Polls return to pre-convention levels with Obama having a 2 point lead overall

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I know we have had about a dozen threads about recent polls lately and this has shown up in the latest, but I think this is certainly worthy of its own thread.

A 10 point lead!! That is HUGE.
McCain is leading 54 to 44.
Look at the details to see how much of a turn around McCain has seen since picking Palin. No wonder the liberal blogs and media are in panic mode.

You shouldn't be so surprised.

My Electoral MAP from June still stands, McCain wins easily.

Which map is that?

Dave's Electoral MAP

:laugh: You have Hawaii going Republican? Have you gone full retard? Hawaii is going to go 80/20 Obama. It's things like this that make me think you're a comedian who tries to extract a reaction from his audience.

Look further down. That was my first MAP when I lumped Hawaii in with Alaska.

I was corrected that Hawiians are quite liberal.

McCain still wins easily.

 

[jpeyton]

And one more thing:

Electoral votes win the election.

Obama wins electoral college.

Obama wins electoral college.

Obama wins electoral college.

😉

 

[First]

^ No, he doesn't, and you're going to look stupid in November as usual Dave.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
^ No, he doesn't, and you're going to look stupid in November as usual Dave.

As compared to now?

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

I always wonder, do you guys actually believe that crap? I mean, do you genuinely think that half the country are traitors? Isn't that really really paranoid?

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

I always wonder, do you guys actually believe that crap? I mean, do you genuinely think that half the country are traitors? Isn't that really really paranoid?

You think the Democrats are traitors?

 

[UberNeuman]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

I always wonder, do you guys actually believe that crap? I mean, do you genuinely think that half the country are traitors? Isn't that really really paranoid?

You think the Democrats are traitors?

Do you?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

I always wonder, do you guys actually believe that crap? I mean, do you genuinely think that half the country are traitors? Isn't that really really paranoid?

You think the Democrats are traitors?

You said that they are anti-America. If you believe that means something else, please describe what that is.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

I always wonder, do you guys actually believe that crap? I mean, do you genuinely think that half the country are traitors? Isn't that really really paranoid?

Do you honestly believe that half the country is against peace??

Considering the fact 48% of the military considers itself Republicans vs. just 14% who consider themselves Democrat source.
It would seem counter productive to be 'anti-peace.'

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Still not taking any of that $$$ action eh PJ. Your posts are as hollow as the candidates you support.

Doesn't matter.

That hollow candidate supports everything PJ and the Republican controlled America stands for:

Anti-Abortion
Anti-Gay
Anti-Science
Anti-Fiscal Responsibilty
Anti-Peace
Anti-America

That belongs to the Democratic party.

I always wonder, do you guys actually believe that crap? I mean, do you genuinely think that half the country are traitors? Isn't that really really paranoid?

Do you honestly believe that half the country is against peace??

Considering the fact 48% of the military considers itself Republicans vs. just 14% who consider themselves Democrat source.
It would seem counter productive to be 'anti-peace.'

Huh? Of course not. That's why I don't make ridiculous blanket statements like "Republicans are all warmongers", and why I make fun of people when they say things like "Democrats are Anti-America".

And what do military voter registration numbers have to do with this?

 

[Stoneburner]

Originally posted by: eskimospy


And what do military voter registration numbers have to do with this?

Exactly what I was wondering. But I have to remember PRofjohn is something of an illogical fool.

 

[SlickSnake]

I think they would be doing even better in the poll numbers if McSame picked Laura Roslin from Battlestar Galactica to be his running mate, instead of Palin. :laugh:

And she is a LOT more experienced! 😉

And there is an eerie similarity in the way they look, too. Just a coincidence? I THINK NOT! :shocked:

 

[Engineer]

It's going to be close....

Poll Date Sample McCain (R) Obama (D) Spread
RCP Average 09/05 - 09/16 -- 45.7 45.7 Tie
CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 LV 44 49 Obama +5
Gallup Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 2787 RV 45 47 Obama +2
Rasmussen Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 3000 LV 48 47 McCain +1
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 909 RV 42 45 Obama +3
Reuters/Zogby 09/11 - 09/13 1008 LV 45 47 Obama +2
Newsweek 09/10 - 09/11 1038 RV 46 46 Tie
Battleground* 09/07 - 09/11 1000 LV 48 44 McCain +4
Associated Press/GfK 09/05 - 09/10 812 LV 48 44 McCain +4
FOX News 09/08 - 09/09 900 RV 45 42 McCain +3

Latest generic Congressional Poll....

CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 51 31 Democrats +20

 

[Stoneburner]

.... I still don't get why profjohn was ejaculating over a CONVENTION BOUNCE...

