Poll: Question for Those Opposed to the Tax Cuts...

[Amused]

Will you send your tax savings back?

 

[tnitsuj]

That's an unfair question. No one is going to give money out of the goodness of thier hearts. That has nothing to do with whether or not the tax cut is wise.

Why don't we make taxes voluntary and see how far that gets us?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
That's an unfair question. No one is going to give money out of the goodness of thier hearts. That has nothing to do with whether or not the tax cut is wise.

Why don't we make taxes voluntary and see how far that gets us?

So you oppose the tax cut, but you don't have the courage of your convictions? This isn't a kindness issue. It's a political issue. If you feel the government knows better how to spend your money, send it back. If not, keep it. If you think taxes should be higher, send it back. If not, keep it.

Or is it something else? Is it that you think the government knows how to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money better than they do?

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Amused

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

Amen.

CkG

 

[Gage8]

Originally posted by: Amused

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

he has a point

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj


Why don't we make taxes voluntary and see how far that gets us?

tnitsuj (Justin?) that's the best idea you've had so far.

 

[rbV5]

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

Any person who DOESN'T think the government knows how to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money better than they do and yet continues to keep sending them money anyway..Is a hypocrite and has a lack of courage of their convictions.

Doesn't seem to pass my logic test, the real world really isn't so black and white to a real person.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

Any person who DOESN'T think the government knows how to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money better than they do and yet continues to keep sending them money anyway..Is a hypocrite and has a lack of courage of their convictions.

Doesn't seem to pass my logic test, the real world really isn't so black and white to a real person.

But it IS black and white here. Either you do, or you don't think the government handles your money better than you do.

As for disagreeing with how the government spends money and still sending them tax money as required by law... that's not hypocritical. That's called staying out of jail.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

Any person who DOESN'T think the government knows how to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money better than they do and yet continues to keep sending them money anyway..Is a hypocrite and has a lack of courage of their convictions.

Doesn't seem to pass my logic test, the real world really isn't so black and white to a real person.

I was unaware that I had a choice. Taxes are not voluntary.

 

[rbV5]

But it IS black and white here. Either you do, or you don't think the government handles your money better than you do

I guess I'm more complex than that. I don't think the government knows how to handle my money better than me, and yet at the same time, I think the tax cut may very well be fiscally inappropriate.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: rbV5

But it IS black and white here. Either you do, or you don't think the government handles your money better than you do

I guess I'm more complex than that. I don't think the government knows how to handle my money better than me, and yet at the same time, I think the tax cut may very well be fiscally inappropriate.

Instead of opposing a tax cut, why not be as adamant about spending cuts?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Instead of opposing a tax cut, why not be as adamant about spending cuts?

Considering the state of the federal budget . . . why not be adamant about both? I think the biggest hypocrites are those who will gleefully spend their "tax cut" knowing full well it's being funded by future hardships for either taxpayers or recipient's of federal support (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Lockheed Martin . . . Actually forget the - or - there's very little doubt that future generations will pay more and get less from the government.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Instead of opposing a tax cut, why not be as adamant about spending cuts?

Considering the state of the federal budget . . . why not be adamant about both? I think the biggest hypocrites are those who will gleefully spend their "tax cut" knowing full well it's being funded by future hardships for either taxpayers or recipient's of federal support (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Lockheed Martin . . . Actually forget the - or - there's very little doubt that future generations will pay more and get less from the government.

Exactly the reason we need to curb spending NOW!

CkG

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: rbV5

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

Any person who DOESN'T think the government knows how to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money better than they do and yet continues to keep sending them money anyway..Is a hypocrite and has a lack of courage of their convictions.

Doesn't seem to pass my logic test, the real world really isn't so black and white to a real person.

But it IS black and white here. Either you do, or you don't think the government handles your money better than you do.

As for disagreeing with how the government spends money and still sending them tax money as required by law... that's not hypocritical. That's called staying out of jail.

So that's where there where your courage of conviction runs out?

Don't be a hypocrit, refuse to pay any taxes!

Of course you'll have to put some blinders on to the insanity of supporting running up the deficit and cutting tax revenue but I'm sure you have some around.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: tnitsuj


Why don't we make taxes voluntary and see how far that gets us?

tnitsuj (Justin?) that's the best idea you've had so far.

