(Possible backorder?) Polk R15 bookshelf speakers $39.99 pair + S/H @ outpost.com

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YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Slickone
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
From the specs it doesn't seem like R30s or R50s are going to have much more bass than the R15s. They should still do a pretty good job on their own though. You could test it out and then decide what you want to do.

Search for R30 or R50 in the advanced search area under archived messages. I think all combinations have been on sale.
Only thing is if the R30 or R50 aren't going to have any sort of bass, then I'd go ahead and just get the cheaper R15's to being with (and get a subwoofer).

R15's reproduce down to 60Hz, R30's down to 45Hz. Isn't that quite a bit different?
R50's down to 40Hz. Any below that is mainly what you can feel isn't it? I think my Infinity 10" (BU2) subwoofer only plays to 30Hz.

The -3dB points are
R15 65
R30 55
R50 50

That's a bit more difference that I remembered it being.
Output is probably much quieter in the 40hz range even with the R50s.

From Infinity's site it looks like the BU2 is a 12" not a 10"?
It's rated -3dB at 30hz. That's a lot different than the -3dB points of these speakers.

Usually 20hz is given at a figure of the lower limit of human hearing, but naturally that will vary.

When considering the costs of floorstanders vs bookshelf speakers, remember to factor in the cost of stands for the bookshelf speakers.
 

zoiks

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Do you guys recommend mix-matching speakers? I'm getting the Polk Monitor30's for the rear, a CS1 for the center and a PSW10 for the sub. Is it unwise to get a different brand for the front speakers? I was looking into some Klipsch's.
 

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Do you guys recommend mix-matching speakers? I'm getting the Polk Monitor30's for the rear, a CS1 for the center and a PSW10 for the sub. Is it unwise to get a different brand for the front speakers? I was looking into some Klipsch's.

Not a great idea. Klipsch are much more tilted up than the Polk.
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: zoiks
Do you guys recommend mix-matching speakers? I'm getting the Polk Monitor30's for the rear, a CS1 for the center and a PSW10 for the sub. Is it unwise to get a different brand for the front speakers? I was looking into some Klipsch's.

Not a great idea. Klipsch are much more tilted up than the Polk.

Thanks. I guess I'll have to get another Polk brand then. I got a great deal on the center, rear and sub so now I just need the fronts. I
 

kalrith

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The subwoofer and surrounds do not have to match the rest of the system, but the front speakers definitely need to match the center channel. And getting the same brand isn't enough, because different models of Polk will have a different timbre. If you go here, you'll see that Polk recommends the R30's as fronts to go with your CS1 center channel. And Outpost does have the R30's on sale. They came up to about $106 shipped for the pair, which is a really good price.
 

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Yes, I also have a t-amp hooked into a pair of R15's! They are great! :) What kind of power supply are you using?

The only down part is that I am getting more and more into DTS audio... I suppose I could try to find an old style DVD player that has seperate out's ... Or I could buy a high end head and use 2 t-amps for sorround. Don't know how you hook up a single center. Maybe 3 t amps? But you can't bridge them but they do sound good! :)


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I'm using a 12V Lite-on power supply that originally came with a Motorolla Surfboard cable modem I used to use. The plug size, volts, and polarity were perfect for this. I guess it's a pretty standard size and volts.

For what you want, you would need to find a DVD player with built-in DTS decoder, which is a little hard since most just have digital pass through for DTS (and rely on your receiver to do the decoding), even if they have a built-in Dolby Digital 5.1 decoder.

Still, I'm not sure I would use this for a home theatre system since I'm a lazy bastard and wouldn't be able to use a remote control for the volume on this. Next to my computer, it's fine, but not if I have to get up from my couch to change the volume!



How loud does this combo get? Loud enough for special fx in a movie? Loud enough for a realistic full ochastra? Rock concert? It is hard to belive that 6w/channel will do it.

Louder than anyone will ever need as computer speakers. This gives you 6-8W of TRUE audiophile output, a lot louder than the fake "claimed" 40W Sony Powered speakers I used to have.

It's loud enough for classical music, Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, Fugazi, Shakira....it fills up my home office with great full-bodied sound, and if I leave the door open I can hear it well and clear throughout my 1400 Square foot 2 floor condo.

 

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Thanks JFKJr for the feedback (npi).

