Polygraph tests are so much BS

[paulney]

I didn't pass the test - they said I had a positive reaction to 'terrorism'.

You dimwits, you couldn't administer the damn test, and you wouldn't notice a spy even if he took the equipment from this room. Of all the things that I did potentially have a reaction to, you choose terrorism?

WTF. I'm at a loss for words.

Well, their loss. The job would involve a ton of commute anyway, and it wasn't all that great paying. It just sucks to pass all the interviews and multi-hour tests, and get denied by a fatass who probably shorted out the circuits with his fat fingers from all the burgers he has every day.

Arghghg...

 

[lxskllr]

Yup, polygraph is a waste of time and money.

 

[TheVrolok]

Well, you're on the list now. To be honest, it seems that those who pass them are just better liars (for whatever reason).

 

[paulney]

Well, you're on the list now.

Don't care. After what I've seen I lost all faith in the security clearances and government operations. It's a miracle we have not yet been completely outdone by any other foreign government. Probably because they also hire droves of incompetent fools.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

What kind of questions did they ask you with regards to terrorism?

 

[OCGuy]

No they arent.

 

[frostedflakes]

So what all is involved in getting a security clearance anyway? Or are you not allowed to talk about it? I'd also be interested in knowing what kind of questions they ask.

I'd probably fail one just because I'm such a nervous and high-strung person.

 

[ussfletcher]

I don't like them either, but meh.

 

[paulney]

What kind of questions did they ask you with regards to terrorism?

Whether I was involve with any terrorist organizations, knew anyone supporting them or somehow aided any (money or otherwise). That was so inane, I didn't even concentrate on it for more than split second.

Seriously, there were things that concerned me much more, e,g.: was I in the presence of someone taking drugs - well, technically, yes, I went to Burning Man three times.

But no, I'm a goddamn terrist now.

 

[Drako]

I used to work for a government contractor, back in the 80's. I had to take a polygraph every two years to qualify for the job I was working. I had been working on this job for almost 10 years, and the last polygraph I failed. I just got tired of tho whole run around and stress and went to work for a real company

 

[paulney]

So what all is involved in getting a security clearance anyway? Or are you not allowed to talk about it? I'd also be interested in knowing what kind of questions they ask.

I'd probably fail one just because I'm such a nervous and high-strung person.

A government agency administers one for you if you apply for a sensitive job, or, your employer applies for one on your behalf to have it administered, if you need it to work with sensitive materials. You can't apply yourself.

 

[LumbergTech]

lol.......terrorist!!!!!

 

[ussfletcher]

So what all is involved in getting a security clearance anyway? Or are you not allowed to talk about it? I'd also be interested in knowing what kind of questions they ask.

I'd probably fail one just because I'm such a nervous and high-strung person.

It depends what level you are getting. For the lowest level, commonly called public trust its basically a criminal background check.

For secret there is a comprehensive background check

For top secret there's an extremely comprehensive background check, interviews with friends and neighbors, psychiatric evaluation, and a polygraph (depending on what its for there may be slight differences)

 

[amdhunter]

Who doesn't love terrorism? It's made so many Republicans rich beyond their wildest dreams.

 

[frostedflakes]

A government agency administers one for you if you apply for a sensitive job, or, your employer applies for one on your behalf to have it administered, if you need it to work with sensitive materials. You can't apply yourself.

Well I've been looking at jobs lately and some of them would probably require security clearance. Civilian contractor jobs, stuff like that. Was just curious what all it involved, I've yet to really look into it. I'd assume background check, the polygraph, stuff like that.

 

[Drako]

Well I've been looking at jobs lately and some of them would probably require security clearance. Civilian contractor jobs, stuff like that. Was just curious what all it involved, I've yet to really look into it. I'd assume background check, the polygraph, stuff like that.

Yes, they start out usually with an EBI (extended background check), and then you go to an initial polygraph. After that you usually get a PPR (phased periodic reinvestigation) and periodic polygraphs. At least that's how it was when I was working for the man.

 

[Sukhoi]

And yet defense contractors hire foreigners out the wazoo. I about choked when I was introduced to the fully-accented Russian that was a software manager. There were also more Chinese citizens than I could count.

 

[disappoint]

There is a reason polygraph tests are NOT admissible in court. You said you didn't really want the job as its a long commute and pay is low but if you really wanted the job you should sue. You only failed because the fatass is discriminating against non fatasses. Everyone knows this.

 

[OCGuy]

There is a reason polygraph tests are NOT admissible in court. You said you didn't really want the job as its a long commute and pay is low but if you really wanted the job you should sue. You only failed because the fatass is discriminating against non fatasses. Everyone knows this.

wat

 

[mmntech]

There's not a single court in the United States that allows polygraph evidence. There's a good reason for that. It does NOT function scientifically. Polygraphs are the patent medicine of criminology.

Why it's still being allowed for job interviews is beyond me. They're far from accurate and easy to cheat. Any veteran spy will tell you that. The machines need to be outlawed.

 

[paulney]

And yet defense contractors hire foreigners out the wazoo. I about choked when I was introduced to the fully-accented Russian that was a software manager. There were also more Chinese citizens than I could count.

:whiste: :sneaky:

 

[Platypus]

you're better off, paulney.

 

[zinfamous]

perhaps you should have stopped supporting terrists.

 

[zinfamous]

:whiste: :sneaky:

wait...:hmm:

maybe it was your accent that tipped them off?

 

[CRXican]

I passed the only one I've ever taken. They are a joke.