Pornhub deletes 80% of it's content

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Mai72

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The problem was there were videos on PornHub of young minors, and even rape videos. It wasn;t just a video here or there. There were many many videos with this type of content. Previously, anyone could upload a video without it being reviewed by an administrator. This needed to change IMO.

The article is on The New York Times. It's an interesting read if you want to check it out. It's not behind a pay wall either.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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I think hookers can be regulated and paid more than porn stars - or at least at their level... which takes a lot less work than doing scenes with obscenely ridiculous sex-positions.

It's also just an untapped market since I'm sure there are plenty of single men that WOULD go for it but doesn't simple because it isn't legal.

Like I said, I defer to Australia who has a well-regulated prostitution market. You can make sure things like STDs aren't an issue, etc...

Also, what do you mean by "relationship friendly"?
Australia has different territories and the way they deal with legal prostitution varies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Australia#Human_trafficking_in_Australia

Also, legalizing the activity doesn't always stop the illegal activity either.

Sometimes the clients want "natural services".


There's no magic bullet for that industry.
 

BarkingGhostar

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The site was rife with videos where someone was passed out, taped with knowledge but never wanted it across the internet or were filmed with a hidden camera. I am all for the content, but when an underaged person or a rape victim has to work harder than the guy who posted it to have it removed, then there is a problem. The biggest problem is amateur porn. If the video lives forever on the internet, you need to have the proper paperwork to make sure you have consent and age verification. The VISA/MC decision is that they control the money and they have the bully pulpit. They cannot be associated with the shenanigans of this type of a website. Should have never been allowed to pay with VISA/MC from the beginning. I bet they regret even granting it.
I think you misunderstood me. I know what is going on. What I am saying is that even before this hit the fan their claiming of millions of videos just couldn't be found. I could not get the website to offer up more than 107K videos. So, saying you removed millions of videos that were not readily accessible puzzles me.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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I suppose you were looking for an old favorite and it went missing? ;)
Several in fact, compilations mostly. Found a few on other, non-mainstream sites that are probably enjoying more traffic then they've seen in decades. I might have to join video-box again.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
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I think you misunderstood me. I know what is going on. What I am saying is that even before this hit the fan their claiming of millions of videos just couldn't be found. I could not get the website to offer up more than 107K videos. So, saying you removed millions of videos that were not readily accessible puzzles me.
Then you weren't looking very hard, 90% of my favorites were removed.
 
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BarkingGhostar

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As I stated previously, I simply loaded the first page, counted the number of videos being offered and the fast forwarded to the last page offered and multiplied the two numbers to get 107K. This was both before and after. But I also admit to not having a login so i could be ignorant to a lot more.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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The problem was there were videos on PornHub of young minors, and even rape videos. It wasn;t just a video here or there. There were many many videos with this type of content. Previously, anyone could upload a video without it being reviewed by an administrator. This needed to change IMO.

The article is on The New York Times. It's an interesting read if you want to check it out. It's not behind a pay wall either.
They massively exaggerated the issue. "I searched for young and got a hundred thousand hits, see kiddie porn!" There were only a handful of actually documented cases of bad shit.

I've never ran across rape real or simulated or obvious kiddie porn on pornhub.

I think their biggest issue is allowing the same video to be reposted after it was removed.

There was a lot of hidden camera stuff, most of what I saw, though, I assume was consensual. Who is actually posting a video of their sister in the bathroom, pretty obvious who did it when people find the video.
 

Zorba

Lifer
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As I stated previously, I simply loaded the first page, counted the number of videos being offered and the fast forwarded to the last page offered and multiplied the two numbers to get 107K. This was both before and after. But I also admit to not having a login so i could be ignorant to a lot more.
I'm guessing there is a max page count. Before the purge you could search for anything and get 100k hits.
 

Grey_Beard

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They massively exaggerated the issue. "I searched for young and got a hundred thousand hits, see kiddie porn!" There were only a handful of actually documented cases of bad shit.

I've never ran across rape real or simulated or obvious kiddie porn on pornhub.

I think their biggest issue is allowing the same video to be reposted after it was removed.

There was a lot of hidden camera stuff, most of what I saw, though, I assume was consensual. Who is actually posting a video of their sister in the bathroom, pretty obvious who did it when people find the video.

