Poor 14 year old boy

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her209

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Originally posted by: Svnla
I have to ask. If that 28 years old woman looks like Rosean Bar or worse (hideous), would you guys still say the same thing? <that boy got lucky, she deserves a little punishment, and so on>
Oh, and this!
 

Bill Brasky

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: frostedflakes


I have to ask, though, if the situation was reversed and this was a 28 year old male babysitter having sex with a 14 year old girl, how would you feel? I doubt many people here would feel the guy deserves only a slap on the wrist...


No matter what the ultra-pc morons try and tell you, males and females are not the same.
So in a roundabout way, you're saying that if the roles were reversed, the 28 year old would deserve more than just a slap on the wrist? Just checking.

I know physically girls mature earlier and faster than boys. Psychologically I don't know how they compare, maybe somebody more knowledgeable on this can weigh in. If they mature sooner than boys in this area as well, one could make the argument that the 14 year old girl would be more prepared for sex than the 14 year old boy.

ill give it a shot. i have 12 yr old twins, boy and girl and a 14 yr old girl. boys arent very emotional for the most part, and arent easily swayed into doing stuff they dont really want to do. girls, on the other hand, can be manipulated very easily at that age, since their brains are still trying to wrap around all the emotions smashed into their heads. im not saying that boys wont get manipulated, im saying that its more likely to get girls manipulated using their emotions to get them to feel like they are doing something they actually want to do instead of something some jerk wants them to do.

and i would be pissed if a friend of the fam was flirting with and coming on to my son at 14, and do the exact same as this mom did. press charges. its an abuse of trust plain and simple, whether its a boy or a girl that is targeted.

If your boy begged and plead for you to not press charges because it was consensual, would you do it anyway?
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
meh, pregnancy is in the woman though, which is why the consequence are much more severe for males monetarily.

kinda fixed
 

AreaCode707

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A 14 year old boy doesn't have the cognitive abilities and possibly doesn't have the knowledge to judge how this is going to affect the rest of his life. Did they use a condom? What if he got her pregnant? What if she gave him an STD? You're telling me that this 14 year old kid was fully aware of all the risks of having sex with a much older, much more experienced woman and chose, with full reasoning capability, to have sex with her? Was he in the position to demand a clean STD test and turn her down if she failed?

And who knows, maybe he didn't want to and she forced him. "I'll tell your mom <bad thing x> if you don't." She was in power over him. Maybe the kid had a gf at school who he was "in love" with in that high school overdramatic way and she cost him that relationship. Maybe he's already getting plenty of action and didn't want an older woman. Maybe he had already suffered some kind of sexual abuse as a younger kid that left him with some emotional issues and this made it worse.

This may not have been as physically damaging, and it may not have been as emotionally damaging, as an older guy raping a younger girl, but I still think it qualifies as rape. Sex that wasn't between two consenting adults, where one person was in the position to take advantage of the other. He had no real option to say no to this woman; not a fair situation for the kid.

Would you guys be all, "go stud!" if the story were about two adults where the guy was somewhat mentally challenged? Caretakers should not take advantage of their charges.
 

MrMatt

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You know, I gotta be honest. If the family had handled this outside the court system, i.e. cut off contact with this sitter, grounded the living fuck out of the son, I'd understand. Now not only is this woman's life ruined, but the son is going to have this warped view of sex for life. Not because of having sex with the sitter, but because of the ensuing court case/trial/media coverage. Idiocy.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707


Would you guys be all, "go stud!" if the story were about two adults where the guy was somewhat mentally challenged? Caretakers should not take advantage of their charges.

Hell yeah, retards and gimps shouldn't be left out. I'm an equal opportunity supporter. Women shouldn't be so against the retards.
 

joesmoke

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: AreaCode707


Would you guys be all, "go stud!" if the story were about two adults where the guy was somewhat mentally challenged? Caretakers should not take advantage of their charges.

Hell yeah, retards and gimps shouldn't be left out. I'm an equal opportunity supporter. Women shouldn't be so against the retards.

once a retarded woman whos got nothing but gimp humping her whole life finally gets some mentally capable dicking you know shell never go back...
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Your username is perfectly apt for this article.

That joke is more overused then 'that's what she said'. Every single time the guy posts it's 'oh your username is sure fitting hahahaimsooriginalhahaha'
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Nice..
That sure took long enough.


