Poll: Waiting to kiss until you are married!

[postmortemIA]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
I have a friend who stopped masturbating and decided to wait on kissing till marriage. He's not Christian.

He is Muslim?

 

[GeneValgene]

my girlfriend and i just got engaged in san diego last weekend after dating two years...and we haven't kissed yet!

still waiting for marriage

us!

 

[SolMiester]

Oh oh, I want to post it..........................., but dare not!

 

[SolMiester]

ROFLMAO!!!!

OOOOoooo, arhhhh. Serious!?






Nah!

 

[forfor]

Wait, how come 170 of you chose "You're a tool"?

 

[Aharami]

saw this yesterday. so kissing before marriage is bad now? next thing you know, looking at another woman before marriage will be looked down upon also by the fundementalist christian community. before long, women (or men) will have to go around all covered up.

This is moving backwards...IMO

 

[SaltBoy]

Originally posted by: GeneValgene
my girlfriend and i just got engaged in san diego last weekend after dating two years...and we haven't kissed yet!

still waiting for marriage

us!

Good luck! :thumbsup:

 

[DaShen]

Yes, unless it would be edifying or appropriate to do otherwise. As a relationship grows physical affection grows too. You just need to be careful not to cross "a line" (if you will).

But if kissing is only going to distract from intimacy between me and my SO, I can wait till mariage.

 

[OCNewbie]

LOL - Quote from the masturbation thread on that board, check out the bolded statement, sounds a little too descriptive for that forum. Maybe that was someone from here =P

I have trouble going for more than a few days... Sometimes I just have to shoot one off, it helps relieve stress, and feels really good. But, with enough discipline I think I can stop!

followed by the very next post, perhaps another AT'er

It's been 30 minutes here......i need some prayers!

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Aharami
saw this yesterday. so kissing before marriage is bad now? next thing you know, looking at another woman before marriage will be looked down upon also by the fundementalist christian community. before long, women (or men) will have to go around all covered up.

This is moving backwards...IMO

Your reckless generalizations are ignorant and dangerous. There is no fundamentlist community dictating policy....there are individuals, Christian and Non-Christian who think waiting to kiss till marriage is a good idea.

When you start seeing large groups of people as one thing you get fear and bigotry and hatred.

 

[ViviTheMage]

hahaha, 2 days without masterbaition!

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: Fraggable
I am a very firm believer in no sex before marriage but kissing - I see no problem with that.

I tend to believe that the level of intimacy should be appropriate for the level of commitment. Personally I would not kiss someone before I was engaged.

But I know plenty of Christians who believe that kissing before marriage is the only way to go. I respect their beliefs and understand their reasoning (what redgtxdi said) but that's just not the way I interpret God's laws on relationships.

As a Christian myself, I have a very lax view on these sorta things, but I do agree on no sex before marriage, not just morally, but commen sensically, as well as the fact that I don't wanna get any STIs. :x

don't believe the hype. sti's arent nearly as prolific as every says.

 

[nissan720]

You sir are a TOOL!

 

[saymyname]

This is retarded.

Religion will be the death of us.

 

[B00ne]

Thats nuts, I think you should'nt even marry before you have lived together.

 

[chambersc]

Political Correctness has run amuck. Soon, I'll have no respect for someone who holds absolutely archaic views of the world and thinks it was created simplistically by a deity.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: timosyy

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
I'm a hardcore Christian too, and I voted yes. I'm also surprised that there are so many that voted yes. Though I wonder how many of the people just did it to be silly.

I can tell you, from the perspective of someone who was definitely not "raised in the church" and spent a lot of time in the world, that waiting to kiss until your married is not normal for the average Christian couple. I voted yes, because of my personal convictions, because I'm pretty darn sure it doesn't say that you can't kiss in the bible.

