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Poor poor Rudy!

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pcgeek11 said:
Tell me again I forgot.
How many wars did Trump get us into?
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pcgeek11 said:
Well he is supplying them the tools to slaughter civilians... And said that Israel has his Full Support for as long as it takes.
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Still have the gall to even mention Trump's administration in any discussion of foreign policy ffs. I seem to remember Mike Pompeo and Trump heralding Jerusalem as being Israel's. Totally not contraversial and lowered tensions by a lot.
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pcgeek11 said:
Last I checked we are involved in and supplying two wars Israel / Hamads and Ukraine / Russia.
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Really, Congress declared war on Hamas and Russia? You'd think that would have a) made the news b) had full support of Republicans since they love American imperialism edit: and the military-industrial complex
 
pcgeek11 said:
Tell me again I forgot.
How many wars did Trump get us into?
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Trump was not a "normal" Republican president. I agree he wasn't particularly a war-monger (about the only non-negative thing one could find to say about him), and I think that's just because of his lack of interest in the world outside the US and complete lack-of-confidence in dealing with foreign policy.

But it's debatable whether he made wars more or less likely with his erratic behaviour and tendency towards power-worship. To a degree he just got lucky in that respect.


ch33zw1z said:
How many did Biden, Obama, or Clinton get into ?

How many did Bush, Bush, and Trump get us into?

Lel, I swear you don’t think these responses thru
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Clinton bombed Serbia, and that pharmaceutical plant in Somalia Sudan, and Obama bombed Libya.

Both major parties in the US have frequently been quite keen on going to war, just for different reasons. The US is just a very militarist and nationalist country, for good and/or ill.
 
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ch33zw1z said:
How many did Biden, Obama, or Clinton get into ?

How many did Bush, Bush, and Trump get us into?

Lel, I swear you don’t think these responses thru
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Agreed Bush and Bush were active in wars in Kuwait, Iran, Afganistan... Clinton was fine and Trump didn't get us in a war.

Biden has us involved in two wars.

www.thehivelaw.com

Which Political Party Started The Most Wars? (12 Startling Finds) - The Hive Law

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The Democratic Party has started a total of 7 wars.
The wars that the Democratic Party has started includes:

  • the War of 1812
  • the Mexican-American War
  • the Spanish-American War
  • World War I
  • World War II
  • the Korean War
  • the Vietnam War
The Republican Party has started a total of 5 wars.
The wars that the Republican Party has started includes:
  • American Civil War
  • the Gulf War
  • the War in Afghanistan
  • the Iraq War
  • the War on Terror
 
Fenixgoon said:
Really, Congress declared war on Hamas and Russia? You'd think that would have a) made the news b) had full support of Republicans since they love American imperialism edit: and the military-industrial complex
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I didn't say that, can't you read?

What I said was: Last I checked we are involved in and supplying two wars Israel / Hamads and Ukraine / Russia.

Are you going to deny that we are involved in by supplying them weapons and ammunition.
 
pmv said:
Trump was not a "normal" Republican president. I agree he wasn't particularly a war-monger (about the only non-negative thing one could find to say about him), and I think that's just because of his lack of interest in the world outside the US and complete lack-of-confidence in dealing with foreign policy.

But it's debatable whether he made wars more or less likely with his erratic behaviour and tendency towards power-worship. To a degree he just got lucky in that respect.




Clinton bombed Serbia, and that pharmaceutical plant in Somalia, and Obama bombed Libya.

Both major parties in the US have frequently been quite keen on going to war, just for different reasons. The US is just a very militarist and nationalist country, for good and/or ill.
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Yea, no doubt, it’s why it’s a stupid thing to even bring up, which is probably why geek brought it up.

USA loves it wars, and those wars make big bucks for the right people.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Agreed Bush and Bush were active in wars in Kuwait, Iran, Afganistan... Clinton was fine and Trump didn't get us in a war.

