Possible Zen 2 Thread Ripper sightings

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

https://www.techpowerup.com/258267/amd-sharkstooth-shows-up-on-geekbench-possible-zen-2-threadripper

"AMD is possibly testing its 3rd generation Ryzen Threadripper HEDT processors, with an interesting entry showing up on the Geekbench online database. The entry speaks of an "AMD Sharkstooth" processor with 32 cores and 64 threads, with a nominal clock speed of 3.60 GHz, and the long-form model number "AuthenticAMD Family 23 Model 49 Stepping 0." None of the 2nd generation EPYC processors correspond with these specs, and so we're almost certain this is a client-segment Ryzen Threadripper part. "

I have a bad feeling I should have waited for Thread Ripper

 

[EXCellR8]

Could be, and we know they're coming, but this could of course still be a pre-production or engineering sample.

 

[nicalandia]

Its an ES clocked at 3.6 ghz, the huge improvements are due to IPC and them being UMA now instead of them being NUMA

 

[Gideon]

Its an ES clocked at 3.6 ghz, the huge improvements are due to IPC and them being UMA now instead of them being NUMA

It is fast, but bare in mind, it's running under Linux (better perf than windows in geekbench) an the actual clocks during the run are 4.2 GHz (not 3.6), which is hugely impressive though, cosidering my 8 core 3700x is only doing 175Mhz more on a lot of less cores.

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14281644.gb4

 

[Markfw]

It is fast, but bare in mind, it's running under Linux (better perf than windows in geekbench) an the actual clocks during the run are 4.2 GHz (not 3.6), which is hugely impressive though, cosidering my 8 core 3700x is only doing 175Mhz more on a lot of less cores.

http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/14281644.gb4

I think the key is that TR has a MUCH larger area for the HSF, and since there is no factory HSF, maybe its a wraithripper HSF ? (I have one on a 2990wx)

 

[Kedas]

I have a bad feeling I should have waited for Thread Ripper

Normaly this will be an 180w parts so you can't really compare performance with AM4.

I'm thinking about a 16 core threadripper but with max TDP turned down in bios. So I get a quad DDR4 channel 3950X.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Well I might just be selling my X570 Gigabyte Extreme board and memory

https://www.techpowerup.com/258739/amd-readies-three-hedt-chipsets-trx40-trx80-and-wrx80

 

[Markfw]

Holy cow ! 8 memory channel threadripper ? and most likely 64 cores ?

Drooling already

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yeah and there's even mention of a "gamer" segment with their HEDT! Yipee!

 

[ClockHound]

Yeah and there's even mention of a "gamer" segment with their HEDT! Yipee!

Yes, with half the performance, but double the RGB for twice the price! ;-)

 

[Atari2600]

Holy cow ! 8 memory channel threadripper ? and most likely 64 cores ?

Drooling already

8 channel memory?

No chance.

Why would anyone buy EPYC?

 

[Markfw]

8 channel memory?

No chance.

Why would anyone buy EPYC?

Check the link. The 2 *80* chipsets support it.

As to why buy EPYC ? Lower power usage, more stability, and warranty. And official ECC support.

 

[Det0x]

Yeah and there's even mention of a "gamer" segment with their HEDT! Yipee!

Yeah i'm hoping for 16 core threadripper on 4 chiplets with all the L3 enabled, basically a 3950x with twice the L3 cache.

Furthermore it won't be limited to 105watt like on the AM4 socket, but instead 180watt on the TRX40 platform.
Together with better binning, read higher boost i think/hope AMD can beat or atleast match the 9900k in gaming.

Oh, and i'm sure twice the memory bandwidth will also help

This will probably be my CP2077 build together with some 3600mhz CL14 memory and a few PCI gen4 m2 drives

 

[Zstream]

So no x570 love? Guessing new motherboard all together?

 

[Markfw]

So no x570 love? Guessing new motherboard all together?

threadripper and AM4 are not compatible.....

 

[Kedas]

I guess the wrx80 will be for higher than 32 cores. (higher TDP)

 

[NostaSeronx]

I guess the wrx80 will be for higher than 32 cores. (higher TDP)

WRX80 is for consumer EPYC, while it is the TRX80 that will be for greater than 32-core Threadripper.

WRX80 = bland green boards
TRX80 = souped up black/white/red/whatever boards with 64-phase VRMs, OC-capable, quadruple 8-pins, etc.

 

[Zstream]

threadripper and AM4 are not compatible.....

Yeah, I know. I was saying it more in a sarcastic manner. Do we have estimated cost for these boards and chips?

 

[Atari2600]

Check the link. The 2 *80* chipsets support it.

As to why buy EPYC ? Lower power usage, more stability, and warranty. And official ECC support.

I don't really believe the link. The existence of both a TRX80 and a WRX80 really undermines its credibility in my eyes.

- Power use can easily be set with Ryzen Master. I don't see that as a EYPC exclusive.
- X399 supports ECC though already. Which means most prosumers will be savvy enough to get the mobo & DRAM sticks they know work from the interwebz.


Warranty is something in EPYCs favour. X399 max DRAM capacity is another. But they'd have to really castrate the platform (prob 128GB limit given X399 is already there - even that higher than ideal) to pull people toward EYPC rather than the much lower margin Threadripper.

 

[nicalandia]

The new Chipsets are meant to increase the PCI lanes, but current TR4 mb should still be compatible with Zen2 ThreadRipper as EPYCS are still compatibles with SP3 first gen boards.

 

[Ajay]

Seems very unlikely that AMD developed any more than one chipset for TR4 (if that).
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the TRX40 chipset is either:
1) An x570 chipset - and it can actually handle more IF links/PCIe lanes than we knew (w/4 chiplets).
2) Defective *X80 chipsets

Anyway, pretty damn cool

 

[Topweasel]

Honestly the way I am seeing this is,

TRX40 = X399 + PCIe 4.0
TRX80 = New Platform 8 Mem Channels Gaming performance
WRX80 = New Platform 8 Mem Channels with Workstation feature set.

 

[nicalandia]

Honestly the way I am seeing this is,

TRX40 = X399 + PCIe 4.0
TRX80 = New Platform 8 Mem Channels Gaming performance
WRX80 = New Platform 8 Mem Channels with Workstation feature set.

Holy crap, that makes total sense

 

[EXCellR8]

WRX80-STI = New Platform 8 Mem Channels with Workstation feature set. (+additional performance upgrades)

 

[StefanR5R]

Yeah i'm hoping for 16 core threadripper on 4 chiplets with all the L3 enabled, basically a 3950x with twice the L3 cache.

This would mean 8 dual-core CCXs. This is interesting for running many concurrent processes which do not communicate much, or at all. Multithreaded applications with appreciable inter-thread synchronization needs may fare better on processors with fully enabled (that is, 4-core) CCXs. That's my guess at least.