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Grooveriding

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Caspian Border was ok on my rig. I loved it! I left it to auto, I think everything was high but 2 settings which were ultra. It seemed smooth, and I didn't notice much of a difference - but wasn't using fraps.

I think I'd rather drop the settings down to medium and have smoother gameplay than high settings and low fps.

Am I right in thinking, my monitor at 60hz would limit my framerate to 60fps? Would another GTX 580 be lost on a monitor like mine?

Wait until the game is out and see how you fare on the big maps. If you wind up with an unpleasant experience, you'll have your answer.
 

RobertR1

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Caspian Border was ok on my rig. I loved it! I left it to auto, I think everything was high but 2 settings which were ultra. It seemed smooth, and I didn't notice much of a difference - but wasn't using fraps.

I think I'd rather drop the settings down to medium and have smoother gameplay than high settings and low fps.

Am I right in thinking, a monitor at 60hz would limit my framerate to 60fps? Would another GTX 580 be lost on a monitor like mine?

edit: just as a side note, I did notice something that irks me. Sometimes when I look up or down, I get a horizontal line near the top of the screen. Not a solid line and it's only there for a split second, I'm not sure what it is - screen tearing? I sometimes get it on other things like youtube. Not a huge issue but it does annoy me a little.

You OC your GPU at all, yet?

How does the game look on the Kuro? I might hook up the PC to my Pro151 for shits and gigles. I wanna see how it looks on a ISF calibrated display vs my 3008wfp.
 

yours truly

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Hello Robert,

No I haven't overclocked my 580 yet. Still struggling with my 2500k. I know this thing has more to give but haven't had enough time to research much.

The picture quality looks good on the Kuro! Showed my friend Caspian Border on it and it looked..awesome! I was running dot-by-dot in pure mode, optimum and then standard and the black levels blew away my U2410. I wanted to get my panel ISF calibrated (and I really should) but keep putting it off.

I don't know how much your Pro151 differs from my 600A but I had to turn the brightness up in-game a little as the blacks were too black. Some of the darker details were lost. I imagine your Kuro is set up beautifully. But I like 1920x1200 on my monitor though. I save the Kuro for movies and occasionally regular TV.

I'd love to get a bigger monitor. A U3011 or one of those new NEC monsters would be nice. Have you thought about playing BF3 at 1080 instead of 2560x1600 for the performance increase? 1080p seems almost as nice as 1200 for me.
 

Stuka87

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You OC your GPU at all, yet?

How does the game look on the Kuro? I might hook up the PC to my Pro151 for shits and gigles. I wanna see how it looks on a ISF calibrated display vs my 3008wfp.

I play on a 23" IPS. I do not have a calibrated for the PC (I share it with my Mac). But the colors do really look awesome. Especially with the deep blacks. Downside is the response time, so I get some ghosting. But I don't notice it much anymore.
 

notty22

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With these setting or msaa completely off or lowering textures a notch I have no problem. HbAO, has to be off or seems to cause stuttering.
I get over 70 to 100 fps
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RobertR1

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Wait until the game is out and see how you fare on the big maps. If you wind up with an unpleasant experience, you'll have your answer.

I'd imagine the final game might be better optimized and we'll see good driver improvements from both sides. It'll be interesting. At this point though with VRAM being such an issues on my GTX 1.5 card, I might wait for next gen. Getting Sli wouldn't help much if I hit VRAM issues on bigger maps at 1600p.
 

yours truly

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With these setting or msaa completely off or lowering textures a notch I have no problem. HbAO, has to be off or seems to cause stuttering.
I get over 70 to 100 fps

Thanks for posting that.

What sort of frame rates are you getting on the last 2 m-comms? I rarely get to them so haven't managed to check.
 

notty22

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Other maps? I only have been joining quick matches which is the outdoor shots I have posted or some underground subway settings. I'm very out of practice in multiplayer and usually enjoy playing single player on easy.
 

