POLL :: Tupac vs Biggie

[phantom309]

Comedy "they both lose, Suge Knight and P. Diddy win" option.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: anxi80

Grab ya glocks, when you see Tupac
Call the cops, when you see Tupac
Who shot me, but ya punks didn't finish
Now ya bout to feel the wrath of a menace...

I'm from n-e-w jerz where plenty murders occur!

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80
2pac. never liked biggie. i can tolerate like 2-3 tracks, but thats about it.

Oh, true. I won't deny that Biggie wasn't bad, I listened to some of his stuff...Juicy, Goin' Back to Cali, etc

yep. i agree. but honestly, i dont need to hear a skit about him defacting on a girl. (was kinda funny though). iunno, pac always came more real, he had a better style, flow, and lyrics. he would tell a story with his lyrics, and it came out good. 1 month away from the makaveli predicted 7 years.

True. And, Pac, he could bring you up with one song and then tell a totally different story in another thats depressing. He was amazing. Yep, Sept 13th is the day. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...

What's expected to happen? Is that supposed to be his 'return from the dead', and if so, what song (?) is it referenced in? I dunno too much about that whole thing.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: RishiS

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80
2pac. never liked biggie. i can tolerate like 2-3 tracks, but thats about it.

Oh, true. I won't deny that Biggie wasn't bad, I listened to some of his stuff...Juicy, Goin' Back to Cali, etc

yep. i agree. but honestly, i dont need to hear a skit about him defacting on a girl. (was kinda funny though). iunno, pac always came more real, he had a better style, flow, and lyrics. he would tell a story with his lyrics, and it came out good. 1 month away from the makaveli predicted 7 years.

True. And, Pac, he could bring you up with one song and then tell a totally different story in another thats depressing. He was amazing. Yep, Sept 13th is the day. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...

What's expected to happen? Is that supposed to be his 'return from the dead', and if so, what song (?) is it referenced in? I dunno too much about that whole thing.

Read this: The 7-Year Theory or this: Tupac Alive?

 

[Corporate Thug]

grab your glocks when see Tupac!!!

seriously, tupac was part rapper part poet. much better than biggie, but biggie was tight too

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: RishiS

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80
2pac. never liked biggie. i can tolerate like 2-3 tracks, but thats about it.

Oh, true. I won't deny that Biggie wasn't bad, I listened to some of his stuff...Juicy, Goin' Back to Cali, etc

yep. i agree. but honestly, i dont need to hear a skit about him defacting on a girl. (was kinda funny though). iunno, pac always came more real, he had a better style, flow, and lyrics. he would tell a story with his lyrics, and it came out good. 1 month away from the makaveli predicted 7 years.

True. And, Pac, he could bring you up with one song and then tell a totally different story in another thats depressing. He was amazing. Yep, Sept 13th is the day. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...

What's expected to happen? Is that supposed to be his 'return from the dead', and if so, what song (?) is it referenced in? I dunno too much about that whole thing.

Read this: The 7-Year Theory or this: Tupac Alive?

Oh boy, I bet he's off hiding on some island with Elvis and Hoffa too.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: Whisper
Heh, hit 'em up is by far the best battle-type song that I've heard. Puts what went on between LL and Canibus, and more recently Eminem and Ja Rule to shame.

Then again, DMX is pretty good at that stuff, too.

Yeah but ja rule can't bring it...

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: RishiS

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80
2pac. never liked biggie. i can tolerate like 2-3 tracks, but thats about it.

Oh, true. I won't deny that Biggie wasn't bad, I listened to some of his stuff...Juicy, Goin' Back to Cali, etc

yep. i agree. but honestly, i dont need to hear a skit about him defacting on a girl. (was kinda funny though). iunno, pac always came more real, he had a better style, flow, and lyrics. he would tell a story with his lyrics, and it came out good. 1 month away from the makaveli predicted 7 years.

True. And, Pac, he could bring you up with one song and then tell a totally different story in another thats depressing. He was amazing. Yep, Sept 13th is the day. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...

