Polygraph tests are so much BS

[shortylickens]

In other news, sideshow Bob wants to kill Bart.

 

[paulney]

wait...:hmm:

maybe it was your accent that tipped them off?

Actually, no, the job required flawless command of English and Russian languages and near-absence of accent. They commended me on both :sneaky:

 

[preslove]

perhaps you should have stopped supporting terrists.

srsly

Mods, could you ban the terrist OP?

 

[Sukhoi]

Actually, no, the job required flawless command of English and Russian languages and near-absence of accent. They commended me on both :sneaky:

:sneaky:

 

[KK]

Do you think they would tell you the exact reason for failure? Seems like they would keep it to themselves. I think the terrorist bit was just a scape goat for the real issue, midget fetishes.

 

[Lifted]

You probably got nailed on the drug question. They gave you a BS reason so you wouldn't learn how to beat the test if you were to ever apply for a similar position again.

 

[Alone]

For top secret there's an extremely comprehensive background check, interviews with friends and neighbors, psychiatric evaluation, and a polygraph (depending on what its for there may be slight differences)

Not in all cases. Clearances of Top Secret and higher are often issued without these tests.

 

[cKGunslinger]

It depends what level you are getting. For the lowest level, commonly called public trust its basically a criminal background check.

For secret there is a comprehensive background check

For top secret there's an extremely comprehensive background check, interviews with friends and neighbors, psychiatric evaluation, and a polygraph (depending on what its for there may be slight differences)

"Standard" TS doesn't require a poly or psyc eval. Just an SSBI.

Poly's are only required for special circumstances or customers.

 

[sourceninja]

I once passed a polygraph when I lied on the control questions. The guy told me to say yes to every question as a control. The armband was cutting on my circulation and hurt really bad. He asked me if I was standing and I said yes.

The result was "It was inconclusive"

 

[Eli]

Yes, they start out usually with an EBI (extended background check), and then you go to an initial polygraph. After that you usually get a PPR (phased periodic reinvestigation) and periodic polygraphs. At least that's how it was when I was working for the man.

Jeebus.

They need to do this type of shit in order to become a cop, too.

 

[Sinsear]

I passed the one I took for my job.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Jeebus.

They need to do this type of shit in order to become a cop, too.

I'd rather know they can think than know they're consistent.

 

[Eli]

I'd rather know they can think than know they're consistent.

Well yeah, I agree. I just meant.. rigorous testing, in general. Find out what kind of person they really are... lol.

 

[Ackmed]

Just recently passed one, even with some off the wall questions regarding sex with small children. I am a very even keel person though, with a resting heart rate of under 40. Just told the truth, so nothing to get me worked up about.

 

[Born2bwire]

My money is on that with these kind of background checks they probably wouldn't reveal the real reason why you failed. I'm surprised that they gave you a reason at all. I would have expected them to only say pass or fail.

 

[Train]

My money is on that with these kind of background checks they probably wouldn't reveal the real reason why you failed. I'm surprised that they gave you a reason at all. I would have expected them to only say pass or fail.

The background check probably revealed he likes to rant online about shit he shouldn't be ranting about.

 

[Scarpozzi]

So are paternity tests. Soooo bogus!

 

[Alone]

My money is on that with these kind of background checks they probably wouldn't reveal the real reason why you failed. I'm surprised that they gave you a reason at all. I would have expected them to only say pass or fail.

Pretty much this. There's no reason to say why a person failed, even less so if it has anything to do with terrorism. That makes no sense.

 

[DrPizza]

A polygraph has never caught a spy. Looks like they have a 100% failure rate of detecting spies, and a pretty high rate of false positives. Completely useless.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

It depends what level you are getting. For the lowest level, commonly called public trust its basically a criminal background check.

For secret there is a comprehensive background check

For top secret there's an extremely comprehensive background check, interviews with friends and neighbors, psychiatric evaluation, and a polygraph (depending on what its for there may be slight differences)

It depends both on what govt agency, and also what position you're applying for I think. For the Social Security Administration, at least for the entry level positions (ie. claims representatives) there's no polygraph but there are a number of background checks done.

As far as I know in the US the polygraph is mainly used for govt. jobs, particularly sensitive military and also intelligence-related ones.

 

[Leros]

When you become a terrorist in 20 years, you'll remember that test and be amazed at how accurate it was.

Terrorist! *death stare*

 

[disappoint]

When you become a terrorist in 20 years, you'll remember that test and be amazed at how accurate it was.

Terrorist! *death stare*

You're way out of line there don't you think?




It didn't take 20 years it took 20 minutes. He's a terrorist now because he was denied some job for no good reason. Stupidity: Creating terrorists since 1999.

 

[bignateyk]

I didn't pass the test - they said I had a positive reaction to 'terrorism'.

You dimwits, you couldn't administer the damn test, and you wouldn't notice a spy even if he took the equipment from this room. Of all the things that I did potentially have a reaction to, you choose terrorism?

WTF. I'm at a loss for words.

Well, their loss. The job would involve a ton of commute anyway, and it wasn't all that great paying. It just sucks to pass all the interviews and multi-hour tests, and get denied by a fatass who probably shorted out the circuits with his fat fingers from all the burgers he has every day.

Arghghg...

haha, I failed mine for the exact same reason. Although I already had my clearance, so I just had to go back and take the test another time and I managed to pass on the 2nd go around.

The test is complete bullshit though.

edit: I think the exact question I failed on was "Have you ever committed an act of espionage against the united states of america.

 

[ichy]

It depends what level you are getting. For the lowest level, commonly called public trust its basically a criminal background check.

For secret there is a comprehensive background check

For top secret there's an extremely comprehensive background check, interviews with friends and neighbors, psychiatric evaluation, and a polygraph (depending on what its for there may be slight differences)

Top Secret doesn't necessarily involve a polygraph.

The biggest thing they look for in a public trust clearance is money issues. I've gone through that investigation a couple times, and the only thing that ever came up was an old electricity bill that I forgot to pay after I moved and was sent to collections.

 

[alkemyst]

So who do you know that's into possible terrorism?

That's pretty interesting.