RobertR1

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Hello Robert,

No I haven't overclocked my 580 yet. Still struggling with my 2500k. I know this thing has more to give but haven't had enough time to research much.

The picture quality looks good on the Kuro! Showed my friend Caspian Border on it and it looked..awesome! I was running dot-by-dot in pure mode, optimum and then standard and the black levels blew away my U2410. I wanted to get my panel ISF calibrated (and I really should) but keep putting it off.

I don't know how much your Pro151 differs from my 600A but I had to turn the brightness up in-game a little as the blacks were too black. Some of the darker details were lost. I imagine your Kuro is set up beautifully. But I like 1920x1200 on my monitor though. I save the Kuro for movies and occasionally regular TV.

I'd love to get a bigger monitor. A U3011 or one of those new NEC monsters would be nice. Have you thought about playing BF3 at 1080 instead of 2560x1600 for the performance increase? 1080p seems almost as nice as 1200 for me.

I'd highly recommend an ISF calibration. With ISF modes enabled on your 600, you'll be able to get 45+fl of light output which is much brighter than "pure" mode while keeping your colors perfectly in line with standards, along with a flat gamma curve which means excellent shadow details and no black crush. Make sure you do research on something like www.avsforum.com for well respected calibrators, esp those who specialize in Kuro's. My Kuro, is only for BR, xbox360 and TV viewing. I do all my viewing in ISF-Day mode. You likely had to turn up brightness to avoid black crush which needs to calibrated out. The only modes that can be calibrated well on a Kuro are pure and ISF. The rest have one problem or another and do not calibrate well.

After messing around way too much, it turned out that the auto overclock (turbo) settings in the bios are as good, if not better than what I could do manually. I ended up with Turbo 4.6ghz on my CPU with the following settings:
All auto
PLL Overvoltage = Enabled
Spread spectrum = disabled

That's it, the rest is auto and it's stable. The nice thing is that this keep all the power savings on so the CPU only spikes when needed.

A 1600p/30in monitor is a blessing and curse. It's great for desktop usage but very painful on the wallet for gaming. It always requires you to keep up with the latest and greatest in video cards. Unfortunately, the scaling on the panel is not very good so it's native res or bust. While I will hook up to the Kuro for testing, playing from the sofa just isn't practical for my setup.

Sometimes, I wish I had a 24inch monitor still for gaming but when it does work out, it's beautiful.
 

yours truly

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Other maps?

It's the same map but the last m comm stations to destroy are outside again. Some of the buildings can be blown out with RPG's (very satisfying!) it's quite intense and some people are saying it's hard on GPU's.

I'd highly recommend an ISF calibration. With ISF modes enabled on your 600, you'll be able to get 45+fl of light output which is much brighter than "pure" mode while keeping your colors perfectly in line with standards, along with a flat gamma curve which means excellent shadow details and no black crush. Make sure you do research on something like www.avsforum.com for well respected calibrators, esp those who specialize in Kuro's. My Kuro, is only for BR, xbox360 and TV viewing. I do all my viewing in ISF-Day mode. You likely had to turn up brightness to avoid black crush which needs to calibrated out. The only modes that can be calibrated well on a Kuro are pure and ISF. The rest have one problem or another and do not calibrate well.

Have tried using some LED lighting behind your TV? I want to do this and ISF calibration but I'm in love with my new toy. Proper calibration around here is similar in price to a GTX 580.

After messing around way too much, it turned out that the auto overclock (turbo) settings in the bios are as good, if not better than what I could do manually. I ended up with Turbo 4.6ghz on my CPU with the following settings:
All auto
PLL Overvoltage = Enabled
Spread spectrum = disabled

That's it, the rest is auto and it's stable. The nice thing is that this keep all the power savings on so the CPU only spikes when needed.

I can't post on auto settings at 4.6ghz but with turbo 50 I can get to 4.8ghz stable but the voltage is 1.45. I might try auto again at 4.6 and change the Load Line Calibration.