What's expected to happen? Is that supposed to be his 'return from the dead', and if so, what song (?) is it referenced in? I dunno too much about that whole thing.

Read this: The 7-Year Theory or this: Tupac Alive?

Oh boy, I bet he's off hiding on some island with Elvis and Hoffa too.

When Sept 13th comes and goes and nothing happens, then I will lose all belief...

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: Whisper
Heh, hit 'em up is by far the best battle-type song that I've heard. Puts what went on between LL and Canibus, and more recently Eminem and Ja Rule to shame.

Then again, DMX is pretty good at that stuff, too.

Yeah but ja rule can't bring it...

eminem used the beat to hit em up to do a whitty ford diss, it was hot too

 

[PoPPeR]

huge tupac fan, and a huge biggie fan. For sheer #'s of great songs, I'd take Tupac, but Biggie has some amazing songs too. They both released classic albums. rip

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: Josh
Easy poll. Choose.

'Pac is my choice, just a better overall lyricist.

I know there are a lot of hip-hop haters in this forum, please just stay away from the thread and let the people who enjoy the music/culture enjoy this thread as well. Thanks

Tupac utilized rather simple rhyme schemes and eschewed from the use of metaphor and simile. His strength was his charismatic delivery. Notorious BIG?s lyrics, on the otherhand, were ten times as sophisticated as Tupac?s.

Lets take a look at two four bar phrases

Example- Tupac- Hit Em Up

Now you tell me who won? I see them, they run
Hehehehe, they don't wanna see us
Whole Junior M.A.F.I.A. click dressin up tryin to be us
How the fvck they gon' be the mob when we always on our job

LoL, he rhymed us with us.

Example- Jay-Z- Brooklyn?s Finest feat. Notorious BIG

Me and Gutter had two spots
The two for five dollar hits, the blue tops
Gotta go, Coolio mean it's gettin "Too Hot"
If Faith (Evans, his wife) had twins, she'd probably have two-Pac's Get it?, Tu-pac's

note the reference to Coolio?s song Too Hot.

or two verses

Example- Notorious BIG- Everyday Struggle

I had the master plan
I'm in the caravan on my way to Maryland
with my man Two-Tecs to take over this projects
They call him Two-Tecs, he tote two tecs
And when he start to bust he like to ask, "Who's next?"
I got my honey on the Amtrak
with the crack in the crack of her @$$
Two pounds of hash in the stash
I wait for hon to make some quick cash
I told her she could be Lieutenant, (trick) got gassed
At last, I'm literally loungin black
Sittin back, countin double digit thousand stacks
Had to re-up; see what's up with my peeps
Toyota Deal-a-Thon had it cheap on the Jeeps
See who got smoked, what rumors was spread
Last I heard I was dead with six to the head
Then I got the phone call, it couldn't hit me harder
We got infiltrated, like Nino at the Carter
Heard Tec got murdered in a town I never heard of
by some (trick) named Alberta over nickel-plated burners
And my (trick) swear to God she won't snitch
I told her when she hit the bricks I'll make the hooker rich
Conspiracy, she'll be home in three
Until then I looks out for the whole family
A true G, that's me, blowing like a bubble;
in the everyday struggle

verse

Example- Tupac-

When I was young me and my mama had beef
Seventeen years old kicked out on the streets
Though back at the time, I never thought I'd see her face
Ain't a woman alive that could take my mama's place
Suspended from school; and scared to go home, I was a fool
with the big boys, breakin all the rules
I shed tears with my baby sister
Over the years we was poorer than the other little kids
And even though we had different daddy's, the same drama
When things went wrong we'd blame mama
I reminice on the stress I caused, it was hell
Huggin on my mama from a jail cell
And who'd think in elementary?
Heeey! I see the penitentiary, one day
And runnin from the police, that's right
Mama catch me, put a whoopin to my backside
And even as a crack fiend, mama
You always was a black queen, mama
I finally understand
for a woman it ain't easy tryin to raise a man
You always was committed
A poor single mother on welfare, tell me how ya did it
There's no way I can pay you back
But the plan is to show you that I understand
You are appreciated

If you closely examine Notorious BIG?s lyrical patterns, you?ll notice that he utilizes the same internal rhyme scheme that eminem uses today in songs like ?8-mile? and ?Without Me.? It?s unfortunate that Biggie couldn?t incorporate the use of these rhyme patterns in his radio songs due to objections by P. Diddy.