I decided to buy one. The amp that is. It is about $26 shipped at amazon.

I have a pair of A/D/S B8 speakers (4 ohm). Over 15 years old. Any idea how these compare to the R15s, R30s, R50s? The B8s are so old that google got 1 hit. Someone trying to sell a pair for $150/obo.

 

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Slickone
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
From the specs it doesn't seem like R30s or R50s are going to have much more bass than the R15s. They should still do a pretty good job on their own though. You could test it out and then decide what you want to do.

Search for R30 or R50 in the advanced search area under archived messages. I think all combinations have been on sale.
Only thing is if the R30 or R50 aren't going to have any sort of bass, then I'd go ahead and just get the cheaper R15's to being with (and get a subwoofer).

R15's reproduce down to 60Hz, R30's down to 45Hz. Isn't that quite a bit different?
R50's down to 40Hz. Any below that is mainly what you can feel isn't it? I think my Infinity 10" (BU2) subwoofer only plays to 30Hz.

The -3dB points are
R15 65
R30 55
R50 50

That's a bit more difference that I remembered it being.
Output is probably much quieter in the 40hz range even with the R50s.

From Infinity's site it looks like the BU2 is a 12" not a 10"?
It's rated -3dB at 30hz. That's a lot different than the -3dB points of these speakers.

Usually 20hz is given at a figure of the lower limit of human hearing, but naturally that will vary.

When considering the costs of floorstanders vs bookshelf speakers, remember to factor in the cost of stands for the bookshelf speakers.

Sorry, yes it's a 12" (I bought it several years ago). It's frequency response
is 30-150Hz +-3dB. I'm not sure what you mean by using -3dB ratings as I've never heard/read them compare that way; just the nominal stated frequency response.
 

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Anybody knows if the deal is online only, can I buy it B&M? I don't see it in the FRY's ad and I don't really want to pay both tax and shipping on these...
 

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Anybody knows if the deal is online only, can I buy it B&M? I don't see it in the FRY's ad and I don't really want to pay both tax and shipping on these...

They're on sale B&M about as often as they are from Outpost, but not always at the same time, and the sales seem to vary from store to store.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: VanillaH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good $50/pair deal.

The whole polk R series goes on sale at outpost all the time.

R30s go for $50 each
R50s go for $80 each I think.

The prices kind of vary. I think R50s were actually $50each last sale.

If you search for polk in hot deals I'm sure you'll find half a dozen threads.

Any comments on the quality of the speakers and such?

Haven't heard them, but there aren't a whole lot of speakers out there for $50 a pair. These are a good bet.

People who have got them during these deals have said they like them.

R50s and R30s for $100/pair is hard to beat.

Now that the AV123 ELTs are all gone, I don't know if there is a better option for $100/pair.

Make a system with these polks, add a dayton 12" sub from partsexpress along with a cheap 6.1 receiver and you have a nice system going for cheap.

athenas maybe?

Atheanas and Infinity Primus would be my first thoughts for alternatives.

Yeah. For a while you could get the Athena BS-1s from audioadvisor for $99, but the cheapest I have found the Primus 150s for is $60 each (free shipping, no tax) from Vanns.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: VanillaH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good $50/pair deal.

The whole polk R series goes on sale at outpost all the time.

R30s go for $50 each
R50s go for $80 each I think.

The prices kind of vary. I think R50s were actually $50each last sale.

If you search for polk in hot deals I'm sure you'll find half a dozen threads.

Any comments on the quality of the speakers and such?

Haven't heard them, but there aren't a whole lot of speakers out there for $50 a pair. These are a good bet.

People who have got them during these deals have said they like them.

R50s and R30s for $100/pair is hard to beat.

Now that the AV123 ELTs are all gone, I don't know if there is a better option for $100/pair.

Make a system with these polks, add a dayton 12" sub from partsexpress along with a cheap 6.1 receiver and you have a nice system going for cheap.

athenas maybe?

Atheanas and Infinity Primus would be my first thoughts for alternatives.

Yeah. For a while you could get the Athena BS-1s from audioadvisor for $99, but the cheapest I have found the Primus 150s for is $60 each (free shipping, no tax) from Vanns.

