bryanW1995
Lifer
You motivated me to run mine again. I originally got 5610 but I got it up to 5911 now.Originally posted by: dennilfloss
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/d...floss/3dmark2.7GHz.png
5627
X2 4200@2.7GHz
X1900XTX
You motivated me to run mine again. I originally got 5610 but I got it up to 5911 now.Originally posted by: dennilfloss
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/d...floss/3dmark2.7GHz.png
5627
X2 4200@2.7GHz
X1900XTX
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Where is the "3Dmark is useless and misleading" option?
why would we have a false and misleading option?
it has it uses
It certainly does have uses, but not with the '3DMarks' portion of it. If you are comparing SM 2.0 or 3.0 scores independent of the CPU scores then it is great.
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Where is the "3Dmark is useless and misleading" option?
why would we have a false and misleading option?
it has it uses
It certainly does have uses, but not with the '3DMarks' portion of it. If you are comparing SM 2.0 or 3.0 scores independent of the CPU scores then it is great.
actually my favorite use of 3DMarkXX is to track *changes* in a rig
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Where is the "3Dmark is useless and misleading" option?
why would we have a false and misleading option?
it has it uses
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Where is the "3Dmark is useless and misleading" option?
why would we have a false and misleading option?
it has it uses
Because it does just that?
It gives far, far too much credit towards dual core processes. Its misleading to the point, where its down right lying.
I had a 3700+@2750Mhz, with SLI'd 7800GTX's. Got 6328 for the score. Then had the exact same system, but with an Opty at 2635Mhz and one revision of newer drivers, and got 8011. Same cards, same mobo, same everything, but the CPU and one revision of a newer driver. Ive still got links for both scores.
Dont even attempt to try and explain that its not a false representation of a score. If anything, the 3700+ would be faster due to the 100+ more Mhz it had. Dual core is not going to help much, if at all at 1280x1024. The same score difference was there even at 1920x1200, which is simply idiotic. According to 3dmark, my Opty should be much, much faster in games. But guess what, it wasnt. Imagine my surprise! Or not... I realize its supposed to give you an idea of what games will run like in the future, hence the name. To this day, there isnt one game where my Opty would have been faster.
There was a time when 3dmark was actually useful, those times are long gone. All it does it make people think they need to upgrade, and mislead people who dont know any better. Oh yeah, and make people have "competitions" to see who can get a higher score.
But Im done ranting. Have fun in this thread and bragging about a useless score.
it is extremely usefulactually my favorite use of 3DMarkXX is to track *changes* in a rig
Originally posted by: Ackmed
It sure tracked a change in my rig. A change it said boosted performance by almost 25%. Yet in games there was no boosted performance.
The fact is, its very misleading. Especially to those who just take the end number at its face value. And that sir, is stating a fact.
and you haven't changed at all either - so what is your point?Originally posted by: Ackmed
Its not misleading to me, and I dont take the numbers at face value. But good try at an insult. You havent changed at all.
The fact is, it can give a slower gaming PC, a higher score. Thus, misleading many people who do not know any better. Many reviews, give a review of a card based on just scores. Such as scores from 3dmark. Taking just the score to compare cards is silly. 3Dmark can be very misleading
again? this is a completely new situation with moderation in Video. If you are going to get hung up on the past it is your personal problem.Originally posted by: Ackmed
Nope, still shooting your attempts down. I wouldnt put it past you to throw out insults again.
And the point is, I said it can be very misleading. I also gave an example of it doing just that, and flat out giving a much higher score, to a slower PC. I also showed you "tracking changes" can also be misleading.
The fact is, games are much better to get results. 3Dmark can mislead, be compromised to give higher scores, and be flat out wrong. But hey, lower all the settings you can, to get a higher score, because thats how we play games, right? Yeah.
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Honestly, just cut Mr Apop some slack 😛 - He only had to do what he had to do in the past because of the lack of moderation. Hell, all of us have posts we made that were clearly unacceptable with today's ruleset, but we did it because if we didn't defend ourselves, no one else would. So, yeah, a lot of things were said that probably should not have by many in this forum, but now we have moderation and can relax and act civil.
As for Ackmed, He USED to get on my nerves, but I generally consider him pretty damn informative and level headed (for the most part). Lets just get along...
I think the fact is, 3DMark06 to the 'general public' is misleading. To our secluded little enthuesiast market, it is only misleading to 'some'... I don't think that can be disputed. 3DMark06 is one of MANY tools you can use to test peformance. That is the reason reviewers just don't test Quake 4 and then deem the fastest graphics card to 'X' company... Have to use as many tools to your disposel as possible.
With that said, I do think there is a lot of E-Penis type stuff that goes on with 3DMark06, though not in this thread that I have noticed. So what have I stated other than the obvious? Not much... Case Closed, issue solved.
Originally posted by: MarcVenice
12819 3dmark05. I can't run 3dmark06 I think, because my screens native res is at 1280*1024. When I tried running it, it locked up.
Another question, when I ran 3dmark05, I get a LOT of red dots, not placed randomnly, but on the outlines of figures/characters. This only happens during the CPU test though, where the gpu test replays, with the marine sqaud, and the dragon under water. During the GPU tests everything looks normal.
This is on a x2 3800+ @ 2.5ghz, 2gb ddr333 at 2-7-3-3, 8800gts 320mb stock speeds.
Originally posted by: Stumps
one thing that both Apoppin and Ackmed have forgotten is 3Dmarks use as a tool for testing overclocked graphics cards (and to a lesser extent CPU's) and general system stability, I find 3Dmark very useful for this.
I have the professional versions of all of the 3dmarks (required tool at work) which allows me to run them in a loop giving the video card (and the rest of the system) a chance to heat up, usually a bad overclock or dodgy component will fail within 30mins of running 3dmark as a loop.
3dmark also looks pretty cool running on the demo PC's at work.
3Dmark has it's uses, but as a performance tool, it's not to be taken as seriously as futuremark would like us to take it.
that isn't goodOriginally posted by: MarcVenice
12819 3dmark05. I can't run 3dmark06 I think, because my screens native res is at 1280*1024. When I tried running it, it locked up.
Another question, when I ran 3dmark05, I get a LOT of red dots, not placed randomnly, but on the outlines of figures/characters. This only happens during the CPU test though, where the gpu test replays, with the marine sqaud, and the dragon under water. During the GPU tests everything looks normal.
This is on a x2 3800+ @ 2.5ghz, 2gb ddr333 at 2-7-3-3, 8800gts 320mb stock speeds.