Poll: Should Marijuana be legalized?

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pen^2

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<raises both hands frantically>

ppl still argue over this? i thought at lesat ppl at AT were smart enuff not to be fooled by govt propaganda...
 

Cpt. Duke

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Marijuana should be legalized for so many reasons. In my opinion jails are for crooks, thugs and killers. So what if some guy wants to get high.

I really love living in the land of the free, having to worry about going to jail for enjoying a plant responsibly! Oh yeah!
 

Basse

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As far as I think, people are responsible for their own actions. I don't like the whole concept of a large institution being able to tell me exactly what I can and can't do. If I want to smoke my head into oblivion using pot, its completely up to me. As long as there does not exist a chance that I would physically hurt someone else, and there doesn't, I see no reason why it shouldn't be legalized.

It is however a proven fact that pot is more hazardous than cigs. The 7:1 is a bit confusing. What exists 7 times more in pot in comparison to cigarettes? I know for a fact that pot has alot more tar in it, which causes lung cancer and so on.

I can only dig up links to Swedish sites backing this up, but if any Swedish folks disagree with my statement I will put them up.

/B
 

SackOfAllTrades

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what about the second hand highs? if everyone was toking up, wouldn't the non-smokers nearby be affected as well? i know second hand cigarette smoke is bad, it does mess with your head as much in terms of second hand smoke inhalation.
 

Basse

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Sack:

That is not a question of legalizing Marijuana, its a question of legalizing and defining where it should be allowed to be smoked once it is legalized as a substance.
 

radiocore

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decriminalize it. People should be able to decide for themselves what they want to do. As long as they don't affect anyone else in a harmful way. Treat it like cigs or alcohol. ;)
 

jyrixx

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it's a tough question that may never have an answer. on one hand, the government could make a lot of money, there are lots and lots of pot smokers our there. it would free up jails, police would have better things to do then chase pot heads. but, then think about this. would you want to go to the store and buy already rolled joints, that probably have new chemicals in them? probably not. plus, all the dealers out there now are gonna still be dealing, and there gonna go at it more hardcore if it's legal. which gives the government competition. the only way the governemtn would legalize it, is if they were in control of it, FULLY.
but, i don't really know what i'm talking about, that's just my thought.

personally, i could care less. i don't smoke. and that's all i care about.
 

AncientPC

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Marijuana should not be legalized. Why? Like someone earlier pointed out, marijuana may not be _that_ bad but legalizing it would lead to troubles with other drugs. It's kinda like feeding a dog a biscuit or something. It doesn't hurt the dog if you give it once in a while but after a period of time the dog wants a biscuit every day and maybe stops touching its own food.

By legalizing marijuana you raise expectations to people with how much they can get away with. Americans can't handle alcohol based upon the culture reasons for drinking. What reasons are there in America for drinking? For any reason you can come up with.

In other countries in Europe and Asia, drinking is started at a much earlier age but because people either don't get drunk, don't drive, or don't find a reason to drink is why the rules are more lax. If Americans in general can't even handle alcohol, why should you legalize marijuana?
 

Ornery

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Why are the ONLY logical arguments being posted by the pro pot crowd? :Q

You anti guys are embarrassing yourselves! :p
 

Cpt. Duke

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AncientPC --

it's interesting that you bring up the Europeans and how they deal with alcohol. The reason that it's not considered as much a problem there is because alcohol is introduced at the family level at an earlier age. This allows children a consequence free environment where they can learn about it. Compare this to the US where many times a kid will drink with his friends and then come home either getting in trouble with his parents or having to hide his behavior from them. . .
I think that we as a society need to understand that drinking as well as drugs are a part of life, especially with teens. Ignoring the problem does not solve it, it makes it worse.

Concerning marijuana, your logic does not have much basis. In a recent study it was found that 23% of American high school seniors have smoked marijuana in the last year. By comparison, in the Netherlands, where it is legal, the researchers found the number to be 18%. The reason the number is lower, is because marijuana isn't considered such a big deal, especially through the eyes of a young person who may be wishing to be rebellious.

Lastly, concerning your dog-biscuit analogy, may I ask, what are you smoking?
 

Thorn

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This is going to shock some people...

Decriminalize it!!! I see no difference between it and alcohol, and to be honest, it's much less physically/mentally/emotionally harmful.

No, I personally don't smoke it now, although at one time I was known to light a bowl or two.
 

Thegonagle

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I say decriminalize the ish! Run up some additional sales taxes on it, like alcohol. Use the taxes for better chemical awareness education. Education is the key here, IMO. Stupid vocal FAR-right wackos don't seem to like education beyond reading, 'riting, and 'rithmetic however, so I don't see it happening like that.


<<Rich blokes toke Doak's.>>
 
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I don't think I support the legalization of pot, but I would support a more sensible policy towards victimless crimes. Even in Amsterdam, pot isn't technically legal....they just don't waste their resources trying to control the flow of pot through their society.
 