Looks like the BS-1s are still $100/pair
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/categ...t=Loudspeakers&Thumbs=1&Filter=0&All=1
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Slickone
Sorry, yes it's a 12" (I bought it several years ago). It's frequency response
is 30-150Hz +-3dB. I'm not sure what you mean by using -3dB ratings as I've never heard/read them compare that way; just the nominal stated frequency response.

I'm sure you could look online and find a better explination of what I can give you, but a +/- 3dB rating gives you a range where the speaker or sub produces an even volume. There can be fluctuations within the range, but from the rated range (like 50hz to 20khz), the speaker is supposed to stay within 3dB louder or softer than a reference point.

It's easier if you look at some graphs.
Ascend 170s are known for having a very flat response over a lot of the audio spectrum, but they really need a sub to complement them.

You can see from that top graph that the line is very flat (horizontal) from about 90hz to almost 20khz (it's a logarithmic scale).
The vertical axis is basically how loud it's going to be for a given frequency (the horixontal axis)

Ascend rates these at 69hz to 20khz +/- 3dB. This +/- 3dB rating is a guide for how high or low something can get before you discount that range. You can see that below 70 and especially below 40hz, there is significantly less output than for the +/- 3dB range.

A 3dB change in volume is not too noticable, a 5dB change would be readily noticable, and a 10dB change would seem like something is twice as loud or half as loud.

So having this +/- 3dB range is a standard way of measuring a frequency range a speaker is able to produce at a consistent volume.

Here are some speakers that state a frequency response of 20hz to 20khz
must be awesome

So yeah, they might be producing some sort of output at all those values, but it's not going to be at an even level, especially the low end.

That was just an extreme example of the kind of arbitrary ratings that are out there. A -3dB point will give you a better idea of where the bass will start to roll off for a given speaker than looking at a full frequency range measurement without a +/- 3dB rating.

 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: VanillaH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good $50/pair deal.

The whole polk R series goes on sale at outpost all the time.

R30s go for $50 each
R50s go for $80 each I think.

The prices kind of vary. I think R50s were actually $50each last sale.

If you search for polk in hot deals I'm sure you'll find half a dozen threads.

Any comments on the quality of the speakers and such?

Haven't heard them, but there aren't a whole lot of speakers out there for $50 a pair. These are a good bet.

People who have got them during these deals have said they like them.

R50s and R30s for $100/pair is hard to beat.

Now that the AV123 ELTs are all gone, I don't know if there is a better option for $100/pair.

Make a system with these polks, add a dayton 12" sub from partsexpress along with a cheap 6.1 receiver and you have a nice system going for cheap.

athenas maybe?

Atheanas and Infinity Primus would be my first thoughts for alternatives.

Yeah. For a while you could get the Athena BS-1s from audioadvisor for $99, but the cheapest I have found the Primus 150s for is $60 each (free shipping, no tax) from Vanns.

Looks like the BS-1s are still $100/pair
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/categ...t=Loudspeakers&Thumbs=1&Filter=0&All=1

Well, thats excellent. I guess I would consider those to be a bit above the R15s, but I am not qualified to say. I know the Polks are a much better value. One could take the Athena F2 for the fronts, and BS1s for the rear, and CS1 for center. That would cost a good bit more, but still reasonable I think.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: VanillaH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good $50/pair deal.

The whole polk R series goes on sale at outpost all the time.

R30s go for $50 each
R50s go for $80 each I think.

The prices kind of vary. I think R50s were actually $50each last sale.

If you search for polk in hot deals I'm sure you'll find half a dozen threads.

Any comments on the quality of the speakers and such?

Haven't heard them, but there aren't a whole lot of speakers out there for $50 a pair. These are a good bet.

People who have got them during these deals have said they like them.

R50s and R30s for $100/pair is hard to beat.

Now that the AV123 ELTs are all gone, I don't know if there is a better option for $100/pair.

Make a system with these polks, add a dayton 12" sub from partsexpress along with a cheap 6.1 receiver and you have a nice system going for cheap.

athenas maybe?

Atheanas and Infinity Primus would be my first thoughts for alternatives.

Yeah. For a while you could get the Athena BS-1s from audioadvisor for $99, but the cheapest I have found the Primus 150s for is $60 each (free shipping, no tax) from Vanns.

