POLL: Will you watch "The Reagans" on showtime?

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I wasn't going to watch it anyway. Reagan is in my personal Top-10 Presidents list, there was no way I was going to watch his legacy get crucified by a pseudo-historical documentary.

top 10 huh? a man that negotiated with terrorists😛 giving terrorists what they want does what?

a man that left with his tail between his legs after hundreds of american soldiers were killed by a suicide bomber.

if he were a democrat, limbaugh would never stop ranting.

A man who won the cold war, eliminating the constant fear of nuclear annihilation at the hands of the Soviets and possible saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
A man who helped bring freedom from dictatorship to the peoples of the U.S.S.R.
A man who was instrumental in bringing freedom and unification to Germany.
A man who's economic policy helped reduce the unemployment rate in the US from 9.5% to 5% in a 6 year period.

yeah, i'm sure the fall of the USSR had nothing to do with their long-standing infrastructure problems and lack of money and everything to do with Reagan escalating nuclear tension. he didn't "win" anything. the conflict ended in spite of him. you act like something he did caused it to end, but he just happened to be in office when the USSR fell.

your first three "big accomplishments" are all the same thing. your last is a nice way to distract us from the economic carnage he unleashed on our country.

yup, all his points were beyond weak.




reagan by best estimates sped up the fall of the soviets by meer months.




"I don't think it [the arms spending race] contributed at all. The Soviet Union was a victim of battles within the country itself. We saw that the country was not adapting to the challenges of science and technology, that it missed the boat on structural reforms.People were not free, they were unhappy, and this could not be ignored. The arms race was not decisive."

Gorbachev


what reagan did was continue the tried and true containment policies started by presidents before him, starting with Harry S. Truman. didn't know that huh? guess some like to take all the credit for work of others. the soviets couldn't even deal with afganistan, mostly thanks to a democratic senator and the cia that secretly funded and armed the opposition and made the ussr bleed.

http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/pubarchive.php?haney+694




Reagan Administration: 245 officials investigated, 190 indicted
Clinton Administration: 11 and 7.



Reagan increased (not congress) spending by 80%, debt by 187% and deficits by 112%.

Clinton increased spending by 28%, debt by 28% and got us a surplus..

Under Reagan, an average of 175,00 jobs were created per month compared to Clinton record 248,000.

http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/2605

http://www.thezephyr.com/letters.htm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wall/article/0,2763,196784,00.html
hehe http://www.americanpolitics.com/20020319Hersh.html

and
the US embassy in beirut was bombed, killing 16 americans amoung the 46 others.
marines were sniped, mortored to death
they bombed 243 marines to death
the exposed marines were not allowed to have loaded weapons.
they bombed the embassy again
reagan runs with tail between legs
us hostages are taken by muslim terrorists.
Reagan says he won't negotiate with terrorists.
Reagan gives"arms for hostages" and lies about it.
rewarding terrorism gets you what again? 😉

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I wasn't going to watch it anyway. Reagan is in my personal Top-10 Presidents list, there was no way I was going to watch his legacy get crucified by a pseudo-historical documentary.

top 10 huh? a man that negotiated with terrorists😛 giving terrorists what they want does what?

a man that left with his tail between his legs after hundreds of american soldiers were killed by a suicide bomber.

if he were a democrat, limbaugh would never stop ranting.

A man who won the cold war, eliminating the constant fear of nuclear annihilation at the hands of the Soviets and possible saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
A man who helped bring freedom from dictatorship to the peoples of the U.S.S.R.
A man who was instrumental in bringing freedom and unification to Germany.
A man who's economic policy helped reduce the unemployment rate in the US from 9.5% to 5% in a 6 year period.

Hey, I didn't know Gorbatjev was responsible for reducing the US unemployment rate!

 

[Shelly21]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: Shanti

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I wasn't going to watch it anyway. Reagan is in my personal Top-10 Presidents list, there was no way I was going to watch his legacy get crucified by a pseudo-historical documentary.

top 10 huh? a man that negotiated with terrorists😛 giving terrorists what they want does what?

a man that left with his tail between his legs after hundreds of american soldiers were killed by a suicide bomber.

if he were a democrat, limbaugh would never stop ranting.

A man who won the cold war, eliminating the constant fear of nuclear annihilation at the hands of the Soviets and possible saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
A man who helped bring freedom from dictatorship to the peoples of the U.S.S.R.
A man who was instrumental in bringing freedom and unification to Germany.
A man who's economic policy helped reduce the unemployment rate in the US from 9.5% to 5% in a 6 year period.

Hey, I didn't know Gorbatjev was responsible for reducing the US unemployment rate!

LOL....

Yeah, Soviet union pretty much caused its own demise, we just speed it up.