXP about 50% CPU zero dropped frames use now look at this.
I just noticed your post braddah, you killed the link though. I can only guess that since the PVP on the 6800series is borked and doesn't assist at all right now for HD playback, that the reason the 5900 played it with better with lower CPU usage is because nV started using the HDVP starting way back with the G2 GTS. It was supposed to be coupled with a DTV reciever but maybe since the HD content is available online now, it was actually working for the trailer with the drivers you used?

 
Punisher...

I just tried running it again with TaskManager running in BG.

I got huge frame loss with TM running.

Just my 2c
 
Originally posted by: Noid
Using MPClassic

r9700pro
see rig in sig

23.68 fps
0 frames dropped
Fullscreen

Does it make a difference that I used the Classic player ?
You have enough CPU speed but based on my experience with 2kpro SP4 with MP9&PowerDVD 5.1 I'd say classic and/or the 9700p is making a difference.

XP-M@2.5ghz
36gb raptor
2x256 DDR2700 synch mode
NF7-S 4.23 Forcewares
GF3 64mb FW enabled 44.03's and 66.93's tried so far

it is very choppy. I'll try classic and see if it is smooth, if not your 9700p and/or superior system bandwidth must be the difference. They want XP as a system requirement though so classic is probably going to be the difference. I'll post back with results. BTW any configing I need to do or codecs to download for it? Thanks 🙂

 
Originally posted by: Noid
Punisher...

I just tried running it again with TaskManager running in BG.

I got huge frame loss with TM running.

Just my 2c
Weird, so you think it is eating into playback performance? I'll check that out right now.

 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Noid
Punisher...

I just tried running it again with TaskManager running in BG.

I got huge frame loss with TM running.

Just my 2c
Weird, so you think it is eating into playback performance? I'll check that out right now.

Definately,

I had the TM on the 'performance graph' tab.
P.S. Using W2K SP4

 
Got the CODEC, it was WMV9 VCM. Now it runs almost flawlessly in Classic and PowerDVD but MP9 is still very choppy. You were right about anything else going too with w2k SP4, it kills the performance, for me even activating player stats or reducing the vid size in classic made it choppy.
 
Hmm,,, I don't think I used that codec.
Anyway, glad to hear I got you watch'n stuff OK now.

BTW, My ATi DVD player always worked without a hitch.
So, I believe your problem was the codec.
 
This my kids' boxen, I was just curious if w2k sp4 could run the trailer smoothly since I knew the system specs other than OS were up to snuff. It does seem like I just need WMV9 support for the other players but why does MP9 still bonk I wonder?
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Noid
Punisher...

I just tried running it again with TaskManager running in BG.

I got huge frame loss with TM running.

Just my 2c
Weird, so you think it is eating into playback performance? I'll check that out right now.
I forgot to mention in my previous post, I had TaskManager running, in the foreground when I did it, and STILL got that drop from 99% to 75-85% going from the 6800NU to the X800XL.
 
Sorry did not read all the posts, so might be off target.

Here, the 1080p trailer plays perfectly smooth as silk.
Running laptop with Pentium M 1.8GHz, ATi MR9700 and 512meg, XP SP2.
I keep these trailers on my laptop for demo's:
Step into Liquid, Speed, and Amazing caves.
Also own Coral Reef Adventure.

Edit: Just check CPU usage with task manager running at same time, and it shows 75% to 85% during playback.
WMP 10
Was running Omega, but now using Dell released ATi drivers from March, which allows WMV accelleration enabled.
Online tests "will my PC run?" for 1080p trailers (not step into liquid which is only 720p) shows system has more than is required for 1080p..
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
This my kids' boxen, I was just curious if w2k sp4 could run the trailer smoothly since I knew the system specs other than OS were up to snuff. It does seem like I just need WMV9 support for the other players but why does MP9 still bonk I wonder?

the OS shouldn't matter unless it's Win98. 2k and xp are virtually the same. in other words, just a marketing campaign for Microsoft. i could help you if you posted your WMP9 settings (performance tab, advanced button). here are mine that seem to work fast. http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/xtknight/wm9_va_s1.jpg
 
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