Poll: U.S. Whites More Solidly Behind Republican Party

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BudAshes

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Yep, which is completely natural, healthy, normal, and appropriate.

White people know that they are happiest and safest when in communities exclusively, or as close to exclusively as possible, comprised of other whites.

That's not me saying something which is up for debate or controversial, btw. That's firmly rooted in crime statistics and widely accepted research on "social capital", civic engagement, etc.

Most whites can't articulate that, or won't, but most of them still know it instinctively. They know that they want to live in a majority white area. They know they'd rather have the cop who pulls them over be white, and the same goes for the jurors who sit at their trial if they should ever have one, the principal of their kid's school, the date their daughter takes to prom, the doctor who treats them, the person who takes their customer support call, the bank teller, etc etc etc.

People feel more comfortable interacting with and living among those who are like themselves. Most of the countries which are highest on the world happiness lists they put out are also some of the most homogeneous countries in the world.

Mass non-white immigration has never been something a majority of the population of any white nation has been in favor of. This is something which has been imposed by a handful of powerful people at the top because they thought they knew better than the rabble below them, or because they wanted cheap labor. These same people who've set so many white nations on a course toward white-minority population always make sure to use their wealth to live in very white areas. I guess it's "diversity for thee, but not for me" as far as they're concerned.

White people see the track record many immigrant groups have in terms of the sorts of societies they left behind, and they are understandably concerned about their societies becoming more like that. Of course they're worried about losing their "privileges" because those privileges are their birth right and were passed down to them by their ancestors. Their ancestors who worked incredibly hard and often had horrendously difficult lives, and who made those nations what they are now. Why should anyone want to see that given to someone else?

It is indeed a privilege to live among others like yourself. The peace of mind that brings is a privilege. The safety that brings is a privilege. When your group has a low crime rate and a high per capita income, it's even more of a privilege. It's a privilege to live in a place with beautiful scenery and which isn't overcrowded with people. Why should anyone want to see such a place transition into being packed with droves of people?

Why should anyone want to see their government become more and more bloated and more and more adept at siphoning tax dollars from them to give to outsiders who are being allowed in to take their jobs and displace them with a higher birth rate?

Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.

Mr. Geosurface, what you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point, in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
 

Pocatello

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Oct 11, 1999
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As much as I love Idaho, it's a great place, but I wouldn't say it's happier than states with more diversity. There are many statistics which say Idaho is quite depressing, but it has nothing to do with the mostly white population. We have extremely high suicide rate and divorce rate. Idaho health care for people with mental issues is none existent in rural area. White people here don't care if their doctors are white or not, else we wouldn't have so many doctors from India or nurses from the Philippines.
 

raildogg

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Aug 24, 2004
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As much as I love Idaho, it's a great place, but I wouldn't say it's happier than states with more diversity. There are many statistics which say Idaho is quite depressing, but it has nothing to do with the mostly white population. We have extremely high suicide rate and divorce rate. Idaho health care for people with mental issues is none existent in rural area. White people here don't care if their doctors are white or not, else we wouldn't have so many doctors from India or nurses from the Philippines.

They don't care because that person is supposedly helping them. That may sound cruel but when another is helping you, you let go of your assumptions and prejudices (at least for the time being).
 

DrPizza

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Mar 5, 2001
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Rarely do I want to simply use someone else's post as the mod edit.
You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.
Almost sums it up. GeoSurface account placed on indefinite suspension pending admin/mod discussion.
-Admin DrPizza
 

Geosurface

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Mar 22, 2012
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All these personal anecdotes about "I don't care what race the people around me are, in fact if anything, I'm MORE comfortable around people of other races! In fact, it weirds me out when I'm surrounded by only other whites, yuck!" are something I'm very familiar with and which sound to my ear like trying too hard. But perhaps I'm wrong. If so, that's great... diversity is our strength, and apparently it's working fantastically!

I would just ask all of you who've said something along those lines to please go tell the Huffington Post and well, every single other media outlet for the last several decades, that they've got it wrong when they constantly publish studies which purport to prove that whites are deeply racist in every facet of how they live their lives, and that this is easily revealed by doing implicit bias tests, hiring studies, studies of when families move out of certain areas or move their kids out of certain schools, etc etc etc...

