Poll: U.S. Whites More Solidly Behind Republican Party

[Greenman]

. . . Yet as we as a nation have become more diverse, the violent crime rate has steadily dropped over the last twenty years.

What I hear (for roughly the ten thousandth time) is a white man longwindedly justifying his own racism by arguing that everyone is racist, and that being racist is a good thing. You are obsessed with race and finding pseudo-intellectual justifications for your own racism. You are among the least-decent members of a forum which does nothing whatsoever to weed out indecency. Your posts on race (i.e., all your posts) nearly always make me cringe.

I should know better than to ask, but what "full measure" do you believe white people should employ to protect themselves against the scourge that is "dispossession" by people of color?

The fundamental flaw in your logic is the belief that being more comfortable with people of the same race is wrong. It's not, it's perfectly acceptable behavior.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Fuck white people. Fuck Republicans. Did I miss anybody?

 

[Newell Steamer]

Fuck white people. Fuck Republicans. Did I miss anybody?

Quite a bit,...

Fuck white people for not giving their entire wealth to all the poor people.

Fuck Republicans for not forcing white people to give their entire wealth to tall the poor people.

I mean, there ARE reasons. It's not just blind hatred!!

And, it's frustration frankly. Since all the non-whites are still poor. And, all they've been getting most of the white people's white daughters.

White virgin trim don't pay the iPhone bills you know,...

 

[BoberFett]

Yep, which is completely natural, healthy, normal, and appropriate.

White people know that they are happiest and safest when in communities exclusively, or as close to exclusively as possible, comprised of other whites.

That's not me saying something which is up for debate or controversial, btw. That's firmly rooted in crime statistics and widely accepted research on "social capital", civic engagement, etc.

Most whites can't articulate that, or won't, but most of them still know it instinctively. They know that they want to live in a majority white area. They know they'd rather have the cop who pulls them over be white, and the same goes for the jurors who sit at their trial if they should ever have one, the principal of their kid's school, the date their daughter takes to prom, the doctor who treats them, the person who takes their customer support call, the bank teller, etc etc etc.

People feel more comfortable interacting with and living among those who are like themselves. Most of the countries which are highest on the world happiness lists they put out are also some of the most homogeneous countries in the world.

Mass non-white immigration has never been something a majority of the population of any white nation has been in favor of. This is something which has been imposed by a handful of powerful people at the top because they thought they knew better than the rabble below them, or because they wanted cheap labor. These same people who've set so many white nations on a course toward white-minority population always make sure to use their wealth to live in very white areas. I guess it's "diversity for thee, but not for me" as far as they're concerned.

White people see the track record many immigrant groups have in terms of the sorts of societies they left behind, and they are understandably concerned about their societies becoming more like that. Of course they're worried about losing their "privileges" because those privileges are their birth right and were passed down to them by their ancestors. Their ancestors who worked incredibly hard and often had horrendously difficult lives, and who made those nations what they are now. Why should anyone want to see that given to someone else?

It is indeed a privilege to live among others like yourself. The peace of mind that brings is a privilege. The safety that brings is a privilege. When your group has a low crime rate and a high per capita income, it's even more of a privilege. It's a privilege to live in a place with beautiful scenery and which isn't overcrowded with people. Why should anyone want to see such a place transition into being packed with droves of people?

Why should anyone want to see their government become more and more bloated and more and more adept at siphoning tax dollars from them to give to outsiders who are being allowed in to take their jobs and displace them with a higher birth rate?

Wanting to retain your privileges and your birth rights is not crazy. Suicidally and shortsightedly scrambling to give them up is what is crazy.

As the fruits of this behavior become more and more ripe, and more and more visible, you can expect more and more whites to catch a whiff of their own dispossession. They won't like the smell and they will act in ways to avoid that fate, such as supporting the republicans which is unfortunately a half-measure at best. Expect the backlash to become significantly more dramatic in the decades to come.

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

 

[HomerJS]

Not much to see here - this is expected frankly.

Simply based on how the GOP has stated they want to reach out to the non-whites, minorities,.. those that want free stuff, etc.

And we can see that enthusiastic GOP minority outreach.

 

[norseamd]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

+1

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

Solidly agree with you on this.

 

[Vic]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

:thumbup:

 

[Zorba]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

:thumbsup:

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I would say this thread is fork ready

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

I don't always give a thumb's up to BoberFett posts, but when I do, I prefer this one. :thumbsup:

 

[norseamd]

not sure if you entirely understood my question? i was asking if a racially mixed population that thought of themselves as texans and not americans or mexicans was fine with you?

Of course I am fine with that.

and this

 

[First]

So not a single thing I typed there was true, eh? I guess I'd be interested in hearing your alternate explanation for white flight then. Or the well established fact that white parents pull their kids out of schools almost without fail when they start to get sufficiently diverse. Or a thousand other examples of that sort of thing. The liberal media actually loves providing examples of how "racist" whites are in these ways. I guess when someone like myself who views it differently points out these same well-established things, suddenly that same evidence is non-existent?