Hamburgerpimp

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Kosugi

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Never smoked pot, never wanted to. Seemed stupid too me, and I do enough stupid things in life without being under the influence of a narcotic...


But,


Whatever you choose to do is fine with me. You smoke, go ahead. But I wan't it kept illegal. I have a 15 year old son that I would not want to be exposed to it until he is through his impressionable years. If he chooses to be a &quot;pot-head&quot; after he is 21, then that is his choice and he will have to deal with the consequences. But I don't think they should be putting people in jail for it.

Unless...

A person is on or near school property, or YMCA's or whatever, and have pot on them. To me, they are just pushers, and would be a bad influence.

Look, you do what you want, but don't use the drug to influence others. You do that, and you could be punished. But as far as individual growing and consumption, it is up to the person to choose. Hopefully, they will make the wise choice, but it isn't up to the rest of us to baby-sit anyone.

my 2 pence.
 

Ultima200

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Basically all of my reasons for Decriminalization or leagalization were mentioned. All u people who say &quot;Well weed is a drug and all drugs should be illegal!&quot; NEWSFLASH! Tobacco, alcohol, aspirin, advil, coffee, pepsi, ALL DRUGS! You may be saying to yourself &quot;Well those drugs dont alter your mind, so HAHA in your face!&quot; Hmm, I dont even need to explain myself on this one...but let me say this: Of course THC alters the mind! You know what else does? Sex, fear anger all of those things.

THe bottome line is that the effect of THC is TEMPORARY!!! Weed does NOT cause brain cells to die. The test that said this actually cut off air form the test monkeys, killing brain cells. Short term memory loss? WHen u are high, u are thinking in the present! It is widely known that yout short term memory somes back once you are sober (that is why they call it sober, right?).

I find it hard to believe that the government restricts my right to use marijuana. No one should have the right to tell you what you can and cannot do to your body.

As for if anything will ever change? Of course it will, it will just take a long time. The more people that are pro-marijuana (or whatever you want to call it) the easier it will to have the laws changed. Eventually a newer generation will go into congress and the house, which will greatly influence the decision making.
 
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<In response to vi_edit's eloquent posting about alcohol>
My uncle has been an alcoholic for thirty years. My grandfather is an alcoholic(Though he no longer drinks) and I have a great possibility that I may become an alcoholic. After seeing my uncle, and my grandfather go through alcoholism, I am VERY scared of alcohol. SCARED because I see what kind of person it makes you become. I have smoked marijuana on several occasions, and and it changes my basic personality about as much as a cup of COFFEE. Thank you for being INFORMED!
 

sandmanwake

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I don't drink (alcohol or coffee) and I don't smoke, but I'm still for legalization of marijuana. Some people have brought up the point already that the experiments that were conducted which shows how harmful marijuana is were improperly conducted. In fact, I believe one of the early studies which shows it causes brain damage was ruled as being properly conducted by the AMA themselves. However, no one brought up the fact that marijuana/hemp is quite a useful plant. It can be used to make fuel, which would help with the rising gas prices, lessen dependency on oil exporting nations, one acre of hemp is worth 4 acres of trees, since hemp can also be used to make paper, and building materials, rope, ect. Check out these links:

http://www.hempnet.com/
http://www.hempnation.com/
http://www.marijuana-hemp.com/

Hemp doesn't require pesticides, and can be harvested 4 times a year. Hemp gives more fiber than the cotton grown in the same amount of land, and it can grow in even poor soil, enriching it. By the way, hemp was the original name of marijuana in the English language, it's also known as cannabis from Greek for canvas, which hemp can be used to make. The name marijuana is the Spanish version of the same plant and was popularized by a guy who started calling hemp by that name to associate hemp with the Spanish thereby feeding off some Americans' predjudice of Spanish people in a campain to outlaw hemp. Why you ask? Well as previously stated, a lot of items can be made from hemp (with no toxic waste, ie paint, as opposed to the processes which currently exist, many of which do leave toxic residues) which would have competed with a certain other chemical company's processes. This same man who owned the newspaper was involved with the chemical company somehow, I forget, perhaps it's in one of those links or you can do some research on your own.

Gateway drug? What about the Netherlands? It's legal there and drug use is lower. Doesn't quite prove the gateway drug theory.

Oh, one other thing, a while back, some Asian countries tried to ban tobacco, making it an illegal drug. The tobacco lobbists did there thing in Washington and lo and behold, the US threated a trade embargo if tobacco was banned, afterall, the US need that extra cash from exports. Now take the same thing with other countries importing marijuana, suddenly we have a war on crime where the US must protect it's poor citizens who don't have the brains to make their own choices from this dangerous drug, but tobacco is ok.

Eh, I'm starting to ramble now, so go forth and do some research before just spouting things anyone, even myself, told you. Just so long as the research doesn't involve you smoking any bongs. I may be for legalization of hemp, but that doesn't mean I would approve of people using it to smoke if they don't have a legitimate medical reason to do so, especially around me.