It's really one of their favorite topics. And I just think they'll be relieved to know that they've got it all wrong, so do please inform them.
 

Geosurface

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Rarely do I want to simply use someone else's post as the mod edit.

Almost sums it up. GeoSurface account placed on indefinite suspension pending admin/mod discussion.
-Admin DrPizza

I humbly request you upgrade it to a permaban, tired of dancing around the censorship crap here.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Lol, you should spend some time reading more of Jefferson's writings if you think I'm speaking in a way he'd disagree with.

The version of Jefferson they try to create in peoples' minds is considerably more PC than he really was.

He didn't literally mean "all of humanity" by "all men." That should be fairly self-evident from his writings, the views of all the founding fathers and the limitations they put on who could become an American citizen in the 1790 immigration standards (free white people) and oh um, the fact that he and many of the others held slaves? That might be a pretty big tip off.

You do know that his famously quoted line which appears on his memorial: "Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free... actually continues on with: "Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them."

Doesn't quite sound like he felt "all men are created equal" in the way a modern person might be tempted to interpret it. Does it?

Fact is, I'm actually considerably more tolerant and egalitarian than he was. Not the other way around.

Jefferson was a complicated man, as much a man of his time as he was a visionary ahead of his time.
But make no mistake, if he lived in THIS time, he'd be nothing like you.

When he wrote in the DOI that all men are created equal, what he meant was that no one was born with the "divine right" to be king. And there is nothing more tribalist than the notion that one of the tribe must have been born to be king, for if one group was born to rule the others, then surely one man of that group was born to rule as well.

Long story short, racists like you don't believe in meritocracy, education for all, or any of the other ideals that drove the classical liberal enlightenment, and so you have no claim to them.
 

brycejones

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I humbly request you upgrade it to a permaban, tired of dancing around the censorship crap here.

This forum is far from censored, you've worked very hard to find and then jump across the line. BTW, if you are so tired of what you see as excessive censorship around here there is a very simple solution. Don't visit forums.anandtech.com ever again. Problem solved and no action required by anyone else.
 
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I eagerly anticipate the "Anandtech Forums on trial, part 2" article posted on Stormfront.

Ha! Exactly.

I would be shocked if he doesn't have an account on Stormfront or some other white supremacy/separatism forum. He is too obsessed with race, and too hard-wired to blather, to have refrained from doing that. He will not be using the same username or any similar identifying information, since he got busted for his comment on conservativetreehouse to the effect that 85% of all black people were worthless criminals. If memory serves he was using the same avatar but a different username there.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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There is credible scientific research that indicates that diversity in a society has downsides as well as upsides. The upsides are almost predictable: A clash in viewpoints and cultures is surprisingly productive in terms of leading to creative solutions and innovation. It's what leads cities like New York City and Los Angeles to be world-class creative hubs.

As with anything, there are also downsides: Civic engagement seems to decrease across the board within that diverse community. The phenomenon doesn't seem to be well understood, but there appears to be a "turtling" effect that leads to less voting, volunteering, charity work and so on. The decrease appears to be quite significant.

So there's a trade off. Ultimately I think it's evident that Western nations that embrace immigration come out enormously ahead. Even anecdotally, the forced emigration of both the Jewish and German populations in and around WW2 make it very clear that immigrants tend to self-select as doers; they made escape/survival happen, and they make success happen too. Your run of the mill Internet white supremacist isn't going to agree because that does nothing for his fat ass, but America / Canada / Britain / etc win as a whole (it just might not end up being as white an America as his fat ass hopes it'd be).
 
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kage69

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Jul 17, 2003
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Almost all the major cities are democrat, crime filled or not.

I think they know that, but the sentiment is useful because it helps them forget the unsavory rankings of state welfare, teen pregnancy, obesity, education, you get the idea.
 

Stewox

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Maybe this should explain what's behind these numbers:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Every black guy should listen to this in whole to find out how you are being used.
 