It was not just isolated to those searches. This was rampant. The story did not exaggerate, it found what it found. Some of these uploads ruined people’s lives. If it ruined just one, shut it down. The fact it was greater than one but less than some other number is not relevant.

IMO, I do not think a moderator or admin would solve the problem. Who verifies the age and that the consent is real? Who manages the records? Who is responsible when the system breaks down? We are so used to giving our privacy away so someone can make money, but this is over the top.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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It was not just isolated to those searches. This was rampant. The story did not exaggerate, it found what it found. Some of these uploads ruined people’s lives. If it ruined just one, shut it down. The fact it was greater than one but less than some other number is not relevant.

IMO, I do not think a moderator or admin would solve the problem. Who verifies the age and that the consent is real? Who manages the records? Who is responsible when the system breaks down? We are so used to giving our privacy away so someone can make money, but this is over the top.
That stuff is everywhere on the internet if you searching hard for. I'd bet money Google serves up more kiddie porn than PornHub.

PH had millions of videos posted a year, of course a few of them had issues. The article took some specific examples and made it sound systematic and then further implied massive wrong doing by talking about the number of results from bad sounding search terms. I've listened to interviews with the author, it was a hit piece and he has an agenda.

But shutting PH will just push people to much shader platforms with no moderation, where there really is wide spread rape and kiddie porn. Who is going to take down torrents?

PH could have made improvements to their processes that didn't require purging everything and keeping a database of every known sex worker (which puts them at huge risk when that database is hacked).

I've done lots of searches on PH over the years and have never seen even role playing rape or obvious kiddie porn. Of course there is no way to know who consented to what, but that doesn't change with consent forms either. The GirlDoPorn people had consent forms, as an example.
 
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MrSquished

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Pretty much my only source for porn the last bunch of years was Pornhub. My ex liked the massage videos on there too. I had a favorites list and 99% of it disappeared. I have no weird kinky shit on there either and most were just compilation videos of your everyday sex acts. Many from larger porn production companies like Brazzers with established stars in them. Some European compilations. No hidden camera videos or anything of the sort. Nada. All gone. From what I read FB has a gajillion more issues with child pron than Pornhub. I also read the group behind the anti-Pornhub movement is pretty much against porn in general. Anyways, I do hope we find the right balance of safety so that nobody gets exploited but that porn can also survive. Sex-work, which includes adult films, is a legitimate industry.
 
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BUTCH1

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Pretty much my only source for porn the last bunch of years was Pornhub. My ex liked the massage videos on there too. I had a favorites list and 99% of it disappeared. I have no weird kinky shit on there either and most were just compilation videos of your everyday sex acts. Many from larger porn production companies like Brazzers with established stars in them. Some European compilations. No hidden camera videos or anything of the sort. Nada. All gone. From what I read FB has a gajillion more issues with child pron than Pornhub. I also read the group behind the anti-Pornhub movement is pretty much against porn in general. Anyways, I do hope we find the right balance of safety so that nobody gets exploited but that porn can also survive. Sex-work, which includes adult films, is a legitimate industry.
Yea, pretty much the same here, I never searched for or viewed for anything involving anything weird or involving any minors, I guess without proof-positive they didn't want to risk Visa/Mastercard dumping them so they deleted so much
at once.
 

zinfamous

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YOU DUMB BITCH I GOT DVD'S FROM 1998!

wow. that means you likely had to walk into a store and buy them....in public.

What is that like, buying porn in public?

and porn DVD in 1998? DVD was public in late 96. You some kind of baller, picking up porn on DVD in 1998? I think the first DVD player/DVD I bought was PS2 in early 2001.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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wow. that means you likely had to walk into a store and buy them....in public.

What is that like, buying porn in public?

and porn DVD in 1998? DVD was public in late 96. You some kind of baller, picking up porn on DVD in 1998? I think the first DVD player/DVD I bought was PS2 in early 2001.
No I mail-ordered them you silly little man.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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There use to be a ton of Japanese Lesbian videos and now there are 6-7 results and half of those are not Japanese at all. Me sad.
Xvideos hasn't had a purge (yet), I think their search is better too. Otherwise PH is much better.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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dude, that's the 70s. 80s-90s is landing strip era.
Isn't that what I said? Who wants all that pubic hair.

I'd say 90s was "trimmed," lots of landing strips, but also a lot of buzz cuts.

I have a mag from around 99 that was called "Baldies" and it was basic all pics of shaved kooches. It was pretty unique at the time.