Have to admit it worked really really well for 150 years. Wanted war? sell war bonds. Not enough support, ie, no one is buying? No war.

I do wonder if the middle class would have ever existed to the same extent w/o the redistrubution seen from the 30's on though. I mean little protections were granted to the "smaller" businessman to insure compitition and much was bought by Rockerfellers, Carnegies, Vanderbilts etc.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Exactly the reason we need to curb spending NOW!

And what politician (or party) is making that happen?

 

[Piano Man]

I'm opposed to tax cuts and I won't be sending it back. Instead I'll probably have to use it buying teaching supplies from my own pocket book since the schools were already in deep sh!t before this cut.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Piano Man
I'm opposed to tax cuts and I won't be sending it back. Instead I'll probably have to use it buying teaching supplies from my own pocket book since the schools were already in deep sh!t before this cut.

Public schools are supposed to be, and are primarily supported by local and state property taxes. The feds shouldn't be involved at all.

 

[Ferocious]

Non sequitur really.

Since I aint rich and will hardly get anything back.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: rbV5

Any person who believes the tax cuts were wrong that does not send their's back is a hypocrite.

Any person who DOESN'T think the government knows how to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S money better than they do and yet continues to keep sending them money anyway..Is a hypocrite and has a lack of courage of their convictions.

Doesn't seem to pass my logic test, the real world really isn't so black and white to a real person.

But it IS black and white here. Either you do, or you don't think the government handles your money better than you do.

As for disagreeing with how the government spends money and still sending them tax money as required by law... that's not hypocritical. That's called staying out of jail.

So that's where there where your courage of conviction runs out?

Don't be a hypocrit, refuse to pay any taxes!

Of course you'll have to put some blinders on to the insanity of supporting running up the deficit and cutting tax revenue but I'm sure you have some around.

Where does it stop? If I keep paying in more and more, they'll keep speding more and more. You forget, there never WAS a surpluss, only a projected surpluss. At any rate, why should I keep paying in more and more if they can't control their spending? When faced with a pay cut, I minimize expenditures. I do not keep going deeper into debt.

This is not the tax payer's fault.

And yes, the courage of my convitions does stop when it comes to giving up my freedom, and being unable to support the ones I love. But why does it stop when people can simply refuse the tax cut???

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

Exactly the reason we need to curb spending NOW!

And what politician (or party) is making that happen?

None The last time there was "sweeping" reform was from the '94 Freshman.

CkG

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Ferocious
Non sequitur really.

Since I aint rich and will hardly get anything back.

Because you're hardly paying anything. Percentage wise, you're probably getting the most back.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Amused

Where does it stop? If I keep paying in more and more, they'll keep speding more and more. You forget, there never WAS a surpluss, only a projected surpluss. At any rate, why should I keep paying in more and more if they can't control their spending? When faced with a pay cut, I minimize expenditures. I do not keep going deeper into debt.

This is not the tax payer's fault.

It's not the taxpayers fault? It's the fault of whoever voted to put this idiot in office.

You're right though, spending should be cut dramarically. Starting with bogus wars.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Amused

Where does it stop? If I keep paying in more and more, they'll keep speding more and more. You forget, there never WAS a surpluss, only a projected surpluss. At any rate, why should I keep paying in more and more if they can't control their spending? When faced with a pay cut, I minimize expenditures. I do not keep going deeper into debt.

This is not the tax payer's fault.

It's not the taxpayers fault? It's the fault of whoever voted to put this idiot in office.

You're right though, spending should be cut dramarically. Starting with bogus wars.

Correction: Idiots.

If you think the war is alone in sending spending over the top, you're sorely mistaken. If you think Bush is responsible for the current economic situation, you are completely ignorant of recent history.

At any rate, I'd hardly call this war "bogus."

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Piano Man
I'm opposed to tax cuts and I won't be sending it back. Instead I'll probably have to use it buying teaching supplies from my own pocket book since the schools were already in deep sh!t before this cut.

I am glad you found a good way to spend those dollars that would have otherwise likely been wasted by the fed.