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Poll: John Kerry vs George W Bush

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
And yes, I'm in support of national health care or at the bare minimum guaranteed health insurance for everybody. I'm aware of the costs...read the link in my profile if you want to go a little deeper into my opinions.

Which one? The rigs, heatware, or the FS thread? 😕

LOL, he can pay for it. I do not want to pay for the healthcare of people to lazy to get a fvckin job.
Actually we already do. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. The ones who do without are mostly Middle Class who work but can't afford quality Health Insurance.

 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
And yes, I'm in support of national health care or at the bare minimum guaranteed health insurance for everybody. I'm aware of the costs...read the link in my profile if you want to go a little deeper into my opinions.

Which one? The rigs, heatware, or the FS thread? 😕

LOL, he can pay for it. I do not want to pay for the healthcare of people to lazy to get a fvckin job.
Actually we already do. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. The ones who do without are mostly Middle Class who work but can't afford quality Health Insurance.


This is why I advocate welfare reform. I'd like to see it slashed by 90% or more. Put the money into job training programs instead. I have seen too many people in trailer parks getting drunk and smoking cigarettes while their heathen children play in the street or set things on fire while waiting for their first of the month checks
 
Bush gets my vote, mostly for foreign policy reasons. If only the Dems could produce a Truman or JFK...then I would actually consider voting for a Democrat. Alas, those days are far behind us.
 
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
And yes, I'm in support of national health care or at the bare minimum guaranteed health insurance for everybody. I'm aware of the costs...read the link in my profile if you want to go a little deeper into my opinions.

Which one? The rigs, heatware, or the FS thread? 😕

The link in my profile, not my sig. 😉

http://uweb.und.nodak.edu/~bradley.rutherford/

*smacks head into desk for mistake*

*reads paper*

*continues denting the desk with head*

Two questions (to avoid a major thread hijack, any more and I'd have to start a new thread):
How many econ classes have you taken?

and

How do you integrate
"The leftmost of this scale represents the most 'liberal' while the rightmost represents the most 'conservative.' The main focus of the left, or liberals, is liberty."
with
"The most 'extreme' leftist theory is communism."

So the form of government most extremely focused on liberty is communism?
 
Kerry, if the choice is between Bush and Kerry.

1- Silver Star
1- Bronze Star
3- Awards of the Purple Heart
Combat Action Ribbon
Navy Presidential Unit Citation
Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
National Defense Service Medal
Vietnam Service Medal
Vietnam Campaign Medal.
 
Originally posted by: fjord
Kerry, if the choice is between Bush and Kerry.

1- Silver Star
1- Bronze Star
3- Awards of the Purple Heart
Combat Action Ribbon
Navy Presidential Unit Citation
Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
National Defense Service Medal
Vietnam Service Medal
Vietnam Campaign Medal.

Those are completely negated by his actions since the war. (and the last five in that list are meaningless) Hell, if it was up to him, our soldiers would still be tooling around in Sherman Tanks.
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I am one veteran who will NOT be supporting Kerry.
 
Personally, I would never discount or negate honorable service to our country--and certainly not outstanding service, in-harms-way.

I congratulate Kerry for his stance against the Vietnam War, after returning home. Showed his ability to think critically for himself.

Unfortunately, politics is a dirty game--and all those who do well--get corrupt quickly. Big money is king.

I'm still looking for a candidate who is at-least somewhat independent of the present corrupt political system.

I'm not holding my breath.
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
And yes, I'm in support of national health care or at the bare minimum guaranteed health insurance for everybody. I'm aware of the costs...read the link in my profile if you want to go a little deeper into my opinions.

Which one? The rigs, heatware, or the FS thread? 😕

The link in my profile, not my sig. 😉

http://uweb.und.nodak.edu/~bradley.rutherford/

*smacks head into desk for mistake*

*reads paper*

*continues denting the desk with head*

Two questions (to avoid a major thread hijack, any more and I'd have to start a new thread):
How many econ classes have you taken?

and

How do you integrate
"The leftmost of this scale represents the most 'liberal' while the rightmost represents the most 'conservative.' The main focus of the left, or liberals, is liberty."
with
"The most 'extreme' leftist theory is communism."

So the form of government most extremely focused on liberty is communism?

I'll PM you my replies. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech
Originally posted by: hypersonic5
So many Bush haters...