Looks like the BS-1s are still $100/pair
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/categ...t=Loudspeakers&Thumbs=1&Filter=0&All=1

Well, thats excellent. I guess I would consider those to be a bit above the R15s, but I am not qualified to say. I know the Polks are a much better value. One could take the Athena F2 for the fronts, and BS1s for the rear, and CS1 for center. That would cost a good bit more, but still reasonable I think.

They used to have the F2s for $199/pair I think on sale. Now that was a good looking system for $400.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: VanillaH
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Tu13erhead
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Good $50/pair deal.

The whole polk R series goes on sale at outpost all the time.

R30s go for $50 each
R50s go for $80 each I think.

The prices kind of vary. I think R50s were actually $50each last sale.

If you search for polk in hot deals I'm sure you'll find half a dozen threads.

Any comments on the quality of the speakers and such?

Haven't heard them, but there aren't a whole lot of speakers out there for $50 a pair. These are a good bet.

People who have got them during these deals have said they like them.

R50s and R30s for $100/pair is hard to beat.

Now that the AV123 ELTs are all gone, I don't know if there is a better option for $100/pair.

Make a system with these polks, add a dayton 12" sub from partsexpress along with a cheap 6.1 receiver and you have a nice system going for cheap.

athenas maybe?

Atheanas and Infinity Primus would be my first thoughts for alternatives.

Yeah. For a while you could get the Athena BS-1s from audioadvisor for $99, but the cheapest I have found the Primus 150s for is $60 each (free shipping, no tax) from Vanns.

Looks like the BS-1s are still $100/pair
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/categ...t=Loudspeakers&Thumbs=1&Filter=0&All=1

Well, thats excellent. I guess I would consider those to be a bit above the R15s, but I am not qualified to say. I know the Polks are a much better value. One could take the Athena F2 for the fronts, and BS1s for the rear, and CS1 for center. That would cost a good bit more, but still reasonable I think.

They used to have the F2s for $199/pair I think on sale. Now that was a good looking system for $400.

Noooooo doubt. That definitely would be a good system for someone on a budget. Its a shame that the 2.2s go for so much more..IIRC they did not improve much.
 

timswim78

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Thanks for the deal. Just ordered a pair. $51.41 shipped to Baltimore, MD.

Now, I just need to find an OK stereo receiver.
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
I'm sure you could look online and find a better explination of what I can give you, but a +/- 3dB rating gives you a range where the speaker or sub produces an even volume. There can be fluctuations within the range, but from the rated range (like 50hz to 20khz), the speaker is supposed to stay within 3dB louder or softer than a reference point.

It's easier if you look at some graphs.
Ascend 170s are known for having a very flat response over a lot of the audio spectrum, but they really need a sub to complement them.

You can see from that top graph that the line is very flat (horizontal) from about 90hz to almost 20khz (it's a logarithmic scale).
The vertical axis is basically how loud it's going to be for a given frequency (the horixontal axis)

Ascend rates these at 69hz to 20khz +/- 3dB. This +/- 3dB rating is a guide for how high or low something can get before you discount that range. You can see that below 70 and especially below 40hz, there is significantly less output than for the +/- 3dB range.

A 3dB change in volume is not too noticable, a 5dB change would be readily noticable, and a 10dB change would seem like something is twice as loud or half as loud.

So having this +/- 3dB range is a standard way of measuring a frequency range a speaker is able to produce at a consistent volume.

Here are some speakers that state a frequency response of 20hz to 20khz
must be awesome

So yeah, they might be producing some sort of output at all those values, but it's not going to be at an even level, especially the low end.

That was just an extreme example of the kind of arbitrary ratings that are out there. A -3dB point will give you a better idea of where the bass will start to roll off for a given speaker than looking at a full frequency range measurement without a +/- 3dB rating.
Thanks. I knew what +-3dB was, but what I meant was I've never seen anyone actually compare the -xdB ratings. :) Just xHz to xHz and stating +- xdB.
How did you figure the -3dB frequencies you stated?

 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: timswim78
Thanks for the deal. Just ordered a pair. $51.41 shipped to Baltimore, MD.

Now, I just need to find an OK stereo receiver.

A used Onkyo would be good. Or even just the Sonic-T amp.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: spc hink
is jbl good

There are lots of different pricepoints for any given company.

The Northridge series of JBL is a popular option.

If you're interested, go demo some at Best Buy or something.

The ebay seller harmanaudio sells factory refurbished JBL northridge series speakers and you can get some excellent deals on them.