POLL: Which new 2004 truck to buy?

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: BigSmooth

Originally posted by: Skoorb
C&D Gave the titan the 1st place in their full size comparison. I can't remember where the Dodge came in, but that one isn't in your poll. The titan really was great with the numbers, thought he F150 did well too.

Yup, here's a link to the C&D comparo:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=7692&page_number=1

Although it should be noted that as a car enthusiast mag, C&D puts more of an emphasis on performance than many pickup buyers would. Still, the Titan appears to be a stellar value.

wtf

 

[NutBucket]

This is ridiculous. If you combine sales of GMC and Chevy they easily outsell the F150. Doesn't really have any thing to do with this discussion, just throwing it out there. If they were really that bad then who would buy them?

Anyhow, I'm glad at least one person here is recommending GM.

And you guys know I'm no GM fanboi. One click in my sig tells you that.

 

[flyfish]

Today? A Tundra
In a couple of years? Titan
Why? Tundra is proven with enough hp to do what I need.
Titan is first year model.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
This is ridiculous. If you combine sales of GMC and Chevy they easily outsell the F150. Doesn't really have any thing to do with this discussion, just throwing it out there. If they were really that bad then who would buy them?

Anyhow, I'm glad at least one person here is recommending GM.

And you guys know I'm no GM fanboi. One click in my sig tells you that.

Chevy sells many many Cavaliers but it is still a piece of crap.

That is a poor argument.

Titan or Tundra would be a much better choice IMHO.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: NutBucket
This is ridiculous. If you combine sales of GMC and Chevy they easily outsell the F150. Doesn't really have any thing to do with this discussion, just throwing it out there. If they were really that bad then who would buy them?

Anyhow, I'm glad at least one person here is recommending GM.

And you guys know I'm no GM fanboi. One click in my sig tells you that.

Chevy sells many many Cavaliers but it is still a piece of crap.

That is a poor argument.

Titan or Tundra would be a much better choice IMHO.

It wasn't an arguement, just factoid. Maybe if its a truck you're driving to the office, a Tundra or Titan would be fine. My neighbor is a pool guy and has a Tundra. Anything beyond light duty hauling requires a GM/Ford/Dodge truck. Simple as that.

 

[LAUST]

In comparison to what? The Camry and Accord? Those 2 are the best selling cars for a good reason now arent they?

 

[DPmaster]

I'd take a look at the Titan or Chevy/GMC. I've got a 1994 GMC Sierra with 171,000 miles on it. Still going strong 🙂

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: NutBucket
This is ridiculous. If you combine sales of GMC and Chevy they easily outsell the F150. Doesn't really have any thing to do with this discussion, just throwing it out there. If they were really that bad then who would buy them?

Anyhow, I'm glad at least one person here is recommending GM.

And you guys know I'm no GM fanboi. One click in my sig tells you that.

Chevy sells many many Cavaliers but it is still a piece of crap.

That is a poor argument.

Titan or Tundra would be a much better choice IMHO.

In comparison to what? The Camry and Accord? Those 2 are the best selling cars for a good reason now arent they?

And what is your opinion based on? Whats the biggest load you have ever hauled, and how many years of beatings has the truck taken?

In comparison to a bicycle.

I have experience working with Dodge, Ford and GM trucks towing cars and mini-vans around (years ago though). Ford was the only truck worth half a crap.

Consumer Reports hasn't been very kind to the Chevy or Dodge trucks either so I am basing my opinion on that and what I've read from owners of those vehicles.

What are you basing your opinion on? The one truck you've owned? The one truck your Dad owned?

Often times I've found that the people who stand by one brand have been burned by them at least once but they keep going back and they tend to gloss over some pretty major issues as just normal wear items.

The quote "I've got 150,000 miles and never done anything but change the oil" is a crock of BS. Don't EVER believe that when you hear it.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The quote "I've got 150,000 miles and never done anything but change the oil" is a crock of BS. Don't EVER believe that when you hear it.

I've got 150k on my Honda and all I ever changed was the oil. So that's a crock of bs as well? Or is that only because its a "reliable" brand whereas GM/Ford/Chevy are not?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The quote "I've got 150,000 miles and never done anything but change the oil" is a crock of BS. Don't EVER believe that when you hear it.

I've got 150k on my Honda and all I ever changed was the oil. So that's a crock of bs as well? Or is that only because its a "reliable" brand whereas GM/Ford/Chevy are not?

Well, with a Honda it is more believable that you never had any major issues with it but I still call BS. You've never replaced brakes? Tires? Nothing else EVER needed replacement/repair?

GM is not reliable. It is a fact. Deal with it.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Dakota!

....you aren't really going to use your truck for truck stuff, are you?

 

[LAUST]

Don't EVER believe that when you hear it

 

[Demon-Xanth]

If you want durability, look at the Dodge Cummins. After 300,000 miles of abuse, the only problem my uncle's had with his '94 Ram is the front wheel bearings, and that's likely attributed to the 35x12.5R16.5 tires (no lift kit). And after 300,000 miles of use and abuse, what'd he do? Went to a place that added another 50HP with ECU and wastegate adjustments. I don't think his truck has gone more than a week total without 1000+Lbs of tools in the bed and a steel camper shell that weighs in at 500LBs alone.

If you want a truck, get a diesel and atleast a 250/2500. If you want a car with a bed, get whatever looks best in your opinion.

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: ViperSSD
A lot of the concern with new models is mainly that the engine and drivetrain may not be up to par, but the Nissan V8 has been around, versions of it are in the FX45 and the Q45.

the 5.6 is a totally different engind from the VK 4.5 that is in q45, m45 and fx45

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
In comparison to a bicycle.