True. But, they hate him - and they don't even know why. I'd like to see some valid reasons from the Bush-haters as to why they dislike him. At least he didn't embarrass the Presidency by getting caught with an intern in the White House. 'Nuff said.

I intensely dislike Bush. Reasons?

He either lied about Iraq's WMD or was too stupid to validate the data. Maybe if Bush spent more time reading and thinking about intelligence data instead of compaigning he would have a better idea of what was going on.

He has sacrificed a long portion of the future for a short improvement in the present via his idiotic tax cuts.

He has appointed John Asscroft AG who is definitely a threat to our personal liberty.

He is doing his best to roll back environmental laws to help his Corp. buddies ie Clean Air Act, Forestry regulations.

He has trashed the US reputation around the world via his unilateralism. Bad consequences for the future, some of which is already here, with Bush trying to bail out of the Iraq fiasco but neither the UN nor world community will help.

He has made the US a laughing stock via his horrendous (non) speaking ability.

For the record I have voted in every Presidential election since Nixon-McGovern.

If you equate what Bush has done with getting a BJ from an intern you really have a lot to learn about what is important.

Of course these probably aren't valid reasons to a Bush Hugger like you but it will be interesting to see what the voters decide come Fall.


 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
How was what Clinton did in any way damaging to this country? Bush is sending hundreds of MEN to their DEATHS, kids have lost their fathers, wives lost their husbands, and mothers and fathers have lost their sons because of Bush's irresponsible and rash attack on Iraq. Compare that to a blowjob moron.

Also, I can tell you this country was a lot better of when Clinton was president. Just look at what has happened with Bush in the oval office.

1. 9/11
2. Crap economy
3. Jobs being sent oversees
4. Useless war on Iraq and billions of dollars wasted
5. America way in debt, when we had a surplus with Clinton.

haha you CANNOT be serious....
 
of course I wasn't serious. I was merely parodying the type of accusations that Republicans make about Democrats all the time. Look obviously the President isn't responsible for half those claims, but man look what has happened since he's become president. Nothing good has happened, and our country is in worse shape today than it was before. Whether or not it is his fault is irrelevant, he's not producing results and that's why he's going to lose this election. There is a lot of hate towards the bush campaign, and it's gaining momentum for each liie that the Bush administration makes. I don't see how they can recover from the Iraq blunder, that pretty much drove the nail in the coffin.
 
Late to the party but heck!

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5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (69%) Click here for info
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US Representative Dennis J. Kucinich, a Democrat of Ohio According to his web site, he is a "leader of the Progressive Caucus of the congressional Democrats who combines a powerful activism with a spiritual sense of the essential interconnectedness of all living things. His holistic worldview carries with it a passionate commitment to public service, peace, human rights, workers rights, and the environment. His advocacy of a Department of Peace seeks not only to make nonviolence an organizing principle in our society, but to make war archaic. His is a powerful, ethical voice for nuclear disarmament, preservation of the ABM treaty, banning weapons in outer space, and a halt to the development of a 'Star Wars' - type missile defense technology...Kucinich was born in Cleveland, Ohio on October 8, 1946. He is the eldest of 7 children of Frank and Virginia Kucinich. He and he family lived in twenty-one places, including a couple of cars, by the time Kucinich was 17 years old."


Akaz
 
Originally posted by: Akaz1976
Late to the party but heck!

Your Results:

1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
2. Kucinich, Rep. Dennis, OH - Democrat (77%) Click here for info
3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (74%) Click here for info
4. Sharpton, Reverend Al - Democrat (73%) Click here for info
5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (69%) Click here for info
6. Bush, President George W. - Republican (19%) Click here for info

US Representative Dennis J. Kucinich, a Democrat of Ohio According to his web site, he is a "leader of the Progressive Caucus of the congressional Democrats who combines a powerful activism with a spiritual sense of the essential interconnectedness of all living things. His holistic worldview carries with it a passionate commitment to public service, peace, human rights, workers rights, and the environment. His advocacy of a Department of Peace seeks not only to make nonviolence an organizing principle in our society, but to make war archaic. His is a powerful, ethical voice for nuclear disarmament, preservation of the ABM treaty, banning weapons in outer space, and a halt to the development of a 'Star Wars' - type missile defense technology...Kucinich was born in Cleveland, Ohio on October 8, 1946. He is the eldest of 7 children of Frank and Virginia Kucinich. He and he family lived in twenty-one places, including a couple of cars, by the time Kucinich was 17 years old."


