[poll] 'Negro' as an option on a form

is it offensive?

  • yes

  • no

  • indifferent


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SandEagle

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www.cnn.com/2014/01/11/us/new-york-juror-form-negro/

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Yes, I identify as black or African-American, but I am not a Negro," said a 25-year-old teacher from New York City.

i am not sure what to think of this. does she know what Negro means? it is spanish for black. Negro Americano. black american. i guess we should remove Indian from the form too. its offensive to me. what do you think?
 

rudeguy

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Dec 27, 2001
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file me under "don't give a fuck"

People look for reasons to be offended and then make a huge deal out of it. Its 2014, stop being so damn sensitive
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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No one asked her what she "identified as". She was given a term anyone literate would understand. She should fuck off, and put her "outrage" to better use on a real problem somewhere...
 

feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Did it suddenly become 1964 in here?


Who had the incredibly bad judgement to use that term?

As a black person, she has every right to be offended.

Jesus wept!
 

HeXen

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Dec 13, 2009
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Oversensitive and ignorant is what that 25 yr old teacher is. He got his N words mixed up.
Perhaps he isn't black, maybe his skin is butter milk almond chocolate color and black skinned people offend him?
That means we can't call white people Blanco cause it's 2014. Mexican's must be a very offensive talking race.
 

boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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She should be offended that the information was requested at all. If we're ever going to move beyond all this shit we need to quit compartmentalizing people.

Or, she could just have put some deeper thought into her observation below. But obviously, her psyche was better served by contacting CNN.

When Roberson looked around, no one else in the room was apparently concerned by this, she told CNN on Friday.
 

SandEagle

Lifer
Aug 4, 2007
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She should be offended that the information was requested at all. If we're ever going to move beyond all this shit we need to quit compartmentalizing people.

Or, she could just have put some deeper thought into her observation below. But obviously, her psyche was better served by contacting CNN.

well stated. wait, am i in the right place? wtf dude.
 

Pardus

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Jun 29, 2000
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Every race on this planet has a variety of offensive terms describing them. Whomever devised that jury duty form should eliminate race as a category, has nothing to do with selecting a juror.
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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While I'm not personally offended by this I can easily understand how others very likely would be.
 

nehalem256

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Apr 13, 2012
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"Yes, I identify as black or African-American, but I am not a Negro," said a 25-year-old teacher from New York City.

Her whole phrasing is weird and seems exactly consistent with what an overly offendable person would say.. Can a person with pure Scandinavian "identify" as black?

EDIT:
"Negro" superseded "colored" as the most polite terminology, at a time when "black" was more offensive.[3] This usage was accepted as normal, even by people classified as Negroes, until the later Civil Rights movement in the late 1960s. One well-known example is the identification by Martin Luther King, Jr. of his own race as 'Negro' in his famous 1963 speech I Have a Dream.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

Is the I have a dream speech racist? ;)

The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American" because some older black Americans still self-identify with the term

Are older black Americans racist?
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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Negro is just spanish for black, and in typical American fashion we need to include spanish on forms
 

Murloc

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Jun 24, 2008
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I voted offensive because it's stupid.

If you're going to list Korean and Japanese separately instead of as "east asian" or something, you have to list african or polynesian/abo.
If it has east asian written on it, then include "black" as an option. Why use the spanish word?
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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I'll be offended as soon as the UNCF (United Negro College Fund) changes its name, or the NAACP changes its name.

Till then, it's not.
 
Feb 10, 2000
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Not offensive.

If memory serves, the word "negro" was included in the 2010 census because in a prior year, the word had been omitted, and a significant number of black people had then written in "negro" to describe their ethnicity. For at least some black people, then, this is their term of choice. I'm sure it was included in this jury questionnaire for the same reason. In any case it is not and never has been a racial slur, and I think it's silly for anyone to be offended by it.

I don't want to be inconsiderate, and I will call people whatever they want to be called. I find it bizarre, though, that African Americans, in particular, have gone through so many iterations of the politically correct term for their ethnicity, even during my lifetime, and how the outmoded terms then become "offensive."
 
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AMCRambler

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Jan 23, 2001
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Every race on this planet has a variety of offensive terms describing them. Whomever devised that jury duty form should eliminate race as a category, has nothing to do with selecting a juror.

Any lawyer will disagree with you there. Race has a huge role in selecting a jury. So does financial background, what you do for a living as well as many other demographics. You've obviously never made it past the waiting room to jury selection. It's pretty interesting.
 

AMCRambler

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Not offensive.

If memory serves, the word "negro" was included in the 2010 census because in a prior year, the word had been omitted, and a significant number of black people had then written in "negro" to describe their ethnicity. For at least some black people, then, this is their term of choice. In any case it is not and never has been a racial slur, and I think it's silly for anyone to be offended by it.

I don't want to be inconsiderate, and I will call people whatever they want to be called. I find it bizarre, though, that African Americans, in particular, have gone through so many iterations of the politically correct term for their ethnicity, even during my lifetime, and how the outmoded terms then become "offensive."

Also African American was listed there as well. Some people are dark skinned but do not hail from Africa believe it or not.
 

disappoint

Lifer
Dec 7, 2009
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She should be offended that the information was requested at all. If we're ever going to move beyond all this shit we need to quit compartmentalizing people.

Or, she could just have put some deeper thought into her observation below. But obviously, her psyche was better served by contacting CNN.

I would have had such super high respect for her had she crossed everything out and wrote in HUMAN.
 

Nintendesert

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What's more offensive is yet another semi-young person too ignorant of history and especially her own history so she's offended.
 

feralkid

Lifer
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Not offensive.

If memory serves, the word "negro" was included in the 2010 census because in a prior year, the word had been omitted, and a significant number of black people had then written in "negro" to describe their ethnicity. For at least some black people, then, this is their term of choice.

That's true, however It was immediately removed again because so many African Americans complained that they considered it offensive.

The fact that not every member of an ethnic or racial group finds a particular term used for them to be offensive doesn't mean it's ok to use it on the entire group.
 

nehalem256

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That's true, however It was immediately removed again because so many African Americans complained that they considered it offensive.

The fact that not every member of an ethnic or racial group finds a particular term used for them to be offensive doesn't mean it's ok to use it on the entire group.

The United States Census Bureau announced that "Negro" would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside "Black" and "African-American" because some older black Americans still self-identify with the term
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

Are you suggesting that older black Americans are racist against black people?

There is a pretty big difference between "not all members of a group being offended" and some members of the group outright identifying with a particular term.
 

Leyawiin

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Nov 11, 2008
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I find it bizarre, though, that African Americans, in particular, have gone through so many iterations of the politically correct term for their ethnicity, even during my lifetime, and how the outmoded terms then become "offensive."

I'll just stick to black - it worked for about four or five decades. One syllable that gets the point across makes more sense than seven.