Don?t get me wrong Tupac was by all means a more significant rap icon than Notorious BIG, but I believe that many people are blinded by Tupac?s glitz and flair and overlook Biggie?s lyrical prowlness.

 

[anxi80]

not to refute all the work you just put into that post, but the examples you picked for pac are kind of unjust. in the hit em quote, you took a part at the end of the track where he's actually talking more than rapping. actually, that part was meant more as a trash talk then a actual rapping verse. and in the second example, biggie talks about drugs and guns, surprise surprise. im not saying pac doesnt talk about it also, but the song you compared it to, he's talking about his life while he was growing up. the song has a slower tempo to it, and is meant as a more serious song, a tribute if you will, not necessarily a rowdy rap track. just my 2 cents though.

edit: fixed spelling. or at least tried to.

 

[stevens]

Im more a BIG fan than a Tupac. Tupacs stuff was great i just didnt like the sound as much as BIGs.

 

[CT2TXtech]

Originally posted by: Gnote

Originally posted by: Josh
Easy poll. Choose.

'Pac is my choice, just a better overall lyricist.

I know there are a lot of hip-hop haters in this forum, please just stay away from the thread and let the people who enjoy the music/culture enjoy this thread as well. Thanks

Tupac utilized rather simple rhyme schemes and eschewed from the use of metaphor and simile. His strength was his charismatic delivery. Notorious BIG?s lyrics, on the otherhand, were ten times as sophisticated as Tupac?s.

Lets take a look at two four bar phrases

Example- Tupac- Hit Em Up

Now you tell me who won? I see them, they run
Hehehehe, they don't wanna see us
Whole Junior M.A.F.I.A. click dressin up tryin to be us
How the fvck they gon' be the mob when we always on our job

LoL, he rhymed us with us.

Example- Jay-Z- Brooklyn?s Finest feat. Notorious BIG

Me and Gutter had two spots
The two for five dollar hits, the blue tops
Gotta go, Coolio mean it's gettin "Too Hot"
If Faith (Evans, his wife) had twins, she'd probably have two-Pac's Get it?, Tu-pac's

note the reference to Coolio?s song Too Hot.

or two verses

Example- Notorious BIG- Everyday Struggle

I had the master plan
I'm in the caravan on my way to Maryland
with my man Two-Tecs to take over this projects
They call him Two-Tecs, he tote two tecs
And when he start to bust he like to ask, "Who's next?"
I got my honey on the Amtrak
with the crack in the crack of her @$$
Two pounds of hash in the stash
I wait for hon to make some quick cash
I told her she could be Lieutenant, (trick) got gassed
At last, I'm literally loungin black
Sittin back, countin double digit thousand stacks
Had to re-up; see what's up with my peeps
Toyota Deal-a-Thon had it cheap on the Jeeps
See who got smoked, what rumors was spread
Last I heard I was dead with six to the head
Then I got the phone call, it couldn't hit me harder
We got infiltrated, like Nino at the Carter
Heard Tec got murdered in a town I never heard of
by some (trick) named Alberta over nickel-plated burners
And my (trick) swear to God she won't snitch
I told her when she hit the bricks I'll make the hooker rich
Conspiracy, she'll be home in three
Until then I looks out for the whole family
A true G, that's me, blowing like a bubble;
in the everyday struggle

verse

Example- Tupac-

When I was young me and my mama had beef
Seventeen years old kicked out on the streets
Though back at the time, I never thought I'd see her face
Ain't a woman alive that could take my mama's place
Suspended from school; and scared to go home, I was a fool
with the big boys, breakin all the rules
I shed tears with my baby sister
Over the years we was poorer than the other little kids
And even though we had different daddy's, the same drama
When things went wrong we'd blame mama
I reminice on the stress I caused, it was hell
Huggin on my mama from a jail cell
And who'd think in elementary?
Heeey! I see the penitentiary, one day
And runnin from the police, that's right
Mama catch me, put a whoopin to my backside
And even as a crack fiend, mama
You always was a black queen, mama
I finally understand
for a woman it ain't easy tryin to raise a man
You always was committed
A poor single mother on welfare, tell me how ya did it
There's no way I can pay you back
But the plan is to show you that I understand
You are appreciated

