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POLL: Should we start executing Sex Offenders?

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Originally posted by: EngineNr9
I thought Jesus said something about how the true measure of a society is how they treat the least of their own.

Sex offenders live out their problems by imposing them on other people. I think we do the same thing when we execute people. Our problem is that via our human insecurities we are threatened by the facing of the fact that we are all vulnerable to such evil.

Are people born into this world with a mission to rape and kill? Or does something happen somewhere along the way. I think that people are victimized themselves early on, at such a point where they deeply internalize it. Then I think it is carried into adulthood, as a kind of a closed circuit of negative thought, an endless looping of memory reels.

Engine,

Let me bottom line it for you. The least of our own is not the sex criminal who steals the innocence of children. The least of our own are those, who no fault of their own, are victimized by cruel and unusual animals posing as adult humans. The bible also says that something with regard to the wicked that will be thrown into the pit of fire -the trees that bore no fruit. It is now time to toss those branches into the pit.

Their belly is their god, and by their own acts carried out by their own hands will they be judged - and condemned - to death. May God have mercy on their souls, and bless those that have suffered and been tortured by those with an unquenchable thirst for children.
 
" Released rapists are 10.5 times as likely as non-rape related felons to be re-arrested for rape. Those who have served time for other sexual assaults are 7.5 times as likely as those convicted of other crimes to be arrested for a new sexual assault"

On chemical castration:

While depo-provera may be effective in lowering sex drive, administering this drug does not address the real motivation behind this behavior. Furthermore, there is no proven effective "cure" for pedophiles, which means that chemical castration has no value for these criminals. Another criticism is the lack of uniform guidelines for use of chemical castration across the states. And what incentives are avilable to insure that criminals will continue treatment once they are released from custody?
 
It's Gods job to throw the wicked into the fire. You know what else though, I think they have already been cast into the fire. Do you think people who molest children are happy? Or do you think their world is hell on earth and that is why they do such horrible things to begin with.

What I am supposing is that the criminal is created of a victim, who unconciously seeks to perpetuate the negative cycle by victimizing others himself. Same thing.
 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
It's Gods job to throw the wicked into the fire. You know what else though, I think they have already been cast into the fire. Do you think people who molest children are happy? Or do you think their world is hell on earth and that is why they do such horrible things to begin with.

What I am supposing is that the criminal is created of a victim, who unconciously seeks to perpetuate the negative cycle by victimizing others himself. Same thing.

Our society creates criminals to an extent. We all have a measure of free will, but circumstances force some people down a path that they might not ever have taken. But once they take the path, they get to face the consequences.

Yes it's sad that such and such a criminal was molested and beaten and really had no chance. But he is what he is and should be treated as such: a criminal.
 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
'Criminal' is a word, a label, that's not what he really is.

What he really is, is what we really are too.

Thats it Engine, you silly Liberal, keep talking in riddles. Makes you look really smart.😉
 
There is no riddle. There is only life, and the infinite number of paths that people follow. We don't always choose the cards we're dealt; when someone is on a path of destruction they need healing.

 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
There is no riddle. There is only life, and the infinite number of paths that people follow. We don't always choose the cards we're dealt; when someone is on a path of destruction they need healing.

How does one attain healing?
 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
There is no riddle. There is only life, and the infinite number of paths that people follow. We don't always choose the cards we're dealt; when someone is on a path of destruction they need healing.

Okay, so I guess the nature of man is one wholly determined by our environment. We have no free will everybody!
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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: BladeWalker
Death sentences are a bit harsh. But life sentences for repeat offenders should be the way to go. To ease your mind a bit, most sex offenders are targets for other inmates.

BTW, your poll sucks.

Are you offering to suck my poll? Pervert!

You're the one with the dirty mind, bud. Given the options of your poll, it suggests that you are too close-minded to value anybody else's opinion.
 
No. Because if you execute sex offenders, they'll have nothing to lose by killing their victims, witnesses, cops who try to arrest them, etc., and something to gain by reducing their chance of getting caught. For this exact reason the punishment must have some granularity to make every additional crime bring additional punishment to a certain point.
If you make "sex offence" punishable by death, killing the victim, and everything else, will be a freebie.
Also, "sex offender" has been extended to mean statutory rape, kiddie porn possesion, indescent exposure, etc.
I don't think some 19 year old screwing his 17 year old gf desrves to die.
 
Originally posted by: SuperTool
No. Because if you execute sex offenders, they'll have nothing to lose by killing their victims, witnesses, cops who try to arrest them, etc., and something to gain by reducing their chance of getting caught. For this exact reason the punishment must have some granularity to make every additional crime bring additional punishment to a certain point.
If you make "sex offence" punishable by death, killing the victim, and everything else, will be a freebie.
Also, "sex offender" has been extended to mean statutory rape, kiddie porn possesion, indescent exposure, etc.
I don't think some 19 year old screwing his 17 year old gf desrves to die.

First, in many states the age of consent is 16.

Second, here in Oregon where the age of consent is 18 there is a three year window before it's considered statutory rape. I'm sure many other states have similar loopholes.

Third, I don't think anyone is advocating the death penalty for statutory rape.

Viper GTS
 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
You are framing things for yourself such that it has to be either black or white. Life is full color.

this dude knows whats up.
however, i do this some amount of accountablity must be held in order to keep our society functioning in a way that benefits the most amount of people.
so...really, there has to be some punishment beyond the will of the universe.

 
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
I voted yes, but a better solution would be castration. And maybe a pre-frontal lobotomy.

Again on castration:

While depo-provera may be effective in lowering sex drive, administering this drug does not address the real motivation behind this behavior. Furthermore, there is no proven effective "cure" for pedophiles, which means that chemical castration has no value for these criminals. Another criticism is the lack of uniform guidelines for use of chemical castration across the states. And what incentives are avilable to insure that criminals will continue treatment once they are released from custody?
 
No. IMO, the purpose of prison is to protect society and rehabilitate convicts, not to hurt criminals. For those that can't be rehabilitated, keep them in prison forever. The death penalty has no place in our society.
 
I don't believe in the Death Penalty as some innocent people have been and will be killed. I say you diddle a child you do life in prison with no chance of parole for 15 years. The second time you spend the rest of your life in a Super-Maximum prison such as the one in Marion, Illinois and you NEVER get out! You die in prison!:|
 
Capitol punishment and rape are the only crimes that deserve such a response from society. It should be reserved for the most greusome and horrible crimes, and decided on an individual basis by the courts. No, I dont think a 19 yr old screwing his 17yr old gf constitutes such a crime, but someone who shows complete and utter disregard for women and human life in general should be executed without any regard to theirs.
 
Originally posted by: ggavinmoss
No. And I'm sick of your one-sided polls. They discourage serious discussion of whatever topic you propose.

-geoff

Im intrigued by your emotional outburst...please elaborate...especially the part about my poll being 'one sided'.
 
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