And dems were already crying

 

[retrospooty]

In the time this thread has been open, the momentum has swung back to Obama.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Looks like the lies and questionable tactics are not paying off so well. The excitement over Palin is wearing off and people are starting to realize that she is scary as a potential president. A female Dubbya Bush =)

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Engineer

It's going to be close....

Poll Date Sample McCain (R) Obama (D) Spread
RCP Average 09/05 - 09/16 -- 45.7 45.7 Tie
CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 LV 44 49 Obama +5
Gallup Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 2787 RV 45 47 Obama +2
Rasmussen Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 3000 LV 48 47 McCain +1
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 909 RV 42 45 Obama +3
Reuters/Zogby 09/11 - 09/13 1008 LV 45 47 Obama +2
Newsweek 09/10 - 09/11 1038 RV 46 46 Tie
Battleground* 09/07 - 09/11 1000 LV 48 44 McCain +4
Associated Press/GfK 09/05 - 09/10 812 LV 48 44 McCain +4
FOX News 09/08 - 09/09 900 RV 45 42 McCain +3

Latest generic Congressional Poll....

CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 51 31 Democrats +20

Why it it "going to be close?" Because on September 17th, 6 weeks before the election, it's close?

The current polls are meaningless.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Engineer

It's going to be close....

Poll Date Sample McCain (R) Obama (D) Spread
RCP Average 09/05 - 09/16 -- 45.7 45.7 Tie
CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 LV 44 49 Obama +5
Gallup Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 2787 RV 45 47 Obama +2
Rasmussen Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 3000 LV 48 47 McCain +1
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/14 - 09/16 909 RV 42 45 Obama +3
Reuters/Zogby 09/11 - 09/13 1008 LV 45 47 Obama +2
Newsweek 09/10 - 09/11 1038 RV 46 46 Tie
Battleground* 09/07 - 09/11 1000 LV 48 44 McCain +4
Associated Press/GfK 09/05 - 09/10 812 LV 48 44 McCain +4
FOX News 09/08 - 09/09 900 RV 45 42 McCain +3

Latest generic Congressional Poll....

CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 51 31 Democrats +20

Why it it "going to be close?" Because on September 17th, 6 weeks before the election, it's close?

The current polls are meaningless.

Part sarcasm to the OP on my part. I know that polls mean nothing right now....😉

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

McCain's bounce is over.

Back to reality. Obama has a +2-4 pt lead and will win the election if he can stay on message and keep this election about the issues.

 

[OrByte]

I wonder what McCains next gimmick is going to be?

female VP - check

steal Obama's 'change' message - check

maybe steal Obama? Promise to offer Sec State to Obama?

Maybe offer something to HRC?

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: OrByte
I wonder what McCains next gimmick is going to be?

female VP - check

steal Obama's 'change' message - check

maybe steal Obama? Promise to offer Sec State to Obama?

Maybe offer something to HRC?

They will go even more negative, and press it hard core.

 

[sportage]

I wonder what McCains next gimmick is going to be?

Mccain said it on several 9/17 talk shows.
He's going to "drain the swamp".

Not sure which of his 9 homes it is with the swamp problem???
Is this like Bush clearing brush?

So we had 8 years of Bush clearing brush,
and maybe 4 years of Mccain draining swamps.

Thats a plan!!! :laugh:

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
McCain's bounce is over.

Back to reality. Obama has a +2-4 pt lead and will win the election if he can stay on message and keep this election about the issues.

yeah, that's why JP's precious lovechild 538 is now showing a mccain victory; and the reason he is no longer pasting the link for it in every other reply.

 

[Engineer]

Obama now leads or is tied in every major poll/ Complete turaround from last week.

Please update the title OP...it's just a change of one word.

Click me!

RCP Average 09/09 - 09/18 -- 47.3 45.2 Obama +2.1
Gallup Tracking 09/15 - 09/17 2815 RV 48 44 Obama +4
Rasmussen Tracking 09/15 - 09/17 3000 LV 48 48 Tie
Hotline/FD Tracking 09/15 - 09/17 912 RV 46 42 Obama +4
Battleground Tracking 09/11 - 09/18 800 LV 47 47 Tie
CBS News/NY Times 09/12 - 09/16 LV 49 44 Obama +5
Quinnipiac 09/11 - 09/16 987 LV 49 45 Obama +4
Pew Research 09/09 - 09/14 2307 LV 46 46 Tie
Reuters/Zogby 09/11 - 09/13 1008 LV 47 45 Obama +2
Newsweek 09/10 - 09/11 1038 RV 46 46 Tie

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

PJ really should change the thread title, but we'll see . . .