Akaz

He's got some good ideas, so it's too bad that he's completely insane. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
And yes, I'm in support of national health care or at the bare minimum guaranteed health insurance for everybody. I'm aware of the costs...read the link in my profile if you want to go a little deeper into my opinions.

Which one? The rigs, heatware, or the FS thread? 😕

LOL, he can pay for it. I do not want to pay for the healthcare of people to lazy to get a fvckin job.
Actually we already do. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. The ones who do without are mostly Middle Class who work but can't afford quality Health Insurance.


This is why I advocate welfare reform. I'd like to see it slashed by 90% or more. Put the money into job training programs instead. I have seen too many people in trailer parks getting drunk and smoking cigarettes while their heathen children play in the street or set things on fire while waiting for their first of the month checks

We did that here in WI. The problem is that everyone starts complaining about how the welfare people are now cleaning our toilets and stuff. Or take the Michael Moore approach and follow around a guy who has to commute 1 hour on the bus to and from work.
 
1. Your ideal theoretical candidate. (100%) Click here for info
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3. Kerry, Senator John, MA - Democrat (57%) Click here for info
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5. Edwards, Senator John, NC - Democrat (54%) Click here for info
6. Lieberman, Senator Joe, CT - Democrat (51%) Click here for info
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pretty close between buch and kerry!
 
kerry is a son of a bitch that shouldn't be where he is now. he makes me fcuking sick. hell, i'd rather have edwards or kucinich over kerry. i might of even voted for the black lady (she was fcuking cool on real time with bill maher (sp?))

i don't care what you say about dean, he was and always should have been the frontrunner for the democratic ticket
 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: bradruth
And yes, I'm in support of national health care or at the bare minimum guaranteed health insurance for everybody. I'm aware of the costs...read the link in my profile if you want to go a little deeper into my opinions.

Which one? The rigs, heatware, or the FS thread? 😕

LOL, he can pay for it. I do not want to pay for the healthcare of people to lazy to get a fvckin job.
Actually we already do. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. The ones who do without are mostly Middle Class who work but can't afford quality Health Insurance.


This is why I advocate welfare reform. I'd like to see it slashed by 90% or more. Put the money into job training programs instead. I have seen too many people in trailer parks getting drunk and smoking cigarettes while their heathen children play in the street or set things on fire while waiting for their first of the month checks

We did that here in WI. The problem is that everyone starts complaining about how the welfare people are now cleaning our toilets and stuff. Or take the Michael Moore approach and follow around a guy who has to commute 1 hour on the bus to and from work.

Why are they complaining? Hell, I'd be leaving them little presents. Michael Moore has got to be the most obnoxious SOB that has ever breathed on this planet. If we were the last two people on this planet, I'd have a real dilemna on not spending my remaining years as the last man on earth.
 
Just looking at your postings I come to the conclusion that you are a comlete a55 face. The overwhelming majority of Americans vote that way. No one has enough information on all candidates for whom they vote. You are just an elitist a55f!ck who is angry that people aren't voting for the nimrod with the 1280 SAT who went AWOL. Get a grip dude you are ignorant. If you took a class or studied up on electoral behavior you would see that most Americans pull a lever for a party, the majority of people only know about the top 1 or 2 candidates due to name recognition or some crummy commercial on TV. Sheesh and you think you are quite the intellectual, LOL what an imbecile.:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: seriousbro
Just looking at your postings I come to the conclusion that you are a comlete a55 face. The overwhelming majority of Americans vote that way. No one has enough information on all candidates for whom they vote. You are just an elitist a55f!ck who is angry that people aren't voting for the nimrod with the 1280 SAT who went AWOL. Get a grip dude you are ignorant. If you took a class or studied up on electoral behavior you would see that most Americans pull a lever for a party, the majority of people only know about the top 1 or 2 candidates due to name recognition or some crummy commercial on TV. Sheesh and you think you are quite the intellectual, LOL what an imbecile.:disgust:

Typically, it's nice to address someone you are insulting rather than letting everyone in the thread think they are the target...but you'd have known that if you weren't such a nube.

:evil:
 
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