Originally posted by: AreaCode707
A 14 year old boy doesn't have the cognitive abilities and possibly doesn't have the knowledge to judge how this is going to affect the rest of his life. Did they use a condom? What if he got her pregnant? What if she gave him an STD? You're telling me that this 14 year old kid was fully aware of all the risks of having sex with a much older, much more experienced woman and chose, with full reasoning capability, to have sex with her? Was he in the position to demand a clean STD test and turn her down if she failed?
I think King Tut was around that age when he died. I'd bet that before that, he had a harem.

Hell, plenty of adults can't make decent decisions....such as a babysitter willing to have sex with a minor.


 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: I Saw OJ
Nice..
That sure took long enough.


Originally posted by: AreaCode707
A 14 year old boy doesn't have the cognitive abilities and possibly doesn't have the knowledge to judge how this is going to affect the rest of his life. Did they use a condom? What if he got her pregnant? What if she gave him an STD? You're telling me that this 14 year old kid was fully aware of all the risks of having sex with a much older, much more experienced woman and chose, with full reasoning capability, to have sex with her? Was he in the position to demand a clean STD test and turn her down if she failed?
I think King Tut was around that age when he died. I'd bet that before that, he had a harem.

Hell, plenty of adults can't make decent decisions....such as a babysitter willing to have sex with a minor.

Honestly, I advocate a younger age of responsibility for life in general. I think kids are capable of making their own decisions about love, marriage, drinking, military, etc around 16 but we train them not to be, artificially extending adolescence and ignorance way beyond what has typically been the cultural standard throughout history.

But as long as we're extending that period of irresponsibility and emphasizing that kids aren't able to make their own decisions, as long as that's how they view themselves, we're creating a situation where most truly AREN'T able to make those decisions. So in this situation, I think that the babysitter was guilty of child rape, since he was not, either legally, culturally or (trained) mentally an adult.
 

sourceninja

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
It sounds all funny and everything, but I'm sure it was tramatic for the 14 year old. Not that it probably didn't feel good on his pee-pee, but it would be tramatic to be manipulated and taken advantage of.

At 14 I was doing everything I could to see a even see a boob on a regular basis. A vagina would of been amazing.
 

Baked

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First it's the teachers, now the babysitters. What's next? I hope it's nurses. Nuns would be hot too.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
A 14 year old boy doesn't have the cognitive abilities and possibly doesn't have the knowledge to judge how this is going to affect the rest of his life. Did they use a condom? What if he got her pregnant? What if she gave him an STD? You're telling me that this 14 year old kid was fully aware of all the risks of having sex with a much older, much more experienced woman and chose, with full reasoning capability, to have sex with her? Was he in the position to demand a clean STD test and turn her down if she failed?

That's a fairly broad generalization, no? At 14 I can say I absolutely had the cognitive abilities and knowledge to understand sex and pregnancy. Did I understand the full impact that having a child would have at that point in my life? To the best of my ability I did. Obviously know I understand it a bit better being 10 years older, but you could use that argument with any thought process a 14 year old has.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: AreaCode707
A 14 year old boy doesn't have the cognitive abilities and possibly doesn't have the knowledge to judge how this is going to affect the rest of his life. Did they use a condom? What if he got her pregnant? What if she gave him an STD? You're telling me that this 14 year old kid was fully aware of all the risks of having sex with a much older, much more experienced woman and chose, with full reasoning capability, to have sex with her? Was he in the position to demand a clean STD test and turn her down if she failed?

That's a fairly broad generalization, no? At 14 I can say I absolutely had the cognitive abilities and knowledge to understand sex and pregnancy. Did I understand the full impact that having a child would have at that point in my life? To the best of my ability I did. Obviously know I understand it a bit better being 10 years older, but you could use that argument with any thought process a 14 year old has.

I don't think they have a full grasp on it quite yet. Yes they know how it all works, but the average (and maybe you weren't average) 14 year old doesn't know all about it. By now he knows about STDs and condoms and such, but doesn't grasp the full ramifications of possibly having a kid. They may have some concept of money, but they usually don't know how much a kid costs and how much that will affect them through the rest of their life. It may be a generalization, but that's because this 14 year old kid probably falls into the 'general' or 'average' category (statistically).
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: AreaCode707
Honestly, I advocate a younger age of responsibility for life in general. I think kids are capable of making their own decisions about love, marriage, drinking, military, etc around 16 but we train them not to be, artificially extending adolescence and ignorance way beyond what has typically been the cultural standard throughout history.

