Pope endorses science

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CSMR

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Originally posted by: Meuge
"God created the world from nothing. That does not tell us about the world, but it does tell us about the relation between the world and God."
It's a statement. Nothing more.
Yes it is a statement. Why is it a fallacy?
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: CSMR
Originally posted by: Meuge
"God created the world from nothing. That does not tell us about the world, but it does tell us about the relation between the world and God."
It's a statement. Nothing more.
Yes it is a statement. Why is it a fallacy?
Ok, I misspoke - it's a supposition. It's unprovable either way.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: CSMR
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I don't believe that there is a God, not because I think that it is a terrible idea or that the "fundies" are "IDiots", but because it just doesn't make sense. It seems as if it is based on a "moving the goal posts" defense. Thousands of years ago, the beliefs in all things created by God were taken at face value by the vast majority of the population. In those day, philosophers ruled the world. The scientists were few and far between. Thankfully for us, they didn't let the naysayers deter them from searching and finding out reason for things occuring around them and throughout the world. Thankfully for us, they didn't just suscribe to "God created it/makes it work that way so just follow what we say" logic/belief system that the religious leaders kept peddling.
The early european natural scientists were not naysayers. What early scientist denied creation? They understood, unlike many Creationists and many atheists, that God is not a scientific theory. God created the world from nothing. That does not tell us about the world, but it does tell us about the relation between the world and God.
That is a logical fallacy. I think people who believe in God should stop looking for a reason to do it, or a scientific justification of their belief. If they just accept that their faith is irrational, we could all live easier. It doesn't mean you have to stop believing, just understand your beliefs for what they are.

Upon what scientific principle do you make this recommendation? Why should I ascribe any quality to it? Why do I own you an easier life and what exactly does that mean? I have maintained from the beginning that I sense in your words a fear of the beliefs of others as if they threaten you somehow. If so, isn't that irrational?