If you closely examine Notorious BIG?s lyrical patterns, you?ll notice that he utilizes the same internal rhyme scheme that eminem uses today in songs like ?8-mile? and ?Without Me.? It?s unfortunate that Biggie couldn?t incorporate the use of these rhyme patterns in his radio songs due to objections by P. Diddy.

Don?t get me wrong Tupac was by all means a more significant rap icon than Notorious BIG, but I believe that many people are blinded by Tupac?s glitz and flair and overlook Biggie?s lyrical prowlness.

Wow, this guy just broke it down for the forum. I agree with everything you jsut said. Biggie was a wayy better rhymer. Pac just had all the character

 

[Bleep]

BIG He was so good looking and had a great body. And I liked the fact that he smiled all the time. His face was so kind.

Bleep

 

[imported_Papi]

biggie was exactly what he looks like a big fat lazy bastard who couldnt even stand up to sing.

no tallent

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: yayo
biggie was exactly what he looks like a big fat lazy bastard who couldnt even stand up to sing.

no tallent

bwahahah. tell it like it is yayo!

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: yayo
biggie was exactly what he looks like a big fat lazy bastard who couldnt even stand up to sing.

no tallent

bwahahah. tell it like it is yayo!

Ahh, i'm not even going to touch this one, because if I do, the thread will devolve into a RAP is CRAP thread...

 

[Harvey]

Where's the option for None of the above? AFIC, they both suck.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: Gnote

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: yayo
biggie was exactly what he looks like a big fat lazy bastard who couldnt even stand up to sing.

no tallent

bwahahah. tell it like it is yayo!

Ahh, i'm not even going to touch this one, because if I do, the thread will devolve into a RAP is CRAP thread...

lol, i was kidding around. i even listed some biggie tracks i listen to. im not taking anything away from BIG, its just i dont see him on the same platform or skill-level or hit single level as pac.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: RishiS

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: anxi80
2pac. never liked biggie. i can tolerate like 2-3 tracks, but thats about it.

Oh, true. I won't deny that Biggie wasn't bad, I listened to some of his stuff...Juicy, Goin' Back to Cali, etc

yep. i agree. but honestly, i dont need to hear a skit about him defacting on a girl. (was kinda funny though). iunno, pac always came more real, he had a better style, flow, and lyrics. he would tell a story with his lyrics, and it came out good. 1 month away from the makaveli predicted 7 years.

True. And, Pac, he could bring you up with one song and then tell a totally different story in another thats depressing. He was amazing. Yep, Sept 13th is the day. Guess we'll just have to wait and see...

What's expected to happen? Is that supposed to be his 'return from the dead', and if so, what song (?) is it referenced in? I dunno too much about that whole thing.

Read this: The 7-Year Theory or this: Tupac Alive?

Oh boy, I bet he's off hiding on some island with Elvis and Hoffa too.

When Sept 13th comes and goes and nothing happens, then I will lose all belief...

You mean you actually believe it?

 

[imported_Papi]

BïG SHïT thats about it.....

he was one muggly fvcker too. NASTTY with two T's

 

[Rufio]

2pac rules

snoop is the best

 

[SinnerWolf]

who cares neither of them are worth a poll....but ill say tupac because he only contributed a third of the compost that big did, physically at least.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Tupac was a HORRIBLE rapper IMO - just no natural flow whatsoever. He was a very charismatic guy, though, and I would not have been surprised to see him make it as an actor. I felt Biggie was vastly more talented musically, though he was nothing extraordinary either.