But as long as we're extending that period of irresponsibility and emphasizing that kids aren't able to make their own decisions, as long as that's how they view themselves, we're creating a situation where most truly AREN'T able to make those decisions. So in this situation, I think that the babysitter was guilty of child rape, since he was not, either legally, culturally or (trained) mentally an adult.

Quoting this, because you're raising an interesting point.

You could almost argue that we as a society have made this situation a "problem" and a "crime" only because we've distorted the cultural norm far beyond what it has historically been. Funny how human nature both remains constant, and has a way of asserting itself.
 

compuwiz1

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I can vividly remember discovery of my sexuality at that age and if there was any possibility of that happening to me, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat. I would have just enjoyed it then kept my mouth shut. I had a similar encounter with a neighbor woman who was married to a cop, who just happened to be away on shift. I went over to take care of some yard chores for her and we somehow started fooling around, then a couple times more. It was wonderful. Nobody ever found out because nobody talked. I never felt abused and she taught me a lot. :)
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: AreaCode707


Would you guys be all, "go stud!" if the story were about two adults where the guy was somewhat mentally challenged? Caretakers should not take advantage of their charges.

Hell yeah, retards and gimps shouldn't be left out. I'm an equal opportunity supporter. Women shouldn't be so against the retards.

I LOL'ed. :D
 

zeruty

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I didn't KNOW everything I needed to at 14, but I could have definitely understood it had it been taught to me. I didn't lose my virginity until I was 18, and I feel like a failure because of that... so much time wasted! I wish I had some 28 year old baby-sitter to boink when I was 14.

What if this had occurred in one of those Canadian provinces where the age of consent is 14? Would it be as appalling to those of you who think it is messed up? If so you might want to move up there cause you could probably find 28/14 relationships quite readily, seeing as they are legal there. Then you can be outraged all you want...
 

RaistlinZ

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Just to be clear, was the baby sitter hired specifically to watch to 14 year old, or a younger child?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
It sounds all funny and everything, but I'm sure it was tramatic for the 14 year old. Not that it probably didn't feel good on his pee-pee, but it would be tramatic to be manipulated and taken advantage of.

Being taken advantage of was the best part.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AstroManLuca

And yes, it's also kind of funny how a 28yo guy having (consensual) sex with a 14yo girl makes him a total sicko, but if the genders are reversed it's like "way to go kid!". But that just speaks to how much more sexual desire men have than women. Sorry ladies.

That's just us saying dumb shit.

Though I think we all know this girl is nuts and not right in the head. "and asked the boy?s mother for her blessing, according to KXLY. " Who in their right mind at the age of 28 dare ask a parent of a 14 year old their blessing?

COO COO.
 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I can vividly remember discovery of my sexuality at that age and if there was any possibility of that happening to me, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat. I would have just enjoyed it then kept my mouth shut. I had a similar encounter with a neighbor woman who was married to a cop, who just happened to be away on shift. I went over to take care of some yard chores for her and we somehow started fooling around, then a couple times more. It was wonderful. Nobody ever found out because nobody talked. I never felt abused and she taught me a lot. :)

apparently she taught you to have sex with another man's wife and feel ok about it

 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I can vividly remember discovery of my sexuality at that age and if there was any possibility of that happening to me, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat. I would have just enjoyed it then kept my mouth shut. I had a similar encounter with a neighbor woman who was married to a cop, who just happened to be away on shift. I went over to take care of some yard chores for her and we somehow started fooling around, then a couple times more. It was wonderful. Nobody ever found out because nobody talked. I never felt abused and she taught me a lot. :)

Yeah dude....little hard to believe now mate.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: TheNinja
It sounds all funny and everything, but I'm sure it was tramatic for the 14 year old. Not that it probably didn't feel good on his pee-pee, but it would be tramatic to be manipulated and taken advantage of.

If someone other than yourself is making your "pee-pee" do the happy squirt then you are not being manipulated nor taken advantage of when you are 14 years old.
 

ChanHo78

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when I was 14 I would have banged her a lot more times than 4.... Maybe 4 times every 5 minutes. I was a horney little fucker.