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Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.

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Jhhnn

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Maybe this should explain what's behind these numbers:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Every black guy should listen to this in whole to find out how you are being used.

That's so fucking ignorant. The host asserts false attribution, a fucking straw man, as fact before the 1:15 mark, which is where I quit so that I wouldn't puke.

If you buy into that shit, you're truly hopeless.
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
Nov 4, 1999
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That's so fucking ignorant. The host asserts false attribution, a fucking straw man, as fact before the 1:15 mark, which is where I quit so that I wouldn't puke.

If you buy into that shit, you're truly hopeless.

You mean Alex Jones isn't the voice of the black man!?!

\shocked I is!
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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There is credible scientific research that indicates that diversity in a society has downsides as well as upsides. The upsides are almost predictable: A clash in viewpoints and cultures is surprisingly productive in terms of leading to creative solutions and innovation. It's what leads cities like New York City and Los Angeles to be world-class creative hubs.

As with anything, there are also downsides: Civic engagement seems to decrease across the board within that diverse community. The phenomenon doesn't seem to be well understood, but there appears to be a "turtling" effect that leads to less voting, volunteering, charity work and so on. The decrease appears to be quite significant.

So there's a trade off. Ultimately I think it's evident that Western nations that embrace immigration come out enormously ahead. Even anecdotally, the forced emigration of both the Jewish and German populations in and around WW2 make it very clear that immigrants tend to self-select as doers; they made escape/survival happen, and they make success happen too. Your run of the mill Internet white supremacist isn't going to agree because that does nothing for his fat ass, but America / Canada / Britain / etc win as a whole (it just might not end up being as white an America as his fat ass hopes it'd be).

This is a really good post. :thumbup:
 

Daverino

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Mar 15, 2007
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You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

Props to you Bober

+1
 

They Live

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I think you'll find that this has more to do with wealth than race. Per capita, blacks are 2 to 3 times as likely to be living below the poverty line in America. Traditionally, Democrats pander to the poor (welfare) and Republicans pander to the middle class/wealthy (tax cuts). It's pretty natural for everyone to vote for what's in their immediate interest, meaning poor blacks are more likely to vote Democrat and less-likely-poor whites are more likely to vote Republican.

You make good points, however poor whites generally vote Republican, and wealthy blacks often vote Democrat. And what about Asians? 73% of them voted for Obama in 2012. I actually thought that was the most interesting thing about the 2012 elections.
 

PieIsAwesome

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All these personal anecdotes about "I don't care what race the people around me are, in fact if anything, I'm MORE comfortable around people of other races! In fact, it weirds me out when I'm surrounded by only other whites, yuck!" are something I'm very familiar with and which sound to my ear like trying too hard. But perhaps I'm wrong. If so, that's great... diversity is our strength, and apparently it's working fantastically!

I would just ask all of you who've said something along those lines to please go tell the Huffington Post and well, every single other media outlet for the last several decades, that they've got it wrong when they constantly publish studies which purport to prove that whites are deeply racist in every facet of how they live their lives, and that this is easily revealed by doing implicit bias tests, hiring studies, studies of when families move out of certain areas or move their kids out of certain schools, etc etc etc...

It's really one of their favorite topics. And I just think they'll be relieved to know that they've got it all wrong, so do please inform them.

No comment on all that research, but I can speak for myself, and when I described my personal anecdote similar to the sort that you describe, it is entirely accurate.
 
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PieIsAwesome

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Ha! Exactly.

I would be shocked if he doesn't have an account on Stormfront or some other white supremacy/separatism forum. He is too obsessed with race, and too hard-wired to blather, to have refrained from doing that. He will not be using the same username or any similar identifying information, since he got busted for his comment on conservativetreehouse to the effect that 85% of all black people were worthless criminals. If memory serves he was using the same avatar but a different username there.

I have not visited stormfront in a long time, but I do remember similar behavior. People pretending to be reasonable.

"Its not you, we have nothing against you! :) We just want a good future for our children. You would want a good future for your children, you should understand.

So please get out of our country."

Lol.