Poll: Question for Those Opposed to the Tax Cuts...

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: rbV5

They are spending exactly as much as before ... except

* War on Terror expeditures
* War on Iraqi Regime expeditures
* Occupation costs in Afghanistan, Iraq...beyond.
* New Homeland security Dept
* Bail out Airlines part 1
* AIDS aid to Africa and abroad

These are all "new" (some consolidation for homeland security however and offset costs from gained oil revenue for rebuilding Iraq), huge ticket items in addition to our already huge budget just off the top of my head.

Agreed. My comments were limited to the tax cut package, not overall government spending which has spiraled out of control under the current Congress and administration.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: rbV5

They are spending exactly as much as before ... except

* War on Terror expeditures
* War on Iraqi Regime expeditures
* Occupation costs in Afghanistan, Iraq...beyond.
* New Homeland security Dept
* Bail out Airlines part 1
* AIDS aid to Africa and abroad

These are all "new" (some consolidation for homeland security however and offset costs from gained oil revenue for rebuilding Iraq), huge ticket items in addition to our already huge budget just off the top of my head.

Agreed. My comments were limited to the tax cut package, not overall government spending which has spiraled out of control under the current Congress and administration.

Actually it has been spiraling out of control for about the past 20+ years. Granted the 350B defecit is a record number, but after it is adjusted for inflation and size of GDP, it is no longer a record.

 

[gordy]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

1. We give full tax credit for every dime that corporations spend on employee health care. We even allow them to deduct the cost of keeping laid off employees on the books. Maybe it will increase competition among insurance companies and costs will be lowered. Maybe companies will fund 100% of health care and put more money in everyones pocket. Pick it apart.

Diabetes, $20 billion, 10 million people
Hypertension (high blood pressure), $18 billion, 27 million people
Stroke-related conditions, $16 billion, 2 million people
Osteoarthritis, $16 billion, 16 million people
Pneumonia, $16 billion, 4 million people
Back problems, $13 billion, 13 million people
Kidney disease, $10 billion, 2 million people
Endocrine disorders, $10 billion, 18 million people
Skin disorders, $9 billion, 20 million people
Infectious diseases, $6 billion, 16 million people


Any reform which fails to address the role such entities play in healthcare inflation or adequacy of coverage is doomed to fail as a long term solution.

Proper diet and exercise could change some of those in bold, but it will not keep the last 2-3 years of ones life from being the most medically expensive period in ones life.

additional reforms to help defray healthcosts:

moderate drinking,
no smoking,
no drug use,
and most of all quit FVCKING (unplanned pregnancies,alternative lifestyle, disease, etc..)

oh wait... nevermind, my Democrat decoder ring says otherwise... well maybe the smoking thing

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: rbV5

They are spending exactly as much as before ... except

* War on Terror expeditures
* War on Iraqi Regime expeditures
* Occupation costs in Afghanistan, Iraq...beyond.
* New Homeland security Dept
* Bail out Airlines part 1
* AIDS aid to Africa and abroad

These are all "new" (some consolidation for homeland security however and offset costs from gained oil revenue for rebuilding Iraq), huge ticket items in addition to our already huge budget just off the top of my head.

Agreed. My comments were limited to the tax cut package, not overall government spending which has spiraled out of control under the current Congress and administration.

Actually it has been spiraling out of control for about the past 20+ years. Granted the 350B defecit is a record number, but after it is adjusted for inflation and size of GDP, it is no longer a record.

Not only that, but the amount of existing program funding is, in most cases, increasing many, many times the rate of inflation. That alone makes the war spending look like a drop in the bucket.

The funny thing? Most often when one party or another cries about the other party "cutting funding" for a particular program... they are, in reality, just lowering the amount of INCREASE in funding.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: rbV5

They are spending exactly as much as before ... except

* War on Terror expeditures
* War on Iraqi Regime expeditures
* Occupation costs in Afghanistan, Iraq...beyond.
* New Homeland security Dept
* Bail out Airlines part 1
* AIDS aid to Africa and abroad

These are all "new" (some consolidation for homeland security however and offset costs from gained oil revenue for rebuilding Iraq), huge ticket items in addition to our already huge budget just off the top of my head.

Agreed. My comments were limited to the tax cut package, not overall government spending which has spiraled out of control under the current Congress and administration.

Actually it has been spiraling out of control for about the past 20+ years. Granted the 350B defecit is a record number, but after it is adjusted for inflation and size of GDP, it is no longer a record.

Yet. The deficit is projected to reach $1 trillion. Not coincidentally, Congress just raised the debt ceiling to that amount.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Amused
Will you send your tax savings back?

Help me calculate how much taxes I should pay.