A 1600p/30in monitor is a blessing and curse. It's great for desktop usage but very painful on the wallet for gaming. It always requires you to keep up with the latest and greatest in video cards. Unfortunately, the scaling on the panel is not very good so it's native res or bust. While I will hook up to the Kuro for testing, playing from the sofa just isn't practical for my setup.

Sometimes, I wish I had a 24inch monitor still for gaming but when it does work out, it's beautiful.

Interesting to note about the scaling on your monitor. Thanks I might put a 30" monitor on hold then..
 

RobertR1

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It's the same map but the last m comm stations to destroy are outside again. Some of the buildings can be blown out with RPG's (very satisfying!) it's quite intense and some people are saying it's hard on GPU's.

It's similar performance to the first set of M-Com's.

Have tried using some LED lighting behind your TV? I want to do this and ISF calibration but I'm in love with my new toy. Proper calibration around here is similar in price to a GTX 580.

My cat doesn't need more things to play with :) Yeah, calibration done right is around $400.

I can't post on auto settings at 4.6ghz but with turbo 50 I can get to 4.8ghz stable but the voltage is 1.45. I might try auto again at 4.6 and change the Load Line Calibration.

I have Load Line set to 5 (which I think is default). The Turbo 5.0 options appears when you scroll down in the BIOS? I think I saw 4.8ghz on mine but I didn't use the arrow keys to scroll! It'd be only for fun but I haven't seen anything gaming related that is being held back by 4.6ghz esp at higher resolutions.
 

lehtv

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yours truly said:
Am I right in thinking, a monitor at 60hz would limit my framerate to 60fps? Would another GTX 580 be lost on a monitor like mine?
It won't be limited to 60fps unless you're using vertical sync to limit fps to the refresh rate of 60hz.

But any fps above that point will only serve to cause screen tearing (which is what VSync serves to eliminate by synchronising the fps with the refresh rate.)

It's not worth another $500 to get a bit smoother fps in the few situations where it drops below what you find acceptable - save your money for a GTX 680. Until then, just accept the slightly lower performance or image quality ;)

I played the beta today on my 560 Ti. It ran fine, pretty much constant 60fps in Metro, maybe a few 50fps hiccups. Medium settings, 2xAA. It did BSOD on me though :D I guess it was the beta drivers
 
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notty22

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It's the same map but the last m comm stations to destroy are outside again. Some of the buildings can be blown out with RPG's (very satisfying!) it's quite intense and some people are saying it's hard on GPU's.



Have tried using some LED lighting behind your TV? I want to do this and ISF calibration but I'm in love with my new toy. Proper calibration around here is similar in price to a GTX 580.



I can't post on auto settings at 4.6ghz but with turbo 50 I can get to 4.8ghz stable but the voltage is 1.45. I might try auto again at 4.6 and change the Load Line Calibration.



Interesting to note about the scaling on your monitor. Thanks I might put a 30" monitor on hold then..

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Epsilon-Zero

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Athlon X2 3200
Geforce 8800 GT 512mb
3GB DDR 400
1280x720 Resolution
Windows 7 64bit

Put all the settings on low with AA turned off. Avg 27fps
Put settings on default medium and Avg is 20fps

Frames drop susbstantially in the 4th area of Metro near all the buildings.

This system is pretty much the lowest you can go and have an experience that is "playable".

I think its time to take this old dog out back and put it to rest, then get a new comppy for xmas. :)
 

RobertR1

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I finalized at the following:

2560x1600
All Ultra EXCEPT Shadows = medium
MSAA = off
Post AA = off
Motion Blur = off
HBAO/SSAO = off

2600k at 4.6ghz HT on.
GTX OC'd at 955/1910/2225

With this, I'm able to stay very high 50's for the lows with generally gameplay in the 60's. I'm happy with this. I want speed. I'm using afterburner profile for running my GTX at that. I created a specific profile just for BF3. Non demanding games will run at normal speeds. Now I'll wait for the retail copy and driver maturity for better optimizations.
 