None of that is well established except in your own mind using your own distorted sources, and no doubt in the preferred context you'd like said "well established" statistics to mean (i.e. through the lens of white privilege). As someone else mentioned in this thread, there has been a drastic reduction in crime in the last 20 years despite a huge increase in racial diversity and minority upward mobility, which directly contradicts the fear you claim whites innately have for diverse communities due to crime, mistrust or simply being "different".

I reposted nothing. Stop accusing people of shit they aren't doing, it's intellectually stupid and annoying.

Sure you did. You reposted this tripe nearly verbatim.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I think you'll find that this has more to do with wealth than race. Per capita, blacks are 2 to 3 times as likely to be living below the poverty line in America. Traditionally, Democrats pander to the poor (welfare) and Republicans pander to the middle class/wealthy (tax cuts). It's pretty natural for everyone to vote for what's in their immediate interest, meaning poor blacks are more likely to vote Democrat and less-likely-poor whites are more likely to vote Republican.

 

[zinfamous]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

preach it, Ron Swanson!

 

[raildogg]

So the tribalistic mentality is still alive and well?

 

[Geosurface]

So the tribalistic mentality is still alive and well?

Of course, only one group on the planet has even attempted to extinguish it. That group is whites, they represent a small fraction of humanity (smaller every day) and they have had very limited success. Most of the apparent success is an illusion.

Tribalism isn't going anywhere, and it certainly never was gone.

 

[Vic]

Of course, only one group on the planet has even attempted to extinguish it. That group is whites, they represent a small fraction of humanity (smaller every day) and they have had very limited success. Most of the apparent success is an illusion.

Tribalism isn't going anywhere, and it certainly never was gone.

I find it ironic that you have Jefferson as your avatar while espousing views that all men are NOT created equal.

 

[dank69]

You're a racist piece of shit. Intelligent, well adjusted people don't care what color their police, doctors or bank tellers are. They care that they're good, honest people.

I'm not one of "your people" just because I'm white. I'd much rather everyone around me be black, Hispanic, Asian, or any other ethnicity than be anywhere near you, you ignorant asshole.

I'm dank69 and I approve this message.

 

[norseamd]

I find it ironic that you have Jefferson as your avatar while espousing views that all men are NOT created equal.

+1 for being so observant

 

[raildogg]

Of course, only one group on the planet has even attempted to extinguish it. That group is whites, they represent a small fraction of humanity (smaller every day) and they have had very limited success. Most of the apparent success is an illusion.

Tribalism isn't going anywhere, and it certainly never was gone.

Tribalism has many forms, not just living in a hut-filled village. It can be the education, it can be what values a society instills in its young, etc. I was talking about the mind being tribal, which it is, in whites and others. We humans are tribal in every way and yes, it isn't getting better. It's getting more sophisticated but the problem remains.

And, your statement that whites attempted to extinguish tribalism? With their tribalistic minds? Not possible.

Humans with their selfish minds cannot extinguish any problem whatsoever.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Stuff

I realize you've posted some info before, but I don't have the time to go through it in anywhere as much detail as you have.

Anecdotally, though, I don't find that to be entirely accurate. I personally would not feel more comfortable in a place with mostly XX race of people. It honestly makes no difference to me if the cop that pulls me over is white or black or whatever. I am used to being around people of various backgrounds since, well, since always. Fellow students have been mostly white, asian, hispanic, some middle eastern. Coworkers are white, hispanic, black. Neighbors are white, asian, hispanic. Lots of Persian origin professors. Doctor, dentist, optometrist, opticians are of middle eastern, asian, white, and hispanic background.

Totally normal and comfortable for me.

I will say that things do feel more weird when I am somewhere where most people are some minority, rather than mostly white, depending on how foreign or unpleasant their behavior is. I am not white though.

Not true for everyone. I actually feel much more comfortable when I live and work around all sorts of people - part of the reason why I really like living in Atlanta.

+1

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I find it ironic that you have Jefferson as your avatar while espousing views that all men are NOT created equal.

It is certainly an interesting choice for this forum's Grand Dragon. Next thing you know it, spidey will be using MLK as an avatar.

 

[Geosurface]

I find it ironic that you have Jefferson as your avatar while espousing views that all men are NOT created equal.

Lol, you should spend some time reading more of Jefferson's writings if you think I'm speaking in a way he'd disagree with.

The version of Jefferson they try to create in peoples' minds is considerably more PC than he really was.

He didn't literally mean "all of humanity" by "all men." That should be fairly self-evident from his writings, the views of all the founding fathers and the limitations they put on who could become an American citizen in the 1790 immigration standards (free white people) and oh um, the fact that he and many of the others held slaves? That might be a pretty big tip off.

You do know that his famously quoted line which appears on his memorial: "Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free... actually continues on with: "Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them."

Doesn't quite sound like he felt "all men are created equal" in the way a modern person might be tempted to interpret it. Does it?

Fact is, I'm actually considerably more tolerant and egalitarian than he was. Not the other way around.

 

[zinfamous]

I find it ironic that you have Jefferson as your avatar while espousing views that all men are NOT created equal.

I think he realized that using Starscream/Goebbels was a bit too obvious....