Biden has us involved in two wars.

www.thehivelaw.com

Which Political Party Started The Most Wars? (12 Startling Finds) - The Hive Law

Which political party started the most wars? In this article, you’ll learn about which party started the most wars, the wars that they...
www.thehivelaw.com www.thehivelaw.com

The Democratic Party has started a total of 7 wars.
The wars that the Democratic Party has started includes:

  • the War of 1812
  • the Mexican-American War
  • the Spanish-American War
  • World War I
  • World War II
  • the Korean War
  • the Vietnam War
The Republican Party has started a total of 5 wars.
The wars that the Republican Party has started includes:
  • American Civil War
  • the Gulf War
  • the War in Afghanistan
  • the Iraq War
  • the War on Terror
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U gonna mention that crazy time when the parties realigned?
 
Threads just naturally wander off the initial topic, because that's the nature of political arguments. I don't really get the assiduous topic-policing some seem to be keen on. If there's nothing new to be said about the initial subject matter for a while, it's very likely it will go off on tangents.
Just surprised this thread isn't yet about housing zoning.
 
If/when Rudee gets done in court after not starting any wars (other than with his mouth) , will he have to give up his mansions and find housing in a differently zoned area?
 
pmv said:
Threads just naturally wander off the initial topic, because that's the nature of political arguments. I don't really get the assiduous topic-policing some seem to be keen on. If there's nothing new to be said about the initial subject matter for a while, it's very likely it will go off on tangents.
Just surprised this thread isn't yet about housing zoning.
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Sure, threads evolve, and sometimes there posters that consistently try to distract
 
pmv said:
Trump was not a "normal" Republican president. I agree he wasn't particularly a war-monger (about the only non-negative thing one could find to say about him), and I think that's just because of his lack of interest in the world outside the US and complete lack-of-confidence in dealing with foreign policy.

But it's debatable whether he made wars more or less likely with his erratic behaviour and tendency towards power-worship. To a degree he just got lucky in that respect.
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I think Trump's assassination of the Iranian general and the Iranian missile attack on American soldiers in response shook Trump out of his delusions for a brief moment. Trump realized that his game wasn't a game he understood and that he could get a lot of people killed for no profit to himself. His decision to deescalate was surprisingly wise, totally out of character.
 
pcgeek11 said:
I didn't say that, can't you read?

What I said was: Last I checked we are involved in and supplying two wars Israel / Hamads and Ukraine / Russia.

Are you going to deny that we are involved in by supplying them weapons and ammunition.
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PCGeek, are you afan of Rudy? Is that why you are trying to derail this thread, so that you do not see more posts saying bad things about Rudy?
 
IronWing said:
I think Trump's assassination of the Iranian general and the Iranian missile attack on American soldiers in response shook Trump out of his delusions for a brief moment. Trump realized that his game wasn't a game he understood and that he could get a lot of people killed for no profit to himself. His decision to deescalate was surprisingly wise, totally out of character.
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He got right back in character by saying soldiers merely suffered from headaches though.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Agreed Bush and Bush were active in wars in Kuwait, Iran, Afganistan... Clinton was fine and Trump didn't get us in a war.

Biden has us involved in two wars.

www.thehivelaw.com

Which Political Party Started The Most Wars? (12 Startling Finds) - The Hive Law

Which political party started the most wars? In this article, you’ll learn about which party started the most wars, the wars that they...
www.thehivelaw.com www.thehivelaw.com

The Democratic Party has started a total of 7 wars.
The wars that the Democratic Party has started includes:

  • the War of 1812
  • the Mexican-American War
  • the Spanish-American War
  • World War I
  • World War II
  • the Korean War
  • the Vietnam War
The Republican Party has started a total of 5 wars.
The wars that the Republican Party has started includes:
  • American Civil War
  • the Gulf War
  • the War in Afghanistan
  • the Iraq War
  • the War on Terror
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Harry Truman was in office at the start of Korea - Republican
DD Eisenhower was in office at start of Vietnam - Republican
William McKinley Spanish American War - Republican
James Madison War of 1812 - Jeffersonian/Democratic-Republican Party

You can take those off the Democrat list. I was able to find by just cross referencing dates.
 
HomerJS said:
Harry Truman was in office at the start of Korea - Republican
DD Eisenhower was in office at start of Vietnam - Republican
William McKinley Spanish American War - Republican
James Madison War of 1812 - Jeffersonian/Democratic-Republican Party

You can take those off the Democrat list. I was able to find by just cross referencing dates.
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Dude can we work on your history for Truman? He was a Democrat.
 
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