The reason I made that decision is because I didn't even want to open up that door. I had been down that road too many times before I was a Christian, and even a few times after I claimed to be a Christian too. Having sex and all that stuff, holding the image of being something that I wasn't, thus fulfilling the hypocritical stereotype. I had been burned by sex too many times, and it really just made me feel empty and convicted. I didn't want to carry that around anymore. So I wisened up and stopped doing what was making me feel empty, which was sinning, manifest in the form of having sex. But I still would put myself in those situations and end up kissing girls and doing a lot of the things except I wouldn't have sex.. but it was basically the same. So I realized that I couldn't trust myself in those situations. I didn't want to put myself in that position. Ephesians 4:27 says, "and do not give the devil an opportunity." For me, specifically for me, that was the opportunity. For someone else, it might not be the opportunity, and they could be completely fine in that situation. That's totally cool. I don't throw my convictions on other people, and I don't judge other people for doing what I don't, or not doing what I do. That isn't my place. There is only one Judge.

:thumbsup:

Remember, that the law is dead though. Once you make it absolutely a "sin" to kiss before marriage (which it isn't IMO), it become legalistic in its ways. There is a better way to look at behaviors than that. I would rather see good behaviors as things that are better for me and for others (more edifying if you will). I just believe that it may be better for a long term commited relationship possilby to not kiss before marriage (but I am not making it an absolute rule). If it is edifying to do, I will.

 

[reverend boltron]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: timosyy

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
I'm a hardcore Christian too, and I voted yes. I'm also surprised that there are so many that voted yes. Though I wonder how many of the people just did it to be silly.

I can tell you, from the perspective of someone who was definitely not "raised in the church" and spent a lot of time in the world, that waiting to kiss until your married is not normal for the average Christian couple. I voted yes, because of my personal convictions, because I'm pretty darn sure it doesn't say that you can't kiss in the bible.

The reason I made that decision is because I didn't even want to open up that door. I had been down that road too many times before I was a Christian, and even a few times after I claimed to be a Christian too. Having sex and all that stuff, holding the image of being something that I wasn't, thus fulfilling the hypocritical stereotype. I had been burned by sex too many times, and it really just made me feel empty and convicted. I didn't want to carry that around anymore. So I wisened up and stopped doing what was making me feel empty, which was sinning, manifest in the form of having sex. But I still would put myself in those situations and end up kissing girls and doing a lot of the things except I wouldn't have sex.. but it was basically the same. So I realized that I couldn't trust myself in those situations. I didn't want to put myself in that position. Ephesians 4:27 says, "and do not give the devil an opportunity." For me, specifically for me, that was the opportunity. For someone else, it might not be the opportunity, and they could be completely fine in that situation. That's totally cool. I don't throw my convictions on other people, and I don't judge other people for doing what I don't, or not doing what I do. That isn't my place. There is only one Judge.

:thumbsup:

Remember, that the law is dead though. Once you make it absolutely a "sin" to kiss before marriage (which it isn't IMO), it become legalistic in its ways. There is a better way to look at behaviors than that. I would rather see good behaviors as things that are better for me and for others (more edifying if you will). I just believe that it may be better for a long term commited relationship possilby to not kiss before marriage (but I am not making it an absolute rule). If it is edifying to do, I will.

I never said it was a sin to kiss before marriage. I said that it was my own personal conviction and that it is something that I am doing because I don't want to open that door again. Jesus said that if you look lustfully toward a woman you are an adulterer, and if you hate your brother then you are a murderer. You should read what I wrote next time before you begin to say that I am being legalistic.

Galations chapter 2 says that the law is supposed to be a tutor to us. The fact that Christians are under a new covenant, with grace from God and the blood of Jesus covering our sins doesn't mean that we can go out and sin like crazy because grace abounds, it means, we learn the law, and begin to understand it and what it means. That way we won't continue to live by mans traditions and forsake God's commandments.

Jesus says that if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off. If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. If you like to speed and you drive a fast car, get rid of it. If you struggle with sex, then don't put yourself in that situation.

