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ribbon13

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Oh yeah.... Here's praying for Seagate to release 15,000rpm 16mb SAS drives. Raptors go the way of dinosaurs. Oh wait...
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Oh yeah.... Here's praying for Seagate to release 15,000rpm 16mb SAS drives. Raptors go the way of dinosaurs. Oh wait...
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Haa ha!
 
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Lifer
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Seagate will be releaseing 15k SAS. I would love to see a combo SAS and SCSI adapter. That would provide the ultiamate in flexabilaty
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: rikadik
Can somone explain what SAS is exactly? In dumbed-down terms :confused:
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Here is what you need to know:
http://now.eloqua.com/es.asp?s=261&e=AB...0&elq=7A62E7106B8B46C5BD9F6652BF5B3614
Also SAS will be compatable with SATA and can operate SATA drives.

But IBM is still in the deciding stage of wheater or not to produce a solid state technology and if it gets the go ahead an inside source at IBM says we may see It in 2007 or 2008. Feburary 2005 issue of CPU Magazene.
http://www.lsilogic.com/technologies/in...y_standards/sas_pages/sas_vs_sata.html
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ribbon13
I'm sure M-Sys will produce SAS SSDs if IBM doesn't
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Msystems produces flash ram, IBM's tech is based on something entirely new and has a density of 1TB/mm². That is higher than ANYTHING produced today including RAM, HDD's, SSD's etc. This type of storage is on the near atomic level.

If I made any mistakes here please correct me. THanks.:)
 
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ribbon13

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Since you were talking about SAS, and then solid state, one would assume you were talking about SSDs.

I hope IBM puts out a SAS SSD with it. If they can stay under $20,000 for 100gb disk and keep >50MBps sustained with more than 5 million writes, they would leave M-Sys in the dust.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ribbon13
Since you were talking about SAS, and then solid state, one would assume you were talking about SSDs.

I hope IBM puts out a SAS SSD with it. If they can stay under $20,000 for 100gb disk and keep >50MBps sustained with more than 5 million writes, they would leave M-Sys in the dust.
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Well, no not really. I was just pointing out in response to you earlier comment on 15k sas Drives, that if IBM's plan goes in to action I would render that 15k Seagate SAS you were dreaming of virtually useless. IBM's new technology is supost to be cheap enough to replace IDE. But only time will tell.
 
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GnomeCop

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Aren't the seagate Savvio drives sas? I forget, exactly, I thought they were already using serial attached scsi interface.
What remains to be seen is the price of the controllers, but the price of the drives so far have been pretty nasty. Just try to buy a savvio, the prices are pretty shocking. It will be awhile before having sas in your home system will be "bragging rights" rather than just showing to have "more money than sense."
Hopefully something will happen where they will be able to bring down the cost of ownership A LOT because that needs to happen bad if its gonna have a future on the desktop anytime soon.
 
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Originally posted by: Googer
Msystems produces flash ram, IBM's tech is based on something entirely new and has a density of 1TB/mm². That is higher than ANYTHING produced today including RAM, HDD's, SSD's etc. This type of storage is on the near atomic level.

If I made any mistakes here please correct me. THanks.:)
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Holographic sugar cubes again? Well, at least media prices won't be too high, and if you ever need some sugar for your coffee, you can always use one of the the older "backup tapes" when no-one is looking. ;)
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Googer
Msystems produces flash ram, IBM's tech is based on something entirely new and has a density of 1TB/mm². That is higher than ANYTHING produced today including RAM, HDD's, SSD's etc. This type of storage is on the near atomic level.

If I made any mistakes here please correct me. THanks.:)
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Holographic sugar cubes again? Well, at least media prices won't be too high, and if you ever need some sugar for your coffee, you can always use one of the the older "backup tapes" when no-one is looking. ;)
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Larry you are a cool dude and I like you, but what the H e-doubble L do you mean by that?
 
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Googer
Msystems produces flash ram, IBM's tech is based on something entirely new and has a density of 1TB/mm². That is higher than ANYTHING produced today including RAM, HDD's, SSD's etc. This type of storage is on the near atomic level.

If I made any mistakes here please correct me. THanks.:)
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Holographic sugar cubes again? Well, at least media prices won't be too high, and if you ever need some sugar for your coffee, you can always use one of the the older "backup tapes" when no-one is looking. ;)
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Larry you are a cool dude and I like you, but what the H e-doubble L do you mean by that?
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LOL. Check out this link. A common theme in holographic storage include "sugar cube" and "1TB". Guess that must have triggered my recollection. I assumed that was the sort of thing that you meant. (Google for "holographic storage sugar cube", there's plenty more links.)
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Googer
LOL. Check out this <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://

Is this what you meant?

[L=http://www.hut.fi/~mrontu/holographicstorage.html]http://www.hut.fi/~mrontu/holographicstorage.html">link]http://. <h"></blockquote>

That's a dead link Larry![/Q</a>
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Pariah

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SAS offers even less worthwhile vs P-SCSI than SATA did vs P-ATA. For the home user, there's no reason whatsoever to be interested in SAS unless you are obsessed with thin cables. Can you name one new feature of SAS that's worth being interested in? Don't tell me connecting SATA II drives to same controller either, since who cares? Would more people be using P-SCSI if you could connect P-ATA drives to SCSI controllers? No, since we all get free SATA/PATA controllers on our motherboards.
 
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ribbon13

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The moment 15krpm drives come out in either SATA/SAS or maybe even combo (supports both natively ie. not through SAS's SATA layer) I'll be a happy camper.
 
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sigpop

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right, its almost like who cares unless its price competitive with the alternatives and it gets integrated into mainstream mobos.
 
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