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poll! worst automaker

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Originally posted by: BadDaddy
Originally posted by: sman789
mitsubishi....bad quality, bad engineering, bad bad....😛
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We have a '98 Mitsubishi Montero Sport with over 150,000 and it's still going strong. 😀
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isn't the famed eclipse/talon engine made by mitsubishi as well?

so far 30,000km on my new Lancer and no problems yet, and I tend to abuse my cars somewhat 😛

lots of anti-ford here.. anyone here actually have em or have owned one? Comments? I'm curious as to how good the Crown Vic is, if the police pack crown vic is any good too. Some people claim that the Crown Vic is better than the Caprice... I liked the Caprice, but I don't have any Ford experience to compare to.
 
You guys have it all wrong ;

Fixed
On
Roger's
Driveway

Ferrous oxide, rust and debris
Fast onlly running downhill
Found on rubbish dump

FFF'd over rebuilt Dodge
 
Chevrolet

Can hear every valve rap on long extended trips.

Pontiac

Pull over now, the injectors are cooked.
 
In what context do you answer this? If, from a completely quality-based standpoint, you have to define what "GM," "Ford," "Chrysler," and "VW" are.

If you look at all the brands under those companies above, here's how they'd rank, based on JD Power's latest IQS:

1) Cadillac (GM)
2) Buick (GM)
3) Mercury (Ford)
4) Hyundai
5) Mercedes Benz (Daimler-Chrysler)
6) Audi (VW)
7) Oldmobile
8) Volvo (Ford)
9) Chevrolet (GM)
------------------------------------------------------AVERAGE-----------------
10) Chrysler (Daimler-Chrysler)
11) Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler)
12) Lincoln (Ford)
13) Pontiac (GM)
14) GMC (GM)
15) Ford (Ford)
16) Saab (GM)
17) Jeep (Daimler-Chrysler)
18) Saturn (GM)
19) Suzuki
20) VW

I would have to say, based on initial quality, VW is the worst.

Entire 2004 IQS List
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
In what context do you answer this? If, from a completely quality-based standpoint, you have to define what "GM," "Ford," "Chrysler," and "VW" are.
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since there is no 'GM' branded vehicle the only assumption is that i'm refering to every car they make. since you have to assume that with GM, it is probable that i am using the same definition for all the other choices


also, that survey shouldn't be called 'initial quality' but 'initial satisfaction' since there are very many subjective things like "makes too much wind noise." someone who is used to driving a lexus is going to think tons more things are wrong in a hyundai than someone who is used to driving a hyundai.
 
i put GM, although VW ought to get "bonus" points for trying to pass themselves off as well engineered. at least no one has any delusions about GM sucking.

GM makes the best A/C's in the world though, you gotta give them that.
 
hmm .. my vote goes to VW as they make small ugly cars that are not very reliable.
My second pick would go to Hyundai ... small, ugly, not so reliable
My third pick would be Suzuki .. small, extremely ugly, not sure about the reliabillity
My Fourth Pick would be Kia ... small and ugly
My Fifth pick would be Toyota .. smal and IMO ugly
 
Originally posted by: brigden
It's a sad state of affairs when GM's best-looking vehicles are in the Pontiac line-up.
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They really do have some of the worst styling.

I grew up with a lot of GMs (Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs) and Fords (Fords, Mercurys and Lincolns) and I'll never buy a GM. Ford wouldn't be my first choice, but no way to a GM.

I'd consider buying a Mazda again.
 
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