I understand where you are coming from when you say not to make it a rule and fall under the legalism of things, because once that happens, you are missing the point, no longer dependent on God, but upon yourself. The bible says to be holy as He is holy. If kissing is going to be a "gateway" for me to wander away from God, then I will do whatever it is that I have to do to stop that. I understand the forgiveness, and mercy and grace that we have through the blood, but at the same time, I know from experience that it never pays to stray (that isn't saying that I won't go and hang out with non-Christians, or that I won't talk to peopel who don't know God. Or that I will only hang out with myself, because that's missing the point too. It is saying that if I know that something causes me to struggle, I will cut it off).

 

[Fraggable]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: timosyy

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
I'm a hardcore Christian too, and I voted yes. I'm also surprised that there are so many that voted yes. Though I wonder how many of the people just did it to be silly.

I can tell you, from the perspective of someone who was definitely not "raised in the church" and spent a lot of time in the world, that waiting to kiss until your married is not normal for the average Christian couple. I voted yes, because of my personal convictions, because I'm pretty darn sure it doesn't say that you can't kiss in the bible.

The reason I made that decision is because I didn't even want to open up that door. I had been down that road too many times before I was a Christian, and even a few times after I claimed to be a Christian too. Having sex and all that stuff, holding the image of being something that I wasn't, thus fulfilling the hypocritical stereotype. I had been burned by sex too many times, and it really just made me feel empty and convicted. I didn't want to carry that around anymore. So I wisened up and stopped doing what was making me feel empty, which was sinning, manifest in the form of having sex. But I still would put myself in those situations and end up kissing girls and doing a lot of the things except I wouldn't have sex.. but it was basically the same. So I realized that I couldn't trust myself in those situations. I didn't want to put myself in that position. Ephesians 4:27 says, "and do not give the devil an opportunity." For me, specifically for me, that was the opportunity. For someone else, it might not be the opportunity, and they could be completely fine in that situation. That's totally cool. I don't throw my convictions on other people, and I don't judge other people for doing what I don't, or not doing what I do. That isn't my place. There is only one Judge.

:thumbsup:

Remember, that the law is dead though. Once you make it absolutely a "sin" to kiss before marriage (which it isn't IMO), it become legalistic in its ways. There is a better way to look at behaviors than that. I would rather see good behaviors as things that are better for me and for others (more edifying if you will). I just believe that it may be better for a long term commited relationship possilby to not kiss before marriage (but I am not making it an absolute rule). If it is edifying to do, I will.

You say 'the law is dead'. I'm jsut wondering, can you define 'the law' you speak of? Do you really know enough about the Bible to make that comment?

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: B00ne
Thats nuts, I think you should'nt even marry before you have lived together.

Let's see our (Gen X) parents believed in free love and the divorce rate among them is almost 2/3 leading to cascading problems stemming from broken homes.

Guess what, society tried it your way and, uh, it didn't work.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: B00ne
Thats nuts, I think you should'nt even marry before you have lived together.

Let's see our (Gen X) parents believed in free love and the divorce rate among them is almost 2/3 leading to cascading problems stemming from broken homes.

Guess what, society tried it your way and, uh, it didn't work.

Free love and living together before marriage are not one in the same.

Care to try again?

 

[Bateluer]

. . .

Amusing though, definitely amusing.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: forfor
Wait, how come 170 of you chose "You're a tool"?

Because you gave us the option. Oh, and your post doesn't say whether you are for or against this sort of ridiculous behavior.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: B00ne
Thats nuts, I think you should'nt even marry before you have lived together.

Let's see our (Gen X) parents believed in free love and the divorce rate among them is almost 2/3 leading to cascading problems stemming from broken homes.

Guess what, society tried it your way and, uh, it didn't work.

Free love and living together before marriage are not one in the same.

Care to try again?

Sure, how about we late the logic train this time.

To think that you can determine if you want to marry somebody by experimenting with living with them means, in order to find the exact person you should marry, you need to live with every woman alive to see which responds most favorably to living with you. Or just figure on hopefully coming close enough with a handful of tries. And then, after marriage, wondering if you made the right decision because after an extended time together something comes up. And what if one of you changes as a person.

While typical of how the typical idiot goes about it cause he lacks the fortitude to do it the right way, it's nonetheless, idiotic.

 

[Goosemaster]

*backs away from this thread.....slowly...slowly...*