TheAdvocate

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@ 1680x1050, sig rig, stock GPU clock (900MHz), I can turn everything on and bottom out around 47 fps, but that's only outside, with smoke effects, etc. Basically, the Ti runs the game butter smooth at that resolution.

At 1920x1080, I'd turn HBAO off, and run no more than 2xAA if I want to maintain a 60fps average.

If I wanted to run this at higher res, based on my experience, the Ti would run it fine, especially if I bothered OCing, but I might hit a VRAM bottleneck, so the 2GB Ti's might be a good investment and should probably be benched against the 6950s, and at real world GPU clocks, not the clocks they sold at a year ago.
 

severus

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I have everything cranked to the max with

e6750 @ 3.4
gtx 260 216
4 gigs of ram
1440x900
and it lags like a piece of crap. I refuse to lower anything, i'd rather get 10fps than have the game look like garbage. i'm still better than everyone i play against anyway (all those years of pro CS ;) )
 

Makaveli

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I have everything cranked to the max with

e6750 @ 3.4
gtx 260 216
4 gigs of ram
1440x900
and it lags like a piece of crap. I refuse to lower anything, i'd rather get 10fps than have the game look like garbage. i'm still better than everyone i play against anyway (all those years of pro CS ;) )

lmao 10fps is garbage so you get both.

"No soup for you"
 

skipsneeky2

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I have everything cranked to the max with

e6750 @ 3.4
gtx 260 216
4 gigs of ram
1440x900
and it lags like a piece of crap. I refuse to lower anything, i'd rather get 10fps than have the game look like garbage. i'm still better than everyone i play against anyway (all those years of pro CS ;) )

Had hell of alot more fps with a 9800gtx and a 2500k on 1600x900 think like 35-45fps....rare dip into the mid 20s.

That cpu was awesome in its day but a decent quad core should open you up big time .

Had a e6750 in the day .
 

severus

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I know it's the cpu that's holding my machine back. It was great for it's time, but it's extremely outclassed today. I'm waiting until black friday and building a new machine. By then I'll have the money. Hopefully bulldozer will be out by then and i can see which brand (amd/intel) will give me the most for my $. I already have a am3 board lurking around (my father upgraded to 990fx) so if it's got a bulldozer compatible bios i'll probably go that route.
 

yours truly

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cross post: caspian border servers are up already this weekend for all!

This is what I got on Caspian Border, ultra settings at 1920x1200:

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
78304, 1010871, 44, 169, 77.462
 
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Makaveli

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sweet I haven't had the chance to play on that map yet and I booked the day off today double bonus.
 

RobertR1

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The performance on Caspian is much better than I expected.

I did some FRAPS benchmarking on Metro and Caspian. I mainly compared the first set of M-Com's on Metro vs multiple places on Caspian. Metro's first set of M-Com's is the most taxing part of the level thus I focused on that.

Settings:
All Ultra except
Shadows: Medium
MSAA/Post-ProAA/HBAO/SSAO/MotionBlur = OFF

Specs:
GTX 580 @ 950/1900/2225
8GB CL9 DDR3 RAM
2600k @ 4.6ghz. Hyper Threading on
2560x1600

Metro OUTSIDE. FIRST SET OF M-COM's:

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
8104, 120000, 51, 93, 67.533

Caspian. Start of level and large fight at "CheckPoint"

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
7057, 120000, 47, 83, 58.808


As you can see performance does drop but it's certainly more than playable. My personal experience is that BF3 can run fine in the mid to high 40's. When you start getting 30's or low 40's you start really noticing the issues and can make gameplay a challenge. The game and drivers will hopefully mature and provider even more performance.

After exhaustive testing, HBAO is a major performance killer and can get you a lot of performance. Here is Metro with the same settings as above but with HBAO enabled:

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
6540, 120000, 43, 70, 54.500
 
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After playing a long time on Caspian, i notice its definitely CPU limited as my GPUs are at 80% for a lot of the scenes, whereas on Metro the GPUs are pegged at 99%.