I have experience working with Dodge, Ford and GM trucks towing cars and mini-vans around (years ago though). Ford was the only truck worth half a crap.

Consumer Reports hasn't been very kind to the Chevy or Dodge trucks either so I am basing my opinion on that and what I've read from owners of those vehicles.

What are you basing your opinion on? The one truck you've owned? The one truck your Dad owned?

Often times I've found that the people who stand by one brand have been burned by them at least once but they keep going back and they tend to gloss over some pretty major issues as just normal wear items.

The quote "I've got 150,000 miles and never done anything but change the oil" is a crock of BS. Don't EVER believe that when you hear it.

69 <--- Replaced the tie rod ends ($60) and the Master Cylinder ($11.99)
79 <--- Master Cylinder
90 <--- Throttle body injection is $h!t constant trouble ended up putting a TPI off the Z28 on it, ran like a badda$$ from there
and a 1999 Silverado <--- general maint is all as with the others

Ford
84 F-150 <--- biggest POS of all of them, the steering always had a loose feeling to it and the emissions on it was the biggest vacume nightmare I had ever seen in my lifetime. Took me finally putting a DUI on it and a non EGR manifold and registering it in Wyoming on a PO box to get it to run decent as far as the engine goes.

The point went over your dome, The Cavalier isn't that good a seller, it sells to people who need a cheap car, the people buying Silverado's are the same types who buy a Camry, it's because it's a strong going truck. Comsmer Reports is worthless they are the same people who say the GMC Envoy has a smooth shift and the Blazer has a rough shift... dispite them both being a 4L60E

Mine has 74,000 miles on it, it's had a supercharger on it for about 70K of them, it tows a double axel dunlap with either a 95 Cobra or a 79 Scout on it. I take it off-road and have raced it a few seasons also.

Sorry I'm not the 22 year old little brat you were expecting to just roll over.


edit: and in the 74K miles I have changed the oil, tranny fluid and filter, serpentine belt, T-case fluid, rear dif fluid, and I wash my K&N air filter about every 2 years and flushed out my brake fluid since I tow in the Rocky mountains, not little baby hills like most of the US.

How about we just agree to disagree and end the pointless bickering. Have a :beer:

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: johnjbruin

Originally posted by: ViperSSD
A lot of the concern with new models is mainly that the engine and drivetrain may not be up to par, but the Nissan V8 has been around, versions of it are in the FX45 and the Q45.

the 5.6 is a totally different engind from the VK 4.5 that is in q45, m45 and fx45

And the 4.5 is by no means a truck engine. It would be completely out of place in one.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Marauder911
How about add Chevy Silverado SS to the list?

LOL, good one.

Anyways, my picks would be F150, Ram, then a Silverado.

 

[Cfour]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: NutBucket
This is ridiculous. If you combine sales of GMC and Chevy they easily outsell the F150. Doesn't really have any thing to do with this discussion, just throwing it out there. If they were really that bad then who would buy them?

Anyhow, I'm glad at least one person here is recommending GM.

And you guys know I'm no GM fanboi. One click in my sig tells you that.

Chevy sells many many Cavaliers but it is still a piece of crap.

That is a poor argument.

Titan or Tundra would be a much better choice IMHO.

It wasn't an arguement, just factoid. Maybe if its a truck you're driving to the office, a Tundra or Titan would be fine. My neighbor is a pool guy and has a Tundra. Anything beyond light duty hauling requires a GM/Ford/Dodge truck. Simple as that.

Agreed. After reading the posts in this thread, it really appears the majority of peopel posting don't know jack sh*t about what a full size truck needs to do/what is the best one out there.

 

[Schadenfroh]

nissan Titan, they are building them just north of here

 

[Excelsior]

*sigh*

Chevy..definitely Chevy. Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Cfour

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: NutBucket
This is ridiculous. If you combine sales of GMC and Chevy they easily outsell the F150. Doesn't really have any thing to do with this discussion, just throwing it out there. If they were really that bad then who would buy them?

Anyhow, I'm glad at least one person here is recommending GM.

And you guys know I'm no GM fanboi. One click in my sig tells you that.

Chevy sells many many Cavaliers but it is still a piece of crap.

That is a poor argument.

Titan or Tundra would be a much better choice IMHO.

It wasn't an arguement, just factoid. Maybe if its a truck you're driving to the office, a Tundra or Titan would be fine. My neighbor is a pool guy and has a Tundra. Anything beyond light duty hauling requires a GM/Ford/Dodge truck. Simple as that.

Agreed. After reading the posts in this thread, it really appears the majority of peopel posting don't know jack sh*t about what a full size truck needs to do/what is the best one out there.

What does a fullsize truck need to do? Look at the manufacturers stated towing/hauling limits of the truck. Decide if that is within the limits of what you need it to do. Obviously, all the trucks mentioned in the poll meet or exceed the needs of the original poster or he wouldn't be considering them.

So, it really comes down to personal preference.

Your post is meaningless.

 

[stev0]

hands down, the new F150.

i'm a long time ford owner, and am in love with my current truck... but even i would trade up for a newer version 🙂

go take one for a spin if you already haven't, then you'll see what i'm talking about (btw, make sure to get the new leather)

 

[LAUST]

w00t!

 

[TechnoKid]

its all about the ford f550 supercruzer.

I'd get the titan. But, being that it is a new model, the drivetrain hasn't had a chance to prove itself to durability yet. Nissan has made pretty strong vehicles overall.

 

[dartworth]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
*sigh*

Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.

Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.
Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.
Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.
Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.
Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.
Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.
Oh..and if you haven't ever driven a truck, go ahead and stay the hell out of this thread. Thanks.