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Muse said:
Cliff notes on this?
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the dairy industry together with a government committee decides how much production is allowed thereby ignoring market fluctuations and keeping prices high so farmers can make even more money than a free market would allow.
 
$1.99/lb organic chicken drumsticks at Costco yesterday. You can save a lot of money on higher quality chicken with Costco.

The one thing about Costco is they only have chicken thighs that are organic which are boneless and skinless. And that makes them pricey. Prefer bone-in skin on thighs that are organic. Both for the price and giving me options.
 
stargazr said:
Rao's Homemade Marinara Sauce - (2) 22 oz jars for $7.98 at Sam's Club. This stuff is expensive so I only buy it when on sale. Costco also has it on sale occasionally .
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Rao's USED to be my absolute favorite "jarred" marinara or other flavor/style pasta sauce but the last two times I cut loose for it (2 jars each both times) there were odd "mystery-chunks" of hard, chewy and inedible plant-matter in ALL 4 jars!

I emailed the company and was given a refund and some coupons plus a sincere sounding apology but I'm now hesitant to buy it again.

This sauce is my new favorite:

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Have never bought Marinara sauce. Just looked it up. Seems to be a basic Italian tomato sauce, with optional variations. I have canned sauces like this for decades made with my home grown vine ripened tomatoes, fried onions, Italian herbs, garlic, salt.
 
Muse said:
Everyone has to eat. If there are strict(er) restrictions on labeling, people will have a better idea if what they eat is good for them. An educated food buying public will actually spend more for their food, so the "economic impact" is more sales, not less. It's a hit on the processed food folks, they'll just have to adjust their industry to accommodate what the public wants. We need to limit the powers of lobbyists to pull the wool over our eyes. Of course, that goes way beyond just food.
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The issue is precisely the "education". Fasting is presented as a danger to life or a high risk of causing morbidity. Keto is or other "low-carb" is a "fad". Mediterranean is not particularly representative of what Cretans actually ate back in the day or their whole lifestyle. And the media/public are not helping because class action suits brought precisely for stricter labelling winds up being presented as the complainants being frivolous and picky.

Legislation often develops in the courts long before the legislative body even bothers with the issue.

Nutrition is one of the most corrupt science branches because it is one of the most insulated from accountability. Unlike economics, crisis is not a stimulant for explaining away disasters. Crisis is the mode of profiting from a disaster in nutrition. Medicine and dentistry needs unhealthy people chowing down the grains or even an excess of fruit or else...business will dry up.

The road to the science to prove trans fats were bad wasn't a steady, objective, bunch of reasonable lab rats looking for edification. It was outcasts from the mainsteam who had to battle hard to win, and their story is sanitized by science media. Fred Kummerow had to sue the FDA in 2013, and people can thank the lucky stars he was alive to sue.

People actually pay a premium for garbage. McDonalds is not cheap from a $/lb standpoint. For half the cost of quarter pounder$3-4/lb, you can get a pound of frozen fatty ground meat.

Government wants to be wrong on food for as long as possible. Although, obesity is starting to get so bad that the cost of allowing it develop is finally outweighing the benefits of tax revenue from the food industry, hence there is a trickle of concessions and reversals regarding food advice.

It's not like there isn't a pretty salient fact about food that can nip things in the bud without studies, but people don't argue from deduction when processing "scientifically"; scientists are inept at 'legal reasoning'. It's already a law of nature that insulin inhibits lipolysis, or the metabolism of fats. Thus, to have someone burn fat, he logically must avoid foods that release insulin. It stands to simple reason that the more hours insulin isn't released into the bloodstream, the more fat can be burned, which then justifies both fasting and low-carb.
 
I did notice the Eggland's Best extra-large white dozen was under $4 again, which while still a rip is FAR better then it was!
 
Was in Aldi yesterday and they had boxes of 12 hot chocolate k-cups for $1.79. Bought 6 which was all they had on the shelf. Eggs there were $1.18.
 
allisolm said:
Was in Aldi yesterday and they had boxes of 12 hot chocolate k-cups for $1.79. Bought 6 which was all they had on the shelf. Eggs there were $1.18.
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A dozen eggs are down to $1.30 here which is a nice change. Don't think we'll quite get back to the 18ct for $0.40 after coupon but it's a heck of a lot better than $5
 
Not shabby

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I already have a couple of packs in the freezer, so I didn't get any. Milk was 2.99/gallon, got one. Eggs 1.59, a few other deals. I use instant decaf at night instead of hot chocolate. Store was closing out their stock and discontinuing a brand, so they marked down some large jars to 2.23, about 40% off. I snagged a few.


Weird thing was boxed fish products. Even the shredded/minced left over scrap stuff pressed into sticks and breaded that is usually dirt cheap was around $4/lb for some reason.
 
Pretty damn good kimchi at costco for 19.99 for a bunch. It's the real deal with shrimp paste and anchovy sauce. Better than the mother in law stuff